Odey Posted November 14, 2012 Muqdisho (RBC Radio) Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud oo maanta warbaahinta kula hadlay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa wuxuu ka hadlay qorshihiisa ku aadan Jubooyinka. Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud wuxuu sheegay in loo baahanyahay in maamul leesku raacsanyahay loo sameeyo gobalada Jubooyinka oo haatan deegaano ka mid ah laga saaray Al-Shabaab. Madaxweynuhu wuxuu sheegay in maamulka loo samaynayo gobladaan uu yahay mid ka imaanaya shacabka daga deegaanadaan isla markaana ay raali ku yihiin. Wuxuu sheegay in dowlada Soomaaliya mar walba ay ka soo horjeedo wax walba oo keeni kara in ay colaad ka dhacdo deegaanada gobalada Jubooyinka taasi oo salka ku haysa maamul u samaynta. Sidoo kale wuxuu intaasi uu ku sii daray hadalkiisa Madaxweynuhu in shacanbka ka soo jeeda gobaladaasi iyo waliba siyaasiyiinta looga baahanyahay in ay ka fimiraan aayaha gobaladaan. Xasan Sheekh wuxuu sidoo kale uu sheegay in xiligaan ay socdaan wadahadalo lagu dhamaynayo wax walba oo qilaaf ah oo horay u jiray isla markaana looga tashanayo mushataqbalka gobnaladaan. Dhowaan ayay ahayd markii wafdi ka socday dowlada Soomaaliya iyo waliba AMISOM laga soo celiyay magaalada Kismaayo kuwaasi oo ay u diideen in ay gudaha u galaan magaaladaasi masuuliyiinta ururka Raskambooni. RBC Radio Xafiiska Wararka Muqdisho http://www.raxanreeb.com/2012/11/madaxweynaha-soomaaliya-xasan-sheekh-maxamuud-oo-ka-hadlay-arimaha-maamul-u-samaynta-jubooyinka/ This is the position the President should have taken in the first place. Finally we are moving in the right direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted November 14, 2012 it is too late for his silly flipfloping to have any impact now. Juba has moved on. he has shown the somali people his true clannist colors. it is interesting because nairobi talk is that qoslaye was ordered by the powers that be not to sabotage the peace building process that is underway in Jubba regions or else he and his goverment will be a toast very soon. he had no choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odey Posted November 14, 2012 Mooge;888934 wrote: it is too late for his silly flipfloping to have any impact now. Juba has moved on. he has shown the somali people his true clannist colors. it is interesting because nairobi talk is that qoslaye was ordered by the powers that be not to sabotage the peace building process that is underway in Jubba regions or else he and his goverment will be a toast very soon. he had no choice. That maybe so, but do we need to add fuel to the fire?. Let us hope it works for the betterment of the Nation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 Wasn't that his approach all the time that he supports a federal state in those regions for the people by the people he was just against the Kenyan interference in his local domestic issues. Yes to a federal state in Kismayo no to an autonomous state is the message coming from Xamar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted November 14, 2012 XX: You read between the lines. The president has tweaked a bit for his previous stand with regards to Jubaland. For the better, I may add. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted November 14, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;888942 wrote: Wasn't that his approach all the time that he supports a federal state in those regions for the people by the people he was just against the Kenyan interference in his local domestic issues. Yes to a federal state in Kismayo no to an autonomous state is the message coming from Xamar. Bingo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 14, 2012 Autonomous regions are for the big players, the big dawgs, the gentlemen of the region, federal are for small puppies, do you agree Xaaji, federal states are for the small puppies? But I am glad Puntland is a federal state leading by example, mashallah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 Taleexi;888944 wrote: XX: You read between the lines. The president has tweaked a bit for his previous stand with regards to Jubaland. For the better, I may add. Not really he hardly talked about Kismayo the only time he mentioned Kismayo was when he was in Hiiraan. This was his policy all the time and we should support the president in his decision to include the people of Kismayo in the state making of their region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 Somalia;888946 wrote: Autonomous regions are for the big players, the big dawgs, the gentlemen of the region, federal are for small puppies, do you agree Xaaji, federal states are for the small puppies? But I am glad Puntland is a federal state leading by example, mashallah. Federalism is an experiment we shall see how it goes when the constitution is approved by the people of Somalia on a referendum in a few years time. In the mean time people can start state building at sub regional level while the government is involved. But the era of autonomous states is fading away in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted November 14, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;888948 wrote: Not really he hardly talked about Kismayo the only time he mentioned Kismayo was when he was in Hiiraan. This was his policy all the time and we should support the president in his decision to include the people of Kismayo in the state making of their region. - Waad indha adagtahay saaxiib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 Waan indha furanahay eeh adigu goormaad madaxweynaha ku kacday? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odey Posted November 14, 2012 FYI; He wasnt supportive of this position. His initial position was one of "I will form the administration for Jubbaland .....not the locals He has changed his stance somewhat in a way that is now conducive to further talks and progress in the formation of the new state. The difference now is that the Government will be having a role of Overseear as the constitution demands and the locl people will form the administration to their liking. The other point is that these federal states are all Semi autonomous and this applies throughout the 18 provinces of the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 An administration he appointed or an administration that is allied to his government and his security forces control is the same oday politics is all about the end goal people just take different routes. And for ur information the security forces of Somalia will all be in charge of the security of the country as the constitutions says. The federal states will just have more to say in their local affairs. But there wont any be semi autonomous states like you see them in Puntland and Galmudug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 14, 2012 Peace is always the way forward i always support that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted November 14, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;888942 wrote: Wasn't that his approach all the time that he supports a federal state in those regions for the people by the people he was just against the Kenyan interference in his local domestic issues. Yes to a federal state in Kismayo no to an autonomous state is the message coming from Xamar. And all this time you are arguing for the side of the president yet you were not aware of what his position was? If you thought he was opposing it because Kismaayo wanted to be autonomous state, you don't know what you are talking about. The conflict was not about "autonomous state" and was not about "Kenyan interference in his local domestic issues" President Hassan position was since he's the head of the federal government, he had the sole responsibility to create the admin in the region, not the locals people. So Muqdisho was going to plan and set up the admin in Kismaayo. This was the conflict, not about anyone being autonomous or Kenya taking away dhul or bad Soomaaliyeed. The locals did not refuse his participation or the role the feds will play in their self-determination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites