A film named 'Innocence of Muslims' ignating rage across muslim world

[Alpha Blondy]

why are the extremist Muslims and Hassan Nasrallah getting worked up. the prophet (s.a.w) was attacked, verbally abused and he always exercised restraint and never responded in a negative way.

[Mario B]

And those who malign believing men and believing women undeservedly, they bear the guilt of slander and manifest sin. [Quran 33:58]

 

So how does this justify the killing of a diplomat though? or the destruction of property or the killing of innocent citizen who shares the slanderer's/defamer's ethnicity, religion, nationality etc

 

Now I want you to ponder this ayah, and think about your current condition/state.

 

أَتَأۡمُرُونَ ٱلنَّاسَ بِٱلۡبِرِّ وَتَنسَوۡنَ أَنفُسَكُمۡ وَأَنتُمۡ تَتۡلُونَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ*ۚ أَفَلَا تَعۡقِلُونَ (٤٤

[Maaddeey]

Waxaan kaaga digaayey aad weli ku jirtaa! Allaha ku aruuriyo sxb.

[Mario B]

^^ Lol, so you think that ayah is talking to the Jews and Christians only? Saxib, this deen is bigger than you, it encompasses a lot that your primitive mind can't comprehend, so I suggest you stick to simple worship and leave complex matters of governance to those qualified in ahkam sultaniyyah. [ I include myself in this]

[Maaddeey]

Include ur self where?, the experts in ahkam sultaniya (whatever it means) or the group that should stick to simple worship?.

 

Ps. Since you didn't get my earlier post, far waaweyn aan kuugu dhigaa:

 

How did you know I want innocent people killed or markets blown up? 'walaa taqfu maa laysa laka bihi cilm, inna samca wal basara wal fu'aada, kullu ulaa'ika kaana canhu mas'uulaa'. Al- israa verse: 36

[Mario B]

Maaddeey;870977 wrote:

How did you know I want innocent people killed or markets blown up?

How do I know? because you support Al-qaeda linked Al-Shaabab, and blowing up markets and busses is their modus-operandi.

 

Ahkam Sultaniya is...

 

[Mario B]

Maaddeey;870977 wrote:

Include ur self where?

I include myself in the advice I gave you, you and I are simple muslim worshipers, we should leave matters of state and international affairs to the relevant authorities. [sorry, I wasn't clear early on]

[Maaddeey]

Mario B;870982 wrote:

How do I know? because you support Al-qaeda linked Al-Shaabab, and blowing up markets and busses is their modus-operandi.

 

Ahkam Sultaniya is...

 

I cant see the jpg, but I assume its a pic of a book. My question: 'how do you know', doesn't make you suspect your belief towards me?.

[Mario B]

Maaddeey;870435 wrote:

If you say that was freedom of speach, I say Muslims'

part is freedom of action!,

you don't loke it, cool. I was only showing I didn't like yours either!.

This is what I objected to [putting aside your political beliefs], what do you mean by freedom of action...? So the death of diplomat was part of muslim freedom of action:confused: Are you advocating that Muslims should behave like deranged vigilante whenever our sensibilities are hurt. Did that Diplomat make the film? Did the baiter represent all Americans....

[Maaddeey]

Now you are asking!, good.

[Mario B]

Maaddeey;871092 wrote:

Now you are asking!, good.

[Maaddeey]

^^ lool

First, do you know what is the ruling of the one who insults the Prophet?.

 

Is there a government on earth that represents Islam?

 

About the 'freedom of action', have you come across the Hadeeth:

......من راى منكم منكرا فليغيره بيده فإن لم يستطع فبلسانه فإن لم يستطع ?

 

For the record, I don't condone or advocate for the killing of innocent people, and if you or others believed or thought so, they can only blame their brains and understanding!.

[Maaddeey]

^^ lool

First, do you know what is the ruling of the one who insults the Prophet?.

 

Is there a government on earth that represents Islam?

 

About the 'freedom of action', have you come across the Hadeeth:

......من راى منكم منكرا فليغيره بيده فإن لم يستطع فبلسانه فإن لم يستطع ?

 

For the record, I don't condone or advocate for the killing of innocent people, and if you or others believed or thought so, they can only blame their brains and understanding!.

[Mario B]

First, do you know what is the ruling of the one who insults the Prophet?.

