Hassan Sheekhow, Concentrate on the Bigger National Priorities, Not on Kismayo.

[N.O.R.F]

xiinfaniin;886509 wrote:

^^I have accustomed biased opinion bordering a blind support from the Northern brothers toward president Hassan. I am not sure Fawziyo alone explains this trend

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Kismayo is in the hands of a rebel group, supported by AMISOM, which has been battling alshabaab for few years in the bushes of Jubbooyinka. The president's focus has been to prevent or sabotage the effort of establishing a new federal state in Kismayo, which is led by the communities living in the three regions. Perhaps you can explain to me how is that supposed to resolve the said security threat.

I haven't been keeping up. Maybe you can bring me up to speed.

 

Has the govnt/AMISOM WON the military battle for Kismaayo?

 

Has the attempted set up of a federal state in Kisamaayo been in line with the constitution?

 

ps blind support as opposed to blind opposition?

 

One prefers to give people a chance.

[NGONGE]

Oh look! The Caravan got another puncture.

 

(though I actually agree with Xiin here).

[Waranle_Warrior]

The President should concentrate on Mogadishu. That's the capital and the most important city in Somalia yet the most controversial and volatile city in the country. I was hearing the Ugandans threatened to leave few days ago. if that happens, I don't know how he's going to defend himself from the likes of M. Dhere, Qanyare, Indacade, Yalaxow from reappearing again. He needs to concentrate on Mogadishu and make a contingency plan.

 

Should he put a proper effort into fixing Mogadishu, call upon all Somalis to return to it, set up a plan dadkii quyahooda loogu celiyo, create and instill into the Somali mind that the old glory of the capital is back and sets up a just admin that encompasses of all Somali walks for Mogadishu and that of which is a shadow of a real capital, then everything else must follow suit. If he's man enough to rise to this challenge and be up to the task then neither Somaliland nor Puntland should be too big for his boots let alone other not so significant regions politically.

[Taleexi]

First and foremost, a government is a survival, political institution guided by agreed principles (Crafted by its people). Apparently, any system adapted by a group of people has its merits and drawbacks, be it socialism, federalism, capitalism and what not. By default, it is a birthright one to form/have an opinion/preference on a specific system of governance and it is quite another not to honor whatever form of governance that is in place at the time.

 

The moral of the story, President Hassan has a say with regards to the formation of Kismayo/Jubaland administration. He is the president of the Federal Somalia after all. However, his involvement should only be facilitating and assisting with what the people of those regions want inasmuch their desires are aligned with the current professional constitution and not a threat to the security of the nation. Our president/government needs to prioritize the major challenges our people and nation face, and it must play with the rules of the game and treat all regional governments of the country equally in order it builds confidence amongst our fractured communities. Having a strong central government or federal one is a matter of another day - but for now we've so called professional constitution and it calls the formation of regional states if two or more adjacent regions so agree, let the government at least to see things through the same prism of which it came to power. Down on the line, we can reconsider centralism form of governance after our people are more reconciled, have less mistrust amongst them and know more about centralism vs. federalism. Sida khayrku ku jiro waa Allaahu aclam!

[khalid abuukar maxamed]

War odayan waxaa la taliye uu ah cabdiqasim salaad boy.Xasan shiikh waa Ceydiid cusub .Damjadiid waa HAG, ilma adeerayaal feejignaada

[Carafaat]

Kismayo is a city in Somalia. Just like Muqdisho, Beletweyn and Baidoa the President has a responsibility towards all those places. Only a clan minded person like Xiinfaniin would tell the President not to interfere in Kismayo.

 

Xiinoow baryahan maradii muwaadinka waad tuurtay.

[xiinfaniin]

NGONGE muxuu yiri ?

[Haatu]

Xiin, the defender of the Grand Old Party of Tolka, what happened to your support for the government? I actually recant and support the president as of now. All other initiatives seem to be heading no where and his initiative of starting from the district level, working up to the regional level and then finally to the state level is more reasonable to me.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Haatu,

 

I support the roadmap, the framework on which Somalia came out of transition. I don't support individuals, I support approaches. Somalia is not strong enough, reconciliation not deep enough, and mistrust amongst communities not overcome yet, hence any centralist approach is not going to work. We have four years to prepare , and ratify the constitution. Kismayo is an interesting case, where clan dynamics and ideology overlap , he would be best advised to steer clear and not get in the way.

 

As of you changing sides , that is not new ...vacillation has been the mark .

[sharma-arke451]

abwaan and president hassan, are concentratres of 21st century qabileestayaal (using tribe for evil gains). It is pure tribal variable that is in play, when kismayo is mentioned.

 

digtorki wacnayoow, sow tanaad meel dhow so dhacday!!

[Taleexi]

Maxaa anshaxii meesha ku dhacay... Mee MMA?

[Abwaan]

Lol@Anshaxu waa la xirxiray inta Wiilashaani Kismaayo ka hadlayaan oo dhagxaan tuurtuurayaan ee iska daa. Bahashani Kismaayo ka weyn ee "Ma anigaa Soodaanta waddanka keenay". Xasan Sh. Muxuu Raysal-wasaare noo siin waayey oo cad weeye waxani. Shakhsiyaad Soomaaliyeed oo ay taageerayeen Qabiillo badan oo Soomaaliyeed oo dad u qalmo oo badani ku jirey baa bahashan wada raadiyey waana waayeen, waxaan la yaabay waxa Xiin, Mooge an Co ay isla waalayaan...

[xiinfaniin]

^^Mar marka qaarkood saad u joogto baad geedo isku xoqdaa. Cuqdado aad iska dhaadhicay baa malaha jiree Saacid saldanadiisa cidina kama xuma. Waxaa laga yaabaa inaad is lahayd dadbaa caroon doonaa markii Saacid madax laga dhigo. Ilaa hadda ma arag cid caraysan awoowe, beenna maaha.

 

Arrinka aan ka hadlaynaa waa ka weyn yahay jago la magacaabo, waa qadiyad muhiim u ah, dawladda cusubi ku qanacsantahay hannaanka Soomaali ku heshiisay iyo in kale. Waxaa muuqatta in guux qabali ahi jiro ee Xasan hoos ka riixaya ...

[Abwaan]

xiinfaniin;886803 wrote:

^^Mar marka qaarkood saad u joogto baad geedo isku xoqdaa. Cuqdado aad iska dhaadhicay baa malaha jiree Saacid saldanadiisa cidina kama xuma. Waxaa laga yaabaa inaad is lahayd dadbaa caroon doonaa markii Saacid madax laga dhigo. Ilaa hadda ma arag cid caraysan awoowe, beenna maaha.

 

Arrinka aan ka hadlaynaa waa ka weyn yahay jago la magacaabo, waa qadiyad muhiim u ah, dawladda cusubi ku qanacsantahay hannaanka Soomaali ku heshiisay iyo in kale. Waxaa muuqatta in guux qabali ahi jiro ee Xasan hoos ka riixaya ...

lol..Oo ma caraa kuu hartay Xiin? Waad is celin weysey oo maradii baa kaa dhacday. Cuqdad ku lehe, war waannan idinla mid noqoneyn ma ahane bahasha maba qarsanaysaan oo odayaal iyo ciyaal caytamaya intaba farahaa laga soo qaaday. Waryaa wax Soomaalinnimo lagu waayey qabiil laguma helo...Waayeel waa annagoon is yeelyeelin. Xiin anigu Xasan Sh. iyo Saacid midna ma taageereyn balse waxaan xushmaynayaa maxsuulkii ka soo baxay isbeddelkii dalka ka dhacay. Marka ama is xanaaji ama is kuud-kuud "Kor waayeel waa wada indho" Saaxiib ee cayaarta halla iska daayo.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Adeer you have no center.

 

The problem with you is that you are over the board: you are not with Hassan or Saacid, yet you are here attempting to argue with me on the question of Kismayo. You think xiinfaniin is many while in reality he is only one online persona.

 

You speak of Somalinimo while you support delegation led by Indhacadde and Goobaale . You supported the roadmap, yet after Hassan's win , you think federalism is not important. Waa wareernay awoowe

 

My argument is simple , and not at all confusing, the president needs to stay away from Kismayo just like he is with respect to Gaalkacyo. If he tries to get in the way of the Kismayo initiative, he will have squandered a great opportunity to move Somalia forward.

 

On the other hand your argument is to say xiinfaniin is qabiilist , and is against soomaalinimo