oba hiloowlow Posted October 2, 2012 seriously somalia and macalinka those people you are saying are the rightful owners of kismaayo entered the city in 19th century, the reer badhaadhe, ras kambooni entered the city before the reer Gedo xoolo badan bey magaalada isu geeyen hence why warshadda hilibka was located in Kismaayo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yunis Posted October 2, 2012 Macallinka;876077 wrote: That is too harsh to call a whole Somali clan savages is way too much , I didn't know is allowed on SOL for such a hatred to be displayed here? Abtigiis what is up with you today? wax iskula har ina adeer waa ceeb inaad saas reer dhan sharaftood uga dhacdid. That is all I am saying in this. @Macallinka, Relax sxb - AT calling curtain clan savages and murders, doesn’t make it so. After all, it’s his own that does enough of that to its own in the . What he is arguing, I think, is that his ‘long foot’ kin should have big share of any Jubaland administration that is to come. Reer Gedo have huge stake in Kismayo and its surroundings and they will play a key role of Jubaland region. That said, for a genuine peace and coexistence to return in that precious region the clan has to play a prominent role. If anyone ever been to the Jubbada-hoose, as I have been, the undeniable fact is that those key villages and towns like Badhaadhe, Jamaame and of course Afmadoow as well as the grazing lands of Xagar are overwhelming inhabited by the clan. There are others, minority clans of course, but is a big factor in those outlining areas, and thus should get at minimum the governorship of the future state in my opinion. who gets the Jubaland president is different matter altogether. If, however, this Azania sect which has the advantage now with Yussuf Mohamed Haji in Nairobi and Raaskambooni forces who are arm to the tooth, believe with impunity they can proclaim ‘Awoowgood lagub, Reer Gedo haka baxeen jubooyinka’ they are in it for a rude awakening. As for for Reer caanoole, they are doing fine for themselves in Puntland, May they keep on prospering in Puntland:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macallinka Posted October 2, 2012 @Yusin you are right about the clan being the big factor in those areas and no one can deny that but for him to diss a whole clan out of blue call them savages and what not is damn wrong and I was telling him inuu wax iskulaharo that is all. Actually is people like AT who create mistrust between these communities as we speak they (the block) are busy talking and building state in the Jubooyinka which every community will get its fare share.....the days of killing and uprooting people are over but yaa u sheegaaye hee these keyboard worries .......Little they know how devastating a war could be specially between communities that live so close to each other! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted October 2, 2012 ^^ You know how most little towns have a mad man that most people avoid? You know, like you'll be standing with a group of people and suddenly see the madman running towards you; all of you start worrying if its YOU he's chosen to attack or talk to today, etc. That mad man is A&T and today it is your turn. Adkeeso warya oo dhakarka ku yaal PL, SL & HAG eeg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted October 2, 2012 NG, madman or fatman, there are times when truth should be told to the delusional and that can get ugly. What we need in the Jubboyinka is peace, stability and shared prosperity. For that to happen,reer Gedo need to accept that those who are the majority in Jubbaland, whether they are clan A, clan B or clan C, will take their deserved share in any adminstration set up for the Jubbas. From what we hear, it looks Gabbal and AllaMagan's madness is informing the political whims of their kins. Well they should know the Kacan was long, long time ago and that the Kacaan donkeys have learned how to write their own history. :D Having said that if the outcome of the majority clans in Juba is that a non- should lead the region, it is fine. It reflects the views of the majority clans. After all, any one clan cannot claim to be the majority if there are others who agree to come togather and challenge it. What is not acceptable is arming Barre Hiraale and his remanants to try to take Kismayo by force and displace people or to stifle homegrown political processes (provided the Jubbaland meeting to set up an adminstration is held in Kismayo) just because such a meeting will not to in the interest of certian groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabrow Posted October 2, 2012 Abtigis is just being good ethiopian. He want the south Somalia to burn the next 20 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raamsade Posted October 3, 2012 Yunis;876154 wrote: That said, for a genuine peace and coexistence to return in that precious region the clan has to play a prominent role. If anyone ever been to the Jubbada-hoose, as I have been, the undeniable fact is that those key villages and towns like Badhaadhe, Jamaame and of course Afmadoow as well as the grazing lands of Xagar are overwhelming inhabited by the clan. This is of course nosense. If the clan is really as numerous in Lower Jubba as you imply, then how come every single clan leader in that region was born either in Ethiopia or Kenya? How come this large community has not being able to rear a single prominent leader from within and need help from a guy born in 1000+ kms away? From C. Jees (born in Ethiopia) and Gabyow (born in Kenya) to Xassan Turki and Madoobe all were born outside of Somalia never mind in L. Jubba. In fact, you can say pretty much say the same thing for every clan militia that ever fought in L. Jubba, almost all were led by men born outside the region be it Morgan, Ceydiid, Indhacade, Hiiraale, etc. Fact is the L. Jubba is diverse region (as is Gedo despite the farce the region being made synonymous with one clan simply because that clan shared lineage with Siyad Barre) with many different clans. Credit to the true inhabitants of that region because they're civilized people with no interest in mindless warring unlike the maurading militias from outside the region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites