NGONGE Posted November 7, 2012 ^^ Bal maxa kugu kalifay, GT? Why are you making people notice that it was actually you who misled poor Xiin with your "Gaas Go Home" first post on that thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 7, 2012 lol@Ayoub Good one. I would rather deal with NGONGE , than Ayoub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted November 7, 2012 Waryaa NG, sheekadan Xiin ka wayn ee naga daaye dee. Btw, it has been rumored that he was coming back to US and continue his teaching career,rather than sit next to mudane, xillibaan, mujahid Qanyare. So no misleading there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 7, 2012 ^^ War wax fahan dee; the mockery came from the "go home" sentence which you (probably unwittingly) used and Xiin and others copied later. p.s. I still say that the Imam's only and BEST retort to Gaas's criticism about the extension is to remind him that he himself would have not become the PM of Somalia if it were not for another extension that took place in Kampala over a year ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted November 7, 2012 ^ Lets just say you are not privy to lots of inner goings, hence why you think the "go home" phrase was a reactionary to Gas' video press. You are right on the last point, but that's not how the Imam operates. He would rather sue him in court than state the obvious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 7, 2012 NGONGE, Gaas is coming back (at least that is info I have) , and it is the right thing to do. You are falling for a video clip. The only thing that is newsworthy in that clip is the fact (and I lamented this) Professor Gaas demoted himself to a local politician. Professor Gaas call for more transparency will no doubt put a pressure on Faroole , but the timing of his call and the background story that prompted him to do so makes it a bit ineffective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 7, 2012 For Ayoub: http://www.puntlandpost.com/gaasow-gaas-ha-ku-shubin-puntland-xil-xuseen-khaliif/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted November 7, 2012 xiinfaniin;886746 wrote: NGONGE, Gaas is coming back (at least that is info I have) , and it is the right thing to do. You are falling for a video clip. The only thing that is newsworthy in that clip is the fact (and I lamented this) Professor Gaas demoted himself to a local politician. Professor Gaas call for more transparency will no doubt put a pressure on Faroole , but the timing of his call and the background story that prompted him to do so makes it a bit ineffective. 1. Gaas is coming back to what? 2. What is wrong with commenting on local politics or regional administrations? 3. What background story propmted the Professor? 4. What does this have to with your call for him to return to US? Xiin, you raise more questiond then you clearify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uchi Posted November 8, 2012 I can understand the worlds interest in the US and it's internal politics, but why the obsession by resident Somaliland Solers for Puntland? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 8, 2012 xiinfaniin;886746 wrote: NGONGE, Gaas is coming back (at least that is info I have) , and it is the right thing to do. You are falling for a video clip. The only thing that is newsworthy in that clip is the fact (and I lamented this) Professor Gaas demoted himself to a local politician. Professor Gaas call for more transparency will no doubt put a pressure on Faroole , but the timing of his call and the background story that prompted him to do so makes it a bit ineffective. I'm at work, saaxib. Our firewall blocks youtube videos. The mockery that you're recieving is in the use of the word "home" when talking about someone going back to the USA. Wax fahan dee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted November 8, 2012 It's petty that some are telling men like Abdiwali to leave to countries which are not really ours. It should be the other way round given the brain drain that exist in our country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted November 8, 2012 NGONGE;886882 wrote: The mockery that you're recieving is in the use of the word "home" when talking about someone going back to the USA. Wax fahan dee. Well that was one rabbit punch I never expected to be swung even Dr. Xiinfaniin. You'd expect that from some right-wing bigot or Gaalo to play the "go home" card. NGONGE;886882 wrote: I'm at work, saaxib. Our firewall blocks youtube videos. Well bellow is the what Dr. Gaas' report says.. Xildhibaan Cabdiweli Gaas oo sheegay inay caburin xaga dadka ah ka jirto Puntland. Posted by admin Raisalwasaarihii hore ee Soomaaliya Cabdiweli Maxamed Cali Gaas ayaa markii ugu horeysay ka hadlay xaaladaha ka jira deegaanada maamulka Puntland tan iyo markii uu u socdaalay halkaas. Cabdiweli Gaas oo booqasho ku tagay deegaano badan oo katirsan maamulka Puntland ayaa waxa uu kasoo saaray war saxaafadeed safarkiisa ayada oo la xasuusto in dhawaan uu maamulka Puntland amar kusiiyay xildhibaan Gaas inuu iskaga baxo deegaanada Puntland. Hadaba war saxaafadeedka ayaa u qornaa sidan. Bismillaahi Raxmaani-Raxiim, Assalaamu Calaykum Waraxmatullahi WB. Sidaa aad la socotaan waxaan ilaa iyo 19kii bishii la soo dhaafay safaro ku marayey qaybo kamid ah Gobolada Puntland. Anigoo og in ay jiraan su’aalo badan, waxaan jeclaaday in aan dadweynaha la qaybsado warbixinta safaradaydii oo haatan gabo-gabo-ah. Waxaan la soo kulmay qaybaha kala duwan ee Bulshadda Deegaanada Gaalkacyo, Galdogob, Bursaalax, Xero-Jaalle, Bayra, Riig-O-mane, Bacaadweyne, Xarfo, Buurtinle, Jalam, Kala-Bayr, Garowe, Sunna-Jiif, Danqoronyo, Qardho, Carmo, Bosaaso, iyo qaar kale. Waxaan maanta rabaa in aan warbixin waafi ah kabixiyo socdaalka aan kor ku xusay. Waxaa ii surtoobiwayday duruufo kala duwan awgood in aan tago Gobolo iyo degmooyin kale oo ii qorshaysnaa in aan socdaalkayga ku darsado. Nasiib wanaag, waxaan la kulmay ergooyin kasocda deegaanadaas aanan gaarin. Inshallah waxaan ballaan qaadaya in aan gaaridoono Goboladaas aanan tagin markii ay fursadu ii saamaxdo. Waxaan aad ugu mahad naqayaa dadweynaha reer Puntland oo meelkastoo aan tagnay aniga iyo wafdigaya noo soo dhaweeyey si walaaltinimo leh oo ay kalkacaltooyo ku dheehantahay kana muuqato qiiro wadaninimo iyo Soomaalinimo. Waxaan socdalkayga kula kulmay qaybaha kala duwaan ee bulshada iyo xubno katirsan maamulka Puntland gaar ahaan isimadda, madax-dhaqmeedka, waxgaradka, ganacsatada, haweenka, dhallinyaradda, culumaa-u-diinka, iyo qaar kamid ah siyaasiyiinta Puntland. Haddaba, waxaan rabaa in aan dul istaago qodobo kamid ah waxyaalihii aan soo arkay iyo warbixintii ay isiiyen bulsho-weynta reer puntland ee aan kulamada la qaatay. Waxaa jiray caqabado yar yar ee aan kala kulmay safarkayga balse aan go’aansaday in aanan waxba kasoo qaadin kagana gaabsanayo in aan kudaro warbixintayda. 1. Waxay bulshoweynta aan la kulmay ii sheegen anna aan hubsaday in ay jiraan dhibaatooyin siyaasadeed, dhaqaale, iyo arrimaha bulshada. 2. Haddan ka hadlo arrimaha siyaasadda, waxay dadweynuhu ii sheegeen in ay jirto xoriyad la’aan iyo cadaadis aysan u suurtagalin in ay si xor ah ku cabiraan fikirkooda siyaasadeed iyo kooda muwadinimo. Waxay dimmuqradiyadu na faraysaa in qofka muwaadinka ah xaq u leeyahay in uu si xor ah u hadli karo, una kulmikaraan, si ay u gutaan xuquuqdooda iyo waajibaadkooda dastuuriga ah. Hase yeeshe, waxay ii sheegen in aysan maanta taas ka jirin Puntland. Saxaafada xortaahina aysan cabsi awgeed uga howlgali karin Puntland aysanna gudbin Karin xaaladda dhabta ah ee ka jirta Puntland. 3. Waxay ii sheegen in marar badan ay isku-dayeen in ay samaystaan qadooyin iyo fadhiyo ay kaga tashanayaan aayahooda balse ay cadaadis iyo caburin kala kulmeen maamulka Puntland. 