The Zack Posted October 7, 2012 Oba lool@kulushahay. I am as calm as any one can be. Just stating facts bro. While i see your point, i believe the importance of the name is minimal. It should be one of the last things we care about. What do you say? Real issues that impact average cali and average canab in Jubooyinka need to be focused on i say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 7, 2012 The Juba Free State has a nice ring to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 7, 2012 lol of course real issues should be focused on laakin i see certain trends these days, im just concerned nothing else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted October 8, 2012 lol@Zack war ma zack saan u dambeysay waryaa maxaad sidii kurdidii isu waaleysaa what is all these fuss about and identity problem. Chill out sxb! We are heading same direction, same faith doqonimo yeesan naqaadin lets not go back, common sense has to prevail bro. And let me tell you one thing, the name Azania will never be adopted taa meel iga qor......and you can NOT exclude Gedo from the rest like it or no taana iga qor wax kale aan ka hadalno. I dont have a problem with you (i mean YOU) u knw what am talking about but I dont like the devil inside you, you know what i mean.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted October 9, 2012 Raamsade;877792 wrote: As long as the locals are consulted with, those spearheading this Jubbaland entity are actually from the region and the new government in Mogadishu gives Jubbaland its blessings no one will/should be against it. But we know none of that holds true. The locals are side-stepped as evidenced by the 1001 different groups sprining up everywhere all claiming to be "true natives/owners" of Kismaayo. You have foreign government, Kenya, pushing some obscure clan outfits like Ras Kamboni to enforce their Jubbaland agenda against the expressed wishes of the new federal government in Xamar. And finally, just about everyone championing this fictitious entity, Jubbaland, including many here on SOL weren't even born in Jubbooyinka. Why should someone who wasn't born there have more say about the region's future than those who were and live there now? Hey, hey, you say you are from Hiiraan, but in Hiiraan you sideline the same people you want to have an input in Jubbaland/Azania project, and you are creating a state without their input while Ethiopians guard you, what's up with that mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 9, 2012 ^^ Somalia you know those ppl getting side-lined in Hiiraan are one of the groups whose getting side lined in the Jubbas.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted October 9, 2012 The difference is in Jubboyinka they will be given their position and included in discussions unlike in Hiiraan, that's my point to Raamsade! They aren't killed and prosecuted in Jubboyinka, and they will be an integral part of Jubbaland/Azania State of Somalia, the second state to fulfil the 2 region criteria thus technically making them the second state! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted October 9, 2012 yeah but the problem in Hiiraan is waxba la iskuma ogola even within Raamsade's clan they are not united thats the problem there is only one motto working in south ''One for all all for one'' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted October 22, 2012 Somalia;878627 wrote: Hey, hey, you say you are from Hiiraan, but in Hiiraan you sideline the same people you want to have an input in Jubbaland/Azania project, and you are creating a state without their input while Ethiopians guard you, what's up with that mate? Did Raamsade ever respond to this? Why are the "Camel-lovers" sidelined in Hiiraan? HUH? Allamagan, Sxb the evil you see is in Kismaayo. They live there so they have the right to be involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites