Somalia Posted October 20, 2012 Mario B;881578 wrote: You lot opposed Khatumo state, Faroole and you have no credibility whatsoever on this matter. No single sub-clan can form a clan state in Jubooyinka without the supervision of Somali Government and without the interfering of foreign governments. AMISOM's job is to provide security, no more. Ps Dr Abdiweli as a PM refused to acknowledge KS and was/has been toying the PL line, so much for universal leadership from him. He met Awdal state, an entity that had no power in the ground at a time when people were being killed in Buuhodle by some contrived "Republic". You're betrayal was noted, saxib!! At the moment I don't give sh!t about clan states including yours. Abdiweli Mohamed had no stance on Khaatumo. He made no stance on Jubbaland either, the difference was that he welcomed the intervention against Al-Shabaab. Abdiweli has shown himself to be a leader of all Somalis, a bit of slander from people who can't unite at a sub-clan level will not hurt his stance. If he was a bad person, the current president would not seek his advise. If we have no credibility as Puntland, then you shouldn't be worried and others shall not seek our political assistance. Khaatumo today can't stand on its feet, it's in league with Somaliland, more and more politicians are abandoning the project in favour of the secessionists, just like we said from the beginning. The opposition to Khaatumo was due to the fact that you told your followers that we are your cadows, we are the enemy even though Somaliland occupied your region, not Puntland. Then you attacked pro-Puntland troops in Tukaraq as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 20, 2012 lol arafaat let me start: Dad waa dool dadna waa deegaan, deriis wanaagse diidi maa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted October 20, 2012 Mario don't you know that cabdi cawar was farooles agent in Mogadishu he could not support khatumo if he did he would go against farooles rules that was the reason why cabdi cawar didn't support khaatumo. Faroole claims the territories of the Khatumites and he would never tolerate a prime minister or president to directly meddle in affairs of what he calls his internal state affairs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 20, 2012 Does anyone of you actually have control over what happens in Jubba? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted October 20, 2012 Che -Guevara;881606 wrote: Does anyone of you actually have control over what happens in Jubba? Stop trying to bring sense into these discussions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted October 20, 2012 Gargabe simply put. You can't have a government within a govenment. I don't get the idea a mini state run by clan militia sponsored by foreign army can overwrite the central federal government of the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 20, 2012 Now here we got a Jubbalander who is smart. Jacpher I salute you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted October 20, 2012 Che -Guevara;881606 wrote: Does anyone of you actually have control over what happens in Jubba? Do we have control over Muqdisho for that matter? what is your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharma-arke451 Posted October 20, 2012 the tribal flag bearer of sol is oba. The dude drinks qabiil, sleeps qabiil, talks qabiil, dreams qabiil, threads qabiil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,etc Asoow qabiil rabyaa igaarka!!?!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 20, 2012 :D war as ngonge once said Qabiil is everything ,,balaayo kugu dhici weyde Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted October 20, 2012 lol@Oba war habaarka ka daa aabahaa la janneeye Heh!@this thread. Of course Muqdisho will dictate to Kismaayo. Stop being ridiculous people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 20, 2012 lol@ Abahaa la janeeye love that expression. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted October 20, 2012 Mario B;881578 wrote: You lot opposed Khatumo state, Faroole and you have no credibility whatsoever on this matter. No single sub-clan can form a clan state in Jubooyinka without the supervision of Somali Government and without the interfering of foreign governments. AMISOM's job is to provide security, no more. Ps Dr Abdiweli as a PM refused to acknowledge KS and was/has been toying the PL line, so much for universal leadership from him. He met Awdal state, an entity that had no power in the ground at a time when people were being killed in Buuhodle by some contrived "Republic". You're betrayal was noted, saxib!! At the moment I don't give sh!t about clan states including yours. Should have read, "with the interference of a foreign government". @Somalia, how can a PM be neutral about state formation when he is advocating the very thing...?![ Glad to see you didn't try to defend Faroole here]. As for the two, Dr Gaas has much more integrity than Faroole, and I hope he comes back and gets one of the two jobs in 4 years time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted October 20, 2012 sharma-arke451;881640 wrote: the tribal flag bearer of sol is oba. The dude drinks qabiil, sleeps qabiil, talks qabiil, dreams qabiil, threads qabiil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,etc Asoow qabiil rabyaa igaarka!!?!!!! I agree Oba is a big qabiilist in this forum and he also habours some degenerate views , he also seem to confuse the seat of Government with his clan's power structure, a view that PL seem to share. If we are not careful, the President of the Republic, who is suppose to speak for all Somalis, might be eventually be reduced to a "clan President"....and if that were to happen then it will be a tragedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macallinka Posted October 21, 2012 Mogadishu can dictated what happens in Jubooyinka but ppl from Jubbas also have the right to form a state just like any other state . Lets form an inclusive administration as soon as possible and stop these nonsense ! There are certain people who are not happy about Jubbaland and taking advantage of these squabbles and we must not let this happen ......so let us focus people and do this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites