Common Sense Prevails

[Abwaan]

Mooge;888934 wrote:

it is too late for his silly flipfloping to have any impact now. Juba has moved on. he has shown the somali people his true clannist colors.

 

it is interesting because nairobi talk is that qoslaye was ordered by the powers that be not to sabotage the peace building process that is underway in Jubba regions or else he and his goverment will be a toast very soon. he had no choice.

It is funny that Mooge has been away for the last few days and came back when the president spoke....:DIt just doesn't add up. Calaashaan magac kale ayaa lagu qaraabanaayey oo wax lagu maagaayey haye?

[Odey]

Xaaji Xunjuf;888980 wrote:

An administration he appointed or an administration that is allied to his government and his security forces control is the same oday politics is all about the end goal people just take different routes.

 

And for ur information the security forces of Somalia will all be in charge of the security of the country as the constitutions says. The federal states will just have more to say in their local affairs. But there wont any be semi autonomous states like you see them in Puntland and Galmudug.

You have your facts wrong. The appointment he makes irrespective of whether they are alligned to him or not are still under his jurisdiction as the nation's President.The difference here is whether it will have the support of the locals or not. That support can only come if the locals are the ones that formed it. They arent seceeding from the union, just asking for their constitutional right to form their own local Federal state and look after their local affairs.

 

The Somali National forces are and will always be responsible for the security and sovereignty of our nation. The federal security personnel are Under the national Leader i.e the President and commander in chief even though they are specifically only going to work within the state they are serving under.. I never said anything regarding the security, just responding to your comment thats is all.

 

As for the Federal states they are Semi Autonomous and in charge of their internal security, affairs as you put it hence the Semi Autonomous bit?. Autonomous states have the option of seceeding from the union....something that no somali state will have under the constitution. Puntland, Somaliland, Galmudug are all Semi Autonomous states.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Not really arguing on his side when people have different thoughts u have to make some kind of compromise Jacper ofcourse it matters whathe says but what he said was allowing the people of those regions to come together and a built a state. He was only worried about the Kenyan interference and that's his good right since he is the one who is responsible for Somalia. For Kenya it matters that it becomes an autonomous state linked to Nairobi more than its linked to Mogadisho. For the people of Kismayo they just want their local affairs in their hands nothing wrong with that either.

 

Oday Somalia is not a normal country and it doesn't function as a normal country there are lots of complicity the constitution is a nice piece of paper but to put into practice is a whole different story. The federal government has limited control over the country it needs to be strengthened so that it can enforce its rule of law on their territorial sovereignty, and so that it can protect its sovereignty from external factors in this case Kenya and Ethiopia. The federal states will come under the jurisdiction of the federal government and the federal states will have their own strong police forces and institutions that's how federalism really works. The conflict in Somalia rises when ever a region tries to be more autonomous and showing its back to the federal government something the federal government doesn't want to see in Kismayo that's all.

[Odey]

Xaaji Xunjuf;889001 wrote:

Not really arguing on his side when people have different thoughts u have to make some kind of compromise Jacper ofcourse it matters whathe says but what he said was allowing the people of those regions to come together and a built a state. He was only worried about the Kenyan interference and that's his good right since he is the one who is responsible for Somalia. For Kenya it matters that it becomes an autonomous state linked to Nairobi more than its linked to Mogadisho. For the people of Kismayo they just want their local affairs in their hands nothing wrong with that either.

 

Oday Somalia is not a normal country and it doesn't function as a normal country there are lots of complicity the constitution is a nice piece of paper but to put into practice is a whole different story. The federal government has limited control over the country it needs to be strengthened so that it can enforce its rule of law on their territorial sovereignty, and so that it can protect its sovereignty from external factors in this case Kenya and Ethiopia. The federal states will come under the jurisdiction of the federal government and the federal states will have their own strong police forces and institutions that's how federalism really works. The conflict in Somalia rises when ever a region tries to be more autonomous and showing its back to the federal government something the federal government doesn't want to see in Kismayo that's all.

This is not about kenya. Its about the Local people in the Juballand regions ad their wishes for their region. Kenya is no different than Ethioipia who are currently in the regions of Gedo, Bay and Bakool. Administrations are being formed there with the blessing of the Government. There are Djiboutian Forces in Hiiraan, yet an admin is being formed there with the government's blessing. There are Ugandan forces in Mogadishu, yet it is the seat of power. Foreign influence is neither here nor there. the only reason Kenyan influence is being trumpeted is because of the fact that there was opposition to any any admin being formed by the locals in the Jubba region. They underestimated the whole situation.

[sharma-arke451]

this ain't political section.

 

It beats logic to see xaaji xunjuf arguing for the course of somaliweyn, or the unity of somalia for that matter, and yet sees somaliland as a state oo jaar la ah somaliya, contradiction in terms.

 

P.s. what do we call the phenomena of having multiple opinions concerning a single, single event???

[Taleexi]

Abwaan;888989 wrote:

It is funny that Mooge has been away for the last few days and came back when the president spoke....:DIt just doesn't add up. Calaashaan magac kale ayaa lagu qaraabanaayey oo wax lagu maagaayey haye?

SOL ma nabadsugida bay kuu magcawday

[Abwaan]

lol@Taleexi....more like self-imposed jago...Dadka in lagu ciyaaro ayaan diidayaa..

[Haatu]

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