You tell me, what is the punishment of the one who insults, Allah, his messenger [sAW] or Islam?

 

Is there a government on earth that represents Islam?

Muslims world is full of corrupt leaders and corrupt masses,hadly the fault of Islam, but for me any country that guarantee's your life, gives you freedom of worship, property right and has a fair judicial system [that people are innocent untill proven otherwise and you have judicial recourse] then it's a country worth living in. If you want Sharia in a State, the sharia came to preserve these five:- Life, deen (religion), intellect, property, and lineage/honor.

 

Now if you're saying our societies are unjust then, you can begin healing Somalia by renousing you militia and start working with the majority.

 

......من راى منكم منكرا فليغيره بيده فإن لم يستطع فبلسانه فإن لم يستطع ?

So how are you going to change what happened with your hand?

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Police killings: man arrested over Dale Cregan Facebook page

 

Page appears to praise man arrested on suspicion of murdering Manchester police officers and suggest he should receive OBE

 

A man has been arrested in connection with an offensive Facebook page set up following the deaths of police officers Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone, Greater Manchester police said.

 

Assistant Chief Constable Garry Shewan said Merseyside police had arrested a 22-year-old man in Netherley, Liverpool under the Communications Act 2003.

 

The arrest is thought to be linked to a Facebook page that appeared to praise Dale Cregan, the man police arrested on suspicion of murder, for his alleged involvement in the killings. It also suggested he should be awarded an OBE. The 22-year-old was in police custody for questioning.

 

Shewan said: "In the last 48 hours, since the tragic death of our two officers, there has been a huge amount of support from the public through our website and on social media. However, there are also a small number of people who have posted malicious and upsetting comments online, causing outrage to many people and prompting them to ask us what we are doing to deal with these people."

 

He said police took reports of this nature very seriously, as demonstrated by the arrest.

 

Shewan said they had become "very aware of the derogatory and offensive comments", but the overwhelming message on social media remained one of support.

 

The overwhelming public reaction has been sympathetic to the police. An online book of condolence has attracted more than 25,000 messages from wellwishers. A Facebook page set up by the force has been viewed by more than a million people.

 

On Wednesday night a member of the public set up a Facebook page offering cover so Greater Manchester police officers could attend the funerals of Bone and Hughes. Shewan said he could not thank the public of Greater Manchester and the UK enough for their support and good wishes since Tuesday.

 

Shewan described Tuesday as the worst day in his policing career and said the force was still coming to terms with "the loss of two wonderful, first-class young officers". He said it would do everything it could to rid Greater Manchester of organised crime.

 

It would be wrong, he added, to portray Manchester as being in the middle of a gang war. "This would overestimate what we have got here: clearly two feuding criminal families."

 

He said "enough is enough", that Tuesday was a watershed moment that had to be the end. Over the last decade, gun crime has fallen in Manchester year on year. The force has witnessed the largest reduction in gun crime anywhere in the UK.

 

Meanwhile, the police dismissed reports that the gun used in Tuesday's shootings had been supplied by Steven Greenoe, an American who was jailed in the US for importing gun components to the UK. Greenoe, of Raleigh, North Carolina, bought the guns in the US, broke them up and hid them in his bags, before travelling to the north-west of England on commercial flights.

 

Earlier, the family and friends of Hughes and Bone paid tribute to their dedication and commitment to the job.

 

Hughes, 23, and Bone, 32, were shot while responding to a report of a burglary at Abbey Gardens, on the Hattersley estate in Mottram, shortly before 11am on Tuesday. A grenade was also used in the attack.

 

A minute's silence was held in honour of the officers on Wednesday.

 

Theresa May, the home secretary, described the murders as "savage acts of pure brutality", and said the victims were "brave and talented officers who were going about their everyday duties, doing what they do, day in, day out, protecting the public, fighting crime".

 

Postmortem examinations on the officers concluded that they died as a result of gunshot wounds.

 

Cregan, 29, handed himself in at a police station and was being questioned in connection with four murders: those of Hughes and Bone, and of Mark Short, 23, killed in May, and his father, David, 46, killed on 10 August.

 

Police were granted more time to question Cregan, giving them until Friday morning before he must be charged or released.

 

On Wednesday, a 28-year-old man, who has not been named, was arrested in the Hattersley area on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder. He was taken into police custody for questioning.

Guardian