A film named 'Innocence of Muslims' ignating rage across muslim world

[Bluelicious]

This is the video that caused all of this commotion:

 

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[wyre]

Lol @Blu

[Bluelicious]

wyre;869474 wrote:

Lol @Blu

Nothing good ever comes out of hate and violence it only creates more hate and violence. Every 9/11 it's the same drama Muslims get provoked and they react by killing so more hate and violence is created. People are not learning from their mistakes and therefore history keeps repeating itself.

[Nin-Yaaban]

Bluelicious;869482 wrote:

Nothing good ever comes out of hate and violence it only creates more hate and violence. Every 9/11 it's the same drama Muslims get provoked and they react by killing so more hate and violence is created. People are not learning from their mistakes and therefore history keeps repeating itself.

Too bad they haven't killed many more GAALO Qashin. Would've made my day Walahi.

[Nin-Yaaban]

Apophis;869499 wrote:

^^ You may yet get your wish...

 

Protesters try to storm German, British embassies in Sudan

 

(Reuters) - Sudan's police fired teargas on Friday to stop about 5,000 demonstrators storming the German and British embassies to protest against an anti-Islam film, a Reuters witness said.

 

Protesters hurled stones at the two embassies which are next to each other in Khartoum and tried storming the main gates, a witness said.

 

Source

Wrong embassies. UK/German had nothing to do with this video. They need to concentrate.

[Taleexi]

Islamic world need not to be reactionary.

[Yunis]

Yes - in first but, outward too, certainly those who made the film should be blamed for exercising their rights under their ‘government’. the liberty pillar of free expression without boundaries allowed such film to be dubbed during production, without actors knowledge and scripts changed all to provoke this type of reaction.

[BoldNewSomali]

Im offended that this trailer is even posted in this thread.

[Rumaysah]

Why do some Muslims feel okay about criticizing other Muslims, condemning them and scolding them with such harsh words like 'ignorant', 'bigots', 'cowards', '******', justifying it by saying: 'what they have done has nothing to do with Islam', only to say in the end: 'O non-Muslims, please forgive us'?!

 

Do they not know or realize that one of the qualities of those who love Allah and He loves them is that they are:

 

أذلة على المؤمنين أعزة على الكافرين

"...humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers..."

[Qur'an 5:54]

 

We should never be more ready to 'condemn' Muslims before we 'condemn' the disbelievers! Where is our self-dignity?

 

It would have been more befitting, more commendable, more appropriate for the Muslims to educate others about the ruling regarding the one who defames, curses, insults the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم), deriving examples of such instances from Seerah and the sayings of our classical scholars, like Ibn Taymiyyah.

 

It would have been closer to righteousness to direct the Muslims towards that action which must be taken:

 

Ibn Taymiyyah (رحمه الله) said:

”It is Wajib, it is mandatory to kill the one who curses the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) if there are any examples otherwise in Seerah it is because they have come to him and they have announced their Tawbah repentance) and they have become Muslims, but if they don’t then the Hukm (ruling) remains.

 

And this is evidence (referring to an incident from Seerah) that harming Allah and His Messenger is a reason to encourage Muslims to kill whoever does that even if they have a contract with the Muslims, even if there is a covenant!

 

After the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) passed away, we cannot forgive anyone. We can forgive people when they harm us, but not when they harm the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).”

[Maarodi]

BoldNewSomali;869541 wrote:

Im offended that this trailer is even posted in this thread.

I actually watched it for the very first time on this thread and I must say it's so retarded, low quality and overall outlandish that it shouldn't even get the reaction its getting. Muslims over-reacting about this crap is giving it an audience where normally they wouldn't have (like back in June/July when it first came out). Seriously, I couldn't watch it for 3 mins because of quality and the obvious voice-overs (because they duped the actors).

 

 

And for those saying we should kill people who curse the Prophet (pbuh) I think you need more education just as the people who made this disgusting video. Also we're being stern towards our brothers because they're the ones going around destroying people's properties and taking their lives when they had nothing to do with the production and publication of this video. The US gov't, German or British had nothing to do with this, why are they being attacked? I'm sorry but you have to get your facts straight and act in the best manner which is prescribed in the Quran and Sunnah and legal jurisprudence that come from them. The unbelievers aren't the ones killing, it's the Muslims.

 

Here's something Suhaib Webb said, "Normative books on Islamic law detail that representatives of foreign governments and their property should be treated with the highest respect. Instead of saying, "Why does Islam encourage this," reality would dictate, "Why are some Muslims so ignorant of their own faith and ethics?" (emphasis mine)

 

And I agree with him completely.

[Jacpher]

Apophis;869581 wrote:

The clip was tasteless, agreed, but I don't believe people should have their rights curtailed to appease others. If that happens you can be assured it will also affect Muslims. Their rights will also be curtailed to appease others. For me, being offended is an option a person exercises, most of the time I choose not to take that option.

You mean the young bearded Arab looking men that end up detained haven't had their freedom of speech/religion curtailed?

 

The story is getting more interesting. Reports now link the making of the film to a Christian charity group, anti-islam activist and a soft porn director. Interesting you've got an evangelical making hateful films about Muslims and producing porn films? So much for a christian.

 

Violence is never the answer. Why am I not surprised the media conveniently omits reporting the peaceful protestors, and the more populous Muslim countries that haven't had any protest at all. Do the protesting Muslims with violence make up 1% of Muslims? Here's the map.

 

 

Red indicates violent protests over the film, yellow indicates non-violent protests. Click to enlarge. (Wikimedia/Atlantic)

[Maarodi]

Violence is never the answer. Why am I not surprised the media conveniently omits reporting the peaceful protestors, and the more populous Muslim countries that haven't had any protest at all. Do the protesting Muslims with violence make up 1% of Muslims? Here's the map.

Exactly, that's why it was chosen on that date to get that reaction from the Muslims. They played right into their hands. Bait and provoke.

 

"56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion." (Source)

 

Here's Tariq Ramadan's take on the incident

 

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[Jacpher]

Apophis;869590 wrote:

When all "young bearded Arab looking men" are interned like the Japanese in WW2, all over the States, then you may have a point.

If your argument is "when all [young bearded Arab looking men] are interned like the Japanese in WW2, all over the States" in camps, then they have a valid point about freedom of speech/religion. Please save your attempts to deliver a sermon on people's rights and freedom.

 

Again, Arabs make up less than 13% of the Muslim world. I thought someone like you should have known that. And those violent flash points you see on the map are marginal numbers compared to the population there. Plus this offensive clip sat on Youtube for about two months before it got a dramatic coverage.

[Ibtisam]

http://www.inquisitr.com/330504/ambassador-stevens-was-raped-before-his-murder-reports-claim/

 

The article doing the rounds today.

[Mario B]

Heedless muslim [ a small minority I must add] always letting themselves down, It's time they took heed and listened to this ayah:-

 

Repel evil with that which is better. We[God] are best aware of that which they allege. (Quran 23:96)

 

Does a believer fight evil with evil, or insult with insult or rather fights evil with goodness, kindness and forgiveness?