4. Waxay kaloo ii sheegen inkasto ay muhiimtahay in laga qudbo nidaamka qabaliga ah loona gudbo nidaamka dimmuqraadiga ah ee xisbiyada badan, haddana in aysan kalsooni ku qabin in xukuumadda jirtaahi ay arrintaasi daacadna ka tahay fulinna karto. 5. Waxay kaloo ii sheegen in Gobolladii kumidoobay dhisitaanka Puntland 1998kii ay qaar kamid-ihi aysan gacanta ugu jirin maamulka, qaarkoodna ay samaysteen maamulo u gaar-ah. Waxay kala-furashaadaas Puntland sabab uga dhigayeen maamul xumo iyo aragti la’aanta hogaanka sare ee Puntland. 6. Waxay kaloo bulshoweyntaasi katirsanayeen maamulka caddalad daro iyo u sinnaansho la’aan khayraadka Puntland. 7. Waxay bulshoweynta Puntland si waafiya u cabireen waxqabad la’aan la xariirta *****lida baahida aasaasiga ah ee arrimaha bulshada (basic social services) sida caafimaadka, waxbarashadda, iyo biyaha. Waxaa kaloo burburay waxna aan laga qaban halbowlayaasha dhaqaale sida wadooyinka, Garoomada duulista, iyo Dekedda. Waxaa markhaati madoonta ah in wadada dheer ee laamiga ah ee isku xirta Bosaaso iyo Galkacyo iyo Dekedda Bossaso ay yihiin hantida kaliya ee laga dhaxlay dawladdi Allaha u naxariistee Marxuum Maxamed Siyaad Barre. 8. Waxay meelkastoo aan tagno dadweynuhu ku bararugsanayeen in laga shaqeeyo nabadgalyada iyo xasiloonida Puntland dibna la iskugu soo celiyo Gobolladii iyo Beelihii ku bahoobay maamulka Puntland. 9. Waxaan meel walba kula soo kulmay shacab u bisil nabad, hogaamin wanaagsan, iyo horumar dhaqaale jiritaanka Puntlandna ay si dhab-ah uga go’antahay. 10. Waxay kaloo muujiyeen si cadna u diidanaayeen muddo kororsiga xeeladaysan ee maamulka iyo Baarlamaanka xilligiisu dhammaaday. Talo soojeedin iyo u nasteexayn dawladda: 1. Waxaa ku habboon maamulka iyo baarlamaanka lagu soo doortay laguna dhaariyey in ay ugu adeegaan xilkooda afarta sanno ee labada bilood ka dhimanyihiin in ay tixgaliyaan dhawraanna rabitaanka shacbiga. Waxaan ku baraarujinayaa maamulka iyo baarlamaanka in aysan galin dalka mugdi iyo khalkhal siyaasadeed oo laga maarmikaro. Waxaa mudan in marwalba danta guud laga hormariyo danta iyo maslaxadaha khaaska ah. Talo soo jeedin ku wajahan isimadda Puntland. Isimadu waa marjaca siyaasadeed ee Puntland waxayna budhige u ahaayen una yihiin aasaaskii iyo jiritaanka Puntland. Sidaa daraadeed, waxaa waajib gaar-ahi ka saaranyahay in ay marwalba dib u eegis iyo qiimayn ku sameeyaan marxalada uu dalku marayo. Waxaan ku talinayaa in ay isugu yimaadan shir deg-deg ah oo ay ku qiimaynayaan marxalada ay Puntland maanta ku jirto si ay u gutaan waajibaadka ka saaran maslaxadda iyo horumarka Puntland. Isimaddu waxay leeyihiin dowr iyo awood dabiici-ah (moral authority) iyo kalsooni shacab ee aysan siyaasiyiintu lahayn. Waa inayna saas u fahman. Arragti guud: Waxaa waajib ah in loo qumo maslaxada guud ee Puntland lagana dheeraado waxkasta oo keeni kara khalkhal siyaasadeed. Waxa kaloo waajib ah in la adkeeyo midnimada iyo wadajirka wixii ka haray Puntland lana doono inta maqan si ay ku jirto dabacsanaan, ehelnimo, iyo daacadnimo. Dadweynaha reer Puntland waxay horseed ka ahaayen nidaam kastoo horseedikaray dimmuqraasiyad iyo rabitaan shacab waxayna ku caanbaxeen samir iyo dulqaad siyaasadeed. Sidaa daraadeed waa in la dhowraa rabitaankooda iyo sharaftooda. Waa in lala fahmaa shacabweynaha Puntland in ay xeerinayaan midnimada, xasiloonida, iyo jiritaanka Puntland. Waa in aan loo qaadan in ay raali ka yihiin sida qaawan ee mararka qaarkood loola dhaqmo. http://baidoamedia.com/xildhibaan-cabdiweli-gaas-oo-sheegay-inay-caburin-xaga-dadka-ah-ka-jirto-puntland/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 8, 2012 ^^ Oh he has to go home now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 8, 2012 NGONGE, So now we are unto semantics , the meaning of home , eh? Adeer home is where my family is, my children go to school, where I live and work. So you can see where I was going with that...but I am sure that is not what brought my Northern brothers to this post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites