Carafaat Posted September 13, 2012 The big difference between all these groups and S/L is that they (the groups) are not seeking to establish their own states; they have a veryshort term objective and Ethiopia is willing to assist them with their aims. Now S/L, has a much longer termed objective and it thus sees Ethiopia, the natural enemy of Somalia, as a friend who it can assist with its objectives (never seeing a strong united Somalis) and thus further their own. But all this is, of course, late night conjecture. Indeed, its late night reflection. But still to me its the same. All these groups have certain objectives and Ethiopia in return uses them to fulfill its own long term objective(Somalias division). Nontheless, we seem to agree Somalis should have one united and strong foreign affairs policy, whatever the internal relations of Somaliland and Somalia is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted September 13, 2012 Apophis;869244 wrote: Of course it's possible that there could be an alliance but it would have to be a very strong one. Something akin to what we see in Europe, would S/L accept such an alliance? I don't know but I hope so. The big difference between all these groups and S/L is that they (the groups) are not seeking to establish their own states; they have a very short term objective and Ethiopia is willing to assist them with their aims. Now S/L, has a much longer termed objective and it thus sees Ethiopia, the natural enemy of Somalia, as a friend who it can assist with its objectives (never seeing a strong united Somalis) and thus further their own. But all this is, of course, late night conjecture. Ethiopia actually sees both Somaliland and Somalia as its natural enemy remember SL/ Somalia fought under one command against Ethiopians in 1977. And the attack on northern Ethiopia in the 16 century was launched from Somaliland at that time the Empire was called Walashma Dynasty VS the Ethiopian Solomonic dynasty. Ethiopia neither wants to see Somaliland and Somalia united as one country nor do they want Somaliland to be separate and be a recognized state neighboring Somalia. Nor do they want to see a strong effective Somalia they will always try to play Somalis against each other and they did a pretty good job the past 21 years unfortunately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nin-Yaaban Posted September 14, 2012 Personally, i could care less. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted September 14, 2012 ninkii MMA ka sheekeynaye maa tahay oo mar dagaaladdii ceydiid iyo ali mahdi ka yiri qabw iyo kuleyl midna iguma hayo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted September 14, 2012 oba hiloowlow;869255 wrote: ninkii MMA ka sheekeynaye maa tahay oo mar dagaaladdii ceydiid iyo ali mahdi ka yiri qabw iyo kuleyl midna iguma hayo :D:D waad iga qoslisay OBA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 14, 2012 I actually won't mind secession if it means Carafaat would be in different country:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted September 14, 2012 Che -Guevara;869258 wrote: I actually won't mind secession if it means Carafaat would be in different country:D Carafaat will still bother you with his niiko fetish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 14, 2012 ^As long as he's not in our neighborhood, that's fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted September 14, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;869256 wrote: :D:D waad iga qoslisay OBA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2012 Che -Guevara;869264 wrote: ^As long as he's not in our neighborhood, that's fine. I would definetly choose for Somalia. I am born and bred in Xamar sxb. So definetly I would choose Niiko above Buranbuur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted September 14, 2012 Niiko is a bantu tradition it should be banned nothing to do with ethnic somali tradition... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2012 Nin-Yaaban;869254 wrote: Personally, i could care less. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. Come on man. You are Somali. I am sure you an opinion or preference. You cant be that cold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted September 14, 2012 Define Somaliland. If you mean parts togdheer and majority waqooyi galbeed and they want to secede..i am all for it. I say have a nice life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted September 14, 2012 Somaliland needs the rest of Somalia. It's not economically viable to break from the rest. The secessionist delusions aside. Somalia is one nation.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted September 14, 2012 Because I love Somalilanders Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites