Anyone else following this showdown between Turkey, Syria and Russia

[AfricaOwn]

Turkey brought down a Syrian plane en route from Moscow, accusing it of carrying Russian munitions. The Russian foreign ministers says its a hoax, Syria also challenges Turkey to display the weapons for the world to see. Russian company that sent it to Syria demands that Turkey to return their equipments.

 

Turkey looks very shady in this...

[DoctorKenney]

Any conflict that involves Turkey also involves NATO. I doubt the Russians are gonna make a move against Turkey knowing that NATO would step in after that

[AfricaOwn]

^^^Turkey is just playing ****** politics. Why would they risk straining bilateral relationship with Russia? Why not take a neutral stance in this conflict. Someone please tell Turkey that they're not build for this, and just focus on sending small help to Somalia. Nato is making them do all their dirty work...bravo to them.

[DoctorKenney]

^^As Turkey is right next to Syria, there is no way they're gonna take a neutral stance on this conflict.

 

It's not like Turkey is a country like Canada, where Canada really doesn't give a damn what goes on in Syria because it's so far away.

 

This Syrian war directly affects Turkey

[AfricaOwn]

^^^ Of course they can take a neutral stance. If they want some resolution in this conflict they'll try and sit both sides together at least. Instead, what they do is just take a bias approach and side with the rebels (most of them are straight up terrorists ).

[DoctorKenney]

Those Islamic Extremists are my biggest worry with this conflict in Syria. They would want Syria to resemble Afghanistan or South-Central Somalia.

 

Even if Assad steps down or is ousted; controlling these extremists is gonna be a huge problem. What Turkey COULD do is to arm like-minded rebels, either Seculars or Moderate Islamists and see if they can steer the conflict in their favor

[AfricaOwn]

^^^The Turkish pm decisions on Syria is also very unpopular inside, opposition leaders are calling him a puppet.

[DoctorKenney]

Apophis;879826 wrote:

^^ They can't do that; this whole thing is financed by extremist central aka Saudi Arabia; they're trying to isolate Iran.

Then we have a huge problem don't we. It seems like we're dealing with a duplicitous Saudi Arabia, where they hold the hands of George W Bush while at the same time they fund Islamic extremists. Something needs to be done

 

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[DoctorKenney]

Apophis;879839 wrote:

^^ nothing to be done before the wells run dry but when that happens, man o man; you'll have all these rich hypocrites (most likely their descendent) doing the cleaning at your local cinemas, hospitals and streets.

Hopefully we find a method to get rid of our oil addiction in the near future. There's no need to support a duplicitous and corrupt administration like Saudi Arabia.

[AfricaOwn]

The US oil production onshore on federal lands has increased a lot in the recent years. I hope that they become less dependent on Saudi oil. The corrupt Saudi admin needs to fall down asap...democracy will be brought in.

[DoctorKenney]

90% of Saudi exports are OIL They have absolutely NO manufacturing base and no industry. They were blessed by Allah with all this oil wealth and have NOTHING to show for it. Not only are they corrupt but also incompetent

 

If we manage to develop electric cars and electric powered airplanes, the price of oil will drop and this would hurt the corrupt administration of Saudi Arabia.

[sharma-arke451]

dragging saudia in the geopolitical happening between syria and turkey, is neither here nor there. Only a political orphan will link saudi government to ''terrorist'' funding.

 

economic interest drives the political wheel of our universe today. War is an economic tool for off setting gov't budget deficits,,,,,,for those who know.

 

turkey knows best its political interest, and the pm is an expert in the game. i don't think turkey will loose anything, may be a compromise for humanity sake,,,,,

[Suldaanka]

No one is prepared to go to war, even Tukrey is not prepared to go to an outright war with Syria. They just want to be on the right side of history and is all about smoke and mirrrors.

[DoctorKenney]

sharma-arke451;879855 wrote:

dragging saudia in the geopolitical happening between syria and turkey, is neither here nor there. Only a political orphan will link saudi government to ''terrorist'' funding.

 

economic interest drives the political wheel of our universe today. War is an economic tool for off setting gov't budget deficits,,,,,,for those who know.

 

turkey knows best its political interest, and the pm is an expert in the game. i don't think turkey will loose anything, may be a compromise for humanity sake,,,,,

You have to be incredibly naive to believe that countries only act out of economic interests.

 

Maybe you're unfamiliar with this, but people--and nations-- have something called "principles". People naturally want to make a country into their own image. That's why there is a proxy war in Syria between Saudi Arabia/NATO/Iran/Russia. Each nation (or nations) want to see a Aria which they can live with

[sharma-arke451]

DoctorKenney;879892 wrote:

You have to be incredibly naive to believe that countries only act out of economic interests.

 

Maybe you're unfamiliar with this, but people--and nations-- have something called "principles". People naturally want to make a country into their own image. That's why there is a proxy war in Syria between Saudi Arabia/NATO/Iran/Russia. Each nation (or nations) want to see a Aria which they can live with

I will take the above as a token of your poor political awareness,,,,,,,,,it speaks volumes about your political innocence,

Having said that, to prioritise iran(ocourse syria in the bracket) over israel, as an enemy for the kingdom, is out of proportion. Yes, saudia has religious and political issues against iran, but that does not warrant israel friendship. The enemy of your enemy is your friend holds. It is more reasonable to think, saudia will support iran to rid israel, after which it will seek iran's fall. this is so, because, persians are closer to arabs than israels, before the religious issue arise. Arab nations at large, except two (egypt and jordan) have no diplomatic relaations with israel,,,, and mark you, the sudanese passport has the stamp which read ''valid for travel to all countries except israel'',,, iska fahan yakheey.