21 Ocbober 1969 - The Beginning of the End of Somalia

[oba hiloowlow]

Complicated personally speaking i was better of 1990-2010.. Anyway what people dont realise or wont realise is that the kacaan was the background of all this chaos we can see today ma garatay i never supported USC but i know what made them rebelling.

[Complicated]

Oba: Although most well off Somalis managed to escape to the west and "personally" gained from the failure of the nation (which I hope is what you were implying to) wouldn't you agree with me that most Somalis have gone through war, disease, abuse, disaster and heart-breaking poverty on a scale we have never imagined?

[oba hiloowlow]

lol thats what im meaning dee, my family has it better of now than the 80s where my father lost all his wealth in xamarweyne fire which siyaad barre refused to extinguish because it was a certain clan who had all their wealth in that suuq and he later got imprisoned by the kacaan and was jailed in 2 years and suffered torture, you understand.. Yeah they've gone trough hell im not opposing that but what im only saying is that the kacaan is the background for all shiidh somalis have seen.

[Somalia]

Anyone living north of Galguduud and Mogadishu will automatically say they are better off today.

[Complicated]

Oba: As a true patriot and promoter of all that is Somali (based on most of your recent posts) surely you should be more interested with the greater good of the nation than only what is good for your immediate family members

[Abwaan]

Obama, Somaalidu waa illowsho dhowdahay, shalay markuu joogey cabaad iyo hanna dhaafo, haddana for 21 years nin ku xukumayey xoog, oo weliba 10-kii sano ee hore wuu wanaagsanaa ee 10-kii dambe dil, xabsi iyo eex ku xukumayey intuba horseed u ahaa burburka maanta ayaa loo barooranayaa, for sure jabhaduhu Siyaad bay ceyriyeen oo isbeddelkaas waa loo baahnaa balse way ka wareertay oo ka sii dareen taasna lama dafiri karo, balse anigu siyaadna uma darsan balse waxaan rajeynayaa in mustaqblaku noqdo mid wanaagsan insha Allaah.

 

Runtu waxay tahay taariikhdu inaysan noqonayn koox kugu cid ah oo been kuugu camirta, amase kuwo cid kale ah oo wax walba kuu saariya, balse ay tahay dhaxalka...Odaygii dhulkii oo qiiqaya, dadkii oo uu isku diray, cuqdad ummadda dhexdeeda ah ayuun buu ka tegey and thats is why illaa maanta la isku cunayaa. Aniga aragtidayda, haddii uu wanaag ka tegey waa la guran lahaa ee la isma laayeen.

[oba hiloowlow]

Complicated which greater good sxb? bombing puntland, nort east Somalia and Galgaduud? Yeah thats what a patrotic government do

[DoctorKenney]

Complicated;881905 wrote:

Oba, If we follow your logic and that of XX then one can only conclude not only is the title of this thread erroneous but also distorting history. I cannot defend the ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings, nepotism, corruption, and the gross economic mismanagement the government of the time practiced but, what is as much in the same practice as that of the said government is the sort of generalisation and misleading quotes some throw around everywhere.

 

Lets me ask you guys a question, given the choice which decade was better off for most Somalis 1980-1990 or 1990-2010?

Well, technically 1990-2010 was a "worse" time for the Somali nation. However, what led to this mess was Siad Barre's policies. Even though Somalia was "stable" in the 1980's, there was still clan-persecution, extrajudicial killings, economic mismanagement and corruption as you've said. There are many older Somali men who personally suffered under Siad Barre's regime, and none would want to go back to that time in our history.

[oba hiloowlow]

DoctorKenney;881923 wrote:

Well, technically 1990-2010 was a "worse" time for the Somali nation. However, what led to this mess was Siad Barre's policies. Even though Somalia was "stable" in the 1980's, there was still clan-persecution, extrajudicial killings, economic mismanagement and corruption as you've said. There are many older Somali men who personally suffered under Siad Barre's regime, and none would want to go back to that time in our history.

+1

[Complicated]

Abwaan, lama diidana layskumana haysto ayaan filayaa in dawladii jirtay xiligaas (u fiirso ma isticmaalayo nin dhintay magacasiisa e, sababtoo ah waxaan aaminsanahay inuu alle SW la xisaabtamayo) ay ka aabo ahayd dhibka iyo dhibaatada haysata Soomaalida maanta. Mana aha in dooda la'isku haysto ay tahay difaacii dawladii xiligaas.

 

 

Dhibkay gaysatay dawladii xilagaas mayaysan run ahayn inay ka dartay dhibkii ka danbeeyay ee dhacay 10kii sano ee u dhexeeyay 90-2000 kaasoo si toos ah u taabtay waxa loo yaqaano Birrimagydada iyo intii saboolka ahayd? Mise adigu Abwaanoow ma "shaqsiyan" umma darsanin ayaad kusoo koobtay halaagan ku habsaday ummadii Soomaaliyeed oo waxaagu waa haduusan dhibku aniga itaabanin dhib ma jiroo waan is barbar dhigi karoo labadan xilli baa waxaagu?

[Complicated]

DoctorKenney;881923 wrote:

Well, technically 1990-2010 was a "worse" time for the Somali nation. However, what led to this mess was Siad Barre's policies. Even though Somalia was "stable" in the 1980's, there was still clan-persecution, extrajudicial killings, economic mismanagement and corruption as you've said. There are many older Somali men who personally suffered under Siad Barre's regime, and none would want to go back to that time in our history.

Doc-Ken: It's true there are many Somalis who would not want to go back to that history (and believe it or not my parents included) and rightly so however, one has to look at the bigger picture and what followed the said dictatorship. Given the choice I would rather have the average Somali living in peace than in fear for their lives, I would rather the poor and children worry about where their next meal is coming from than a bullet or shell landing on them. Although some might argue my conclusion is morally wrong, if I cannot escape it, I would have chosen the 100 innocent Somalis to die every year than 10,000 of them (mostly the poor) which is what followed the fall of that government.

[Abwaan]

Complicated;881930 wrote:

Abwaan, lama diidana layskumana haysto ayaan filayaa in dawladii jirtay xiligaas (u fiirso ma isticmaalayo nin dhintay magacasiisa e, sababtoo ah waxaan aaminsanahay inuu alle SW la xisaabtamayo) ay ka aabo ahayd dhibka iyo dhibaatada haysata Soomaalida maanta. Mana aha in dooda la'isku haysto ay tahay difaacii dawladii xiligaas.

 

 

Dhibkay gaysatay dawladii xilagaas mayaysan run ahayn inay ka dartay dhibkii ka danbeeyay ee dhacay 10kii sano ee u dhexeeyay 90-2000 kaasoo si toos ah u taabtay waxa loo yaqaano Birrimagydada iyo intii saboolka ahayd? Mise adigu Abwaanoow ma "shaqsiyan" umma darsanin ayaad kusoo koobtay halaagan ku habsaday ummadii Soomaaliyeed oo waxaagu waa haduusan dhibku aniga itaabanin dhib ma jiroo waan is barbar dhigi karoo labadan xilli baa waxaagu?

Complicated, shakhsiyan uma darsan waxaan ka wadaa, dano gaar ah kuma qabin towradda and taasna waan ku celinayaa "uma darsan". Dhibka hadda jirana dan kuma qabo oo Soomaaliya more than 20 years waanba ka soo maqnaa.

Midda kale waan kugu raacsanahay wixiisii wax ka sii daran ayaa dhacay but does not mean we have to cry for the towraddii anigu waxaan is dhihi karaa cancer ayay u dhigantaa arrinu "early stages, 1-2 and 3 and 4 oo ay hadda gaartey". Hadda ma waan la dhihi karin cancer meelna kama fiicna ee waa wada xun yahay? That is my dood.

[gooni]

21'ok waxay ku timid masuq maasuq baarlamaankii dalka hareeyay taasoo ciidamadii dalku u adkaysan waayeen ayadoon dhiig ku daadana wey la wareegeen,sidaad kuligiin la wada socotaan

 

 

Waxay aaseen qabiikii maracad baa loo xiray qof maydaa loo ekeysiiyay qabuuraha janaral d'uud baa la geeyay isla markiiba rag baa ka daba tagey oo godkii kasoo saaray subixiina waxaa lagu arkay ayadoo ciidii laga jafay mara guduudan ama cas'na loo xiray waana marada ilaa iyo hadda aan kuntanahay mudane iyo marwooyin

 

Carabtu waxay tirahdaa (ayaama siyaad barre ayaama ciss wa sharaf) ilaa iyo hadana 21'ka oktoobar bay noo hambalyeeyaan haddaad tiraahdo dawladaa ka dambeeyyayna,waxaad ka dareemaysaa inuu caqligaaga quursanayo ducayna bilaabaan iyo in ilaahay na asturo

 

Hadda yaanan oran waa fashilnay ee niraahno weli maanan najixin haray aan u socono siyaad bare naxariis aan alle u weydiino

21'ok' maalin xasuus badan waxaan xasuustaa anagoo yaryar oo boocdii tarabuunka sii hoos galna habaynimadii subixiina dhaxantu naga kacdo markii la gaaro ciidanka lugta iyo kumaandooska wonderful day indeed

[Saalax]

Burburkii Dimuquraadiyadii Soomaaliya, Hanaqaadkii Xukunka Militariga iyo Dhaxalkii Dagaalka Sokeeye.

 

 

Maanta oo Taariikhdu ku beegan tahay 21ka Oktoober ayaa ah xiligii xukunka dalka Soomaaliya ay la wareegeen ciidamada Qalbka Sida oo uu hogaaminayey Taliyihii ciidamada Gen.Maxamed Siyaad Barre (AUN), wakhtigaasi oo hada kasoo wareegtay 43 sano.

 

Jamhuuriyadii Soomaaliya oo xoriyada ka qaadatay dalalkii Gumeysan jiray ee Talyaaniga iyo Ingiriiska, taariikhdu markay ahayd 1960kii ayaa kamid ahayd wadamadii ugu horeeyey ee Dimuquraadiyada ah ee ka dhasha Qaarada Afrika, ayadoo dimuquraadiyadaasi ku dhisneyd habka xisbiyada iyo Baarlamaaniga, kuwaasi oo lagu soo dhisay maamuladii sida doorashada ah isu bed bedalay ee kala hogaamin jireen Aadan Cabdulle Cismaan iyo Dr.Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke, illaahay labadaas halyey ha u naxariistee.

 

 

Inkastoo maamuladaasi ay ahaayeen kuwo ay xoog ku lahayeen xisbigii SYL ee usoo halgamay xoriyad doonka waxaa sidoo kale jiray xisbiyo badan oo dalka Soomaaliya ka furmay kuwaasi oo loola dhanka siyaasada ah ku jiray, ayadoo Doorashooyinka Baarlamaanka ee ka dhici jiray degmooyinka dalka Soomaaliya ay ahaayeen kuwo tusaale u noqday wadamo badan oo Afrikaan ah inay ku daydaan.

 

Waxaa sidoo kale jira dhaliilo badan oo maamuladaasi Rayidka ah loo jeedin jiray sida arrimaha Musuq maasuqa, balse waxay ahaayeen maamulo si nabad ah xilalka ulla kala wareegi jiray isla markaana shacabku wuxuu lahaa xoriyad uu wax ku dhaliilo ama wax ku taageero.

 

 

15kii Oktoober 1969kii oo ahayd maalin madow oo soo martay Taariikhda Soomaaliya, kadib markii magaalada Laascaanood lagu dilay Madaxweynihii Jamhuuriyada Dr.Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke, xili uu ku jiray kormeer uu ku marayey dhulkii ay saameyeen Abaarihii sanadkaasi ka dhacay dalka ayaa waxaa khal khal iyo rajo xumo ku timid nidaamkii dimuquraadiga ahaa ee muddada soo shaqeenayey.

 

Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmaarke ayaa la aasay 20kii Oktoober ayadoo aaskiisa dib loogu dhigay si ay uga soo qeyb galaan Madaxda Caalamka iyo waliba Raysalwasaarihii dalka Soomaaliya Maxamed Ibrahim Xaaji Cigaal (AUN) oo xiligaas safar shaqo ugu maqnaa dalka Maraykanka.

 

21kii Oktoober 1969, Kadib Aaskii Qaran ee Madaxweyne Cabdirashiid waxaa saqdii dhexe habeenimadii ay soo galeysay 21kii Oktoober dalka la wareegay ciidamada Qalabka sida ee Soomaaliya oo uu hogaaminayo Taliyahooda Maxamed Siyaad Bare (AUN), kuwaasi oo ku dhawaaqay Inqilaab aan dhiig ku daadan, walow dad badan aaminsan yihiin in Militariga iyo mas’uuliyiin dowlada kamid ah ay lug weyn ku lahayeen abaabulka iyo qorshihii lagu dilay Madaxweyne Dr.Cabdirashiid Cali Sharmarke.

 

 

Xukuumadii Militariga iyo Tilaabadii ugu horeysay

 

Ciidamadii Inqilaabka kula wareegay dowladii Rayidka ahayd ee Soomaaliya, ayaa ku dhawaaqay inay dhiseen Golaha Gudiga Kacaanka, kuwaasi oo ka koobnaa xubnihii sar sare ee Militariga, waxna kasoo qorsheeyey Inqilaabka.

 

ilitariga ayaa sidoo kale XABSIGA dhigay Madaxdii Qaranka Soomaaliya oo ay kamid ahaayeen:

 

1- Raysalwasaarihii xiligaasi Allaha u naxariisteen Maxamed Ibraahim Cigaal iyo dhamaan Golihiisii Wasiirada

 

2- Madaxweynihii hore Allaha u naxariisto Aadan Cabdulle Cismaan

 

3- Guddoomiyihii Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya Allaha u naxariisto Shiikh Mukhtaar

 

4- Iyo dad kale oo badan oo kamid ahaa xisbigii SYL iyo Siyaasiyiin Rayid ah oo aan xiligaa dowlada ku jirin

 

Waxaa sidoo kale lasoo saaray Labadii warqadood ee Militariga ku bedaleen Dastuurkii Qaranka Soomaaliyeed loo sameeyey 1960kii oo ah midka hada laga soo minguuriyey Dastuurka Federaalka ee la ansixiyey sanadkan aan ku jirno ee 2012ka.

 

Kadib laalidii Dastuurka Soomaaliya, waxaa militariga uu dhisay dowlad isugu jirta Saraakiil militari iyo Aqoonyahano Rayid ah.

 

 

Kadib laalidii Dastuurka Soomaaliya, waxaa militariga uu dhisay dowlad isugu jirta Saraakiil militari iyo Aqoonyahano Rayid ah.

 

 

Gen.Maxamed Siyaad Barre (AUN)

1- Dhamaan Xisbiyada dalka ka jiray oo albaabada loo laabay

2- Banaanbaxyada

3- Shirarka Gaarka ah

4- Waxaa la xanibay Khudbooyinkii Masaajidada Maalinta Jimcaha oo la sheegay inay ay fasixi karto oo kaliya Wasaarada Garsoorka iyo cadaalada iyo qodobo kale oo lagu xakameenayey dhaq dhaqaaqa shacabka.

 

Muddo kadib Waxaa la dhisay Xisbiga HANTI WADAAGA KACAANKA oo u jeen jeeray siyaasada Hantiwadaaga, dalka Soomaaliya ayaana markaasi la sheegay in lagu dabakhay HANTI WADAAGA cilimiga ku dhisan.

 

Waxaana wakhti danbe gadaal laga dhisay Golaha Deegaanka iyo Golihii Shacabka.

 

Dhanka kale waxay xukuumada Qarameysay dhamaan Shirkadihii Ajnabiga ahaa iyo Bangiyadii ka jiray dalka Soomaliya.

 

 

 

Siyaasada Arrimaha Dibada

 

Dowlada Militariga ayaa xoojisay siyaasadoodii u jeen jeentay dhanka Wadama Hantiwadaaga xiligii uu socday dagaalkii Qaboobaa (The Cold War) ee u dhaxeeyey Reer Galbeedka iyo wadamada Hantiwadaaga ah.

 

 

Waxyaabihii lagu amaanay Dowladii Militariga

 

1- Qoridii farta Soomaaliya oo la hirgeliyey

2- Bacaad celinta Shalambood

3- Dib u dejinta dadkii ku sabooloobay Abaartii Dabo-dheer

4- Barnaamijyadii Dhiiri -gelinta Beeraleyda iyo Kaluumeysata

5- Xoojinta Awooda Militari ee dalka, taasoo soo dedejisay dagaalkii 1977kii.

 

 

[/b]1975 Siyaad Barre iyo Culumadii Soomaaliya[/b]

Culimo Soomaaliyeed ayaa ka dhiidhiyeen sharci ay soo rogtey xukuumadii Siyaad Barre ; sharcigaas oo ka hor imaneyey Qur’aanka (Xukunka Allah).

 

Maadaama ay dadka Soomaaliyeed oo 100% muslim sunni ah u cuntami weydey xukunkaas ayey culimadu gadoodeen; waxaana loogu jawaabey in toban culimadii ka mid ah lagu xukumay dil; waxaana culimadaas Muqdisho lagu toogtey 23/1/1975.

 

 

 

1977 Dagaalkii Soomaaliya iyo Itoobiya

 

Dagaalkaasi oo ay Ciidamada Soomaaliya Guulo ka keeneen bilowgiisa, ayaa markii danbe isu bedalay burbur xoogleh oo ku yimid Awoodii Militari ee Soomaaliya, kadib markii wadamada Hantiwadaaga ay la safteen Dowladii Shuuciga ahayd ee Mingiste ee ka jirtay Itoobiya.

 

Waxay arrintan keentay in ciidamo caalami ah oo ka socda Cuba, Yemen iyo Bariga Jarmalka lagu soo xoojiyo Ciidamadii la jabiyey ee Itoobiya.

 

 

Niyadjabkii ka yimid dagaalkaasi 1977dii ayaa keentay in Madaxda sare ee Militariga ay shaki ka qaadaan Saraakiishii dagaalka ka soo noqoneysay inay ayagu inqilaab ku sameeyaan waxaana dil toogasho ah lagu xukumay in badan oo kamid ah Saraakiishii Soomaaliyeed ee dagaalkaasi kasoo noqotay, halka qaar kalena la xiray.

 

Inqilaabkii Dhicisoobay ee 1978dii

Abriil 9, 1978 – Waxaa dhicisoobey Inqilaab lala maaganaa in lagu rido xukuumadii Siyaad Barre. Waxaana la toogtey 17 kamid ahaa ragii inqilaabka lagu tuhmay oo uu kujirey Col. Maxamed Sheekh Cismaan oo ahaa hogaaminayey Inqilaabka. Xilligaas ayuu Cabdullaahi Yuusuf Axmed ka baxay Soomaaliya maadaama uu kamid ah raggii ku jirey fulinta Inqilaabkaas.

 

Inqilaabku wuxuu ku qorshaysnaa inuu dhaco April 12, 1978, laakiin wuu ka soo hormaray oo wuxuu dhacay taariikhdu markay ahayd April 9, 1978 waana uu dhicisoobay.

 

 

 

September 1978 – Col. Cabdullaahi Yuusuf oo kamid ahaa Saraakiishii Ciidamada Soomaaliya Hogaaminayey dagaalkii 1977, ayaa asaasay mucaaradkii ugu horeeyay ee si toos ah ulla dagaalama xukunkii Militariga, waa jabhadii (SSF) taas oo bishii Oktoober 1981 isu bedeshey (SSDF), jabhadaasi ayaa ahayd mid soo shaqeenaysay illaa dhismihii Maamulka Puntland ee 1998-dii laga dhisay gobaladii Waqooyi Bari, Sool, bariga Sanaag iyo Degmada Buuhoodle ee gobalka Togdheer.

 

[Abriil 1981 waxaa la aasaasay Jabhadihii SNM. Jabhadan ayaa soo shaqeenaysay illaa sanadkii 1991-dii la markii la dhisay

Soomaaliland oo xooreeyen.

 

1989kii waxaa la aasaasay Jabhadii USC. Jabhadan ayaa ahayd midii fursada u heshay inay gacanta ku dhigto magaalada Muqdisho ee caasimada dalka Soomaaliya iyo xarumihii ugu muhiimsanaa Dowlada oo ay ku jiraan kuwii militariga iyo Kaydkii hubka Qaranka Soomaaliyeed, walow ay ku guuleysan weysay inay dhisto wax maamul ah.

 

 

Dhamaan Jabhadahan oo siyaasado kala duwan watay ayaa hal mid ku mideysnaa, taasi oo ahayd in xukunka ka tuuraan Xukuumadii Maxamed Siyaad Barre.

 

Bixitaankii Siyaad Barre ee Muqdisho

 

[/b]27kii Janaayo 1991[/b] - Maxamed Siyaad Barre ayaa ka baxay Caasimada Soomaaliya ee Muqdisho. Waxaa xiligaasi si rasmi ah u bilowday Dagaalkii Sokeeye ee dalka Soomaaliya, kadib markii Jabhadihii dalka qabsaday ay hanan waayeen dhismo maamul Soomaali oo dhan ay u dhanyihiin.

 

 

Hussein Farah

Horseed Media

 

 

http://horseedmedia.net/2012/10/21/burburkii-dimuquraadiyadii-soomaaliya-hanaqaadkii-xukunka-militariga-iyo-dhaxalkii-dagaalka-sokeeye/

[Wiil Cusub]

21 okt 1969 was indeed end of Somali legitimate government, sinds SRC disbanded the National Assembly and suspended the constitution was illegal on power. "Hal Xaaran ahi nirig xalaala ma dhasho" you can't expect justest from an illegal goverment.

 

In short you can read from this pic