SayidSomal Posted September 12, 2012 Why bother your brain with all that nonsensical document - as far as you should be concerned whoever hails from PL and occupies either of these posts is automatical more powerful than the other person occuping the other post. If (God forbid) people not from "the land of the gods" occupy both posts - then who cares waa isma dhaanto iyo dhasheed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted September 12, 2012 I was just reading the constitution and right now Somalia has no capital city lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 Ngone, xaaji..There is not one place the president can appoint or sack anyone without the PM. Its all over the dastuurka. I am not going to repost it. He doesnt appoint the ministers, ambassadors, deputies, or even the general the pm does. Asaa uu sheego qof la magacabayo si fican uu aqri. Wat i see occuring is the president is choosing his president. Thats what this dastuur is about Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 I think positive is the only person who realizes the seriousness of this document and it's implications. The rest of u have no clue what this means at all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted September 12, 2012 Dr Osman thinks that Somali politicians give a flying fig about a constitution. Quranka Kariimka ah ee lagu dhaariyo horta ma xushmeeyaan ayaa ka horeysa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted September 12, 2012 Dr_Osman;868416 wrote: Ngone, xaaji..There is not one place the president can appoint or sack anyone without the PM. Its all over the dastuurka. I am not going to repost it. He doesnt appoint the ministers, ambassadors, deputies, or even the general the pm does. Asaa uu sheego qof la magacabayo si fican uu aqri. Wat i see occuring is the president is choosing his president. Thats what this dastuur is about The president is choosing his President u got me confused there detoore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 Suldaanka;868418 wrote: Dr Osman thinks that Somali politicians give a flying fig about a constitution. Quranka Kariimka ah ee lagu dhaariyo horta ma xushmeeyaan ayaa ka horeysa. They dont have to give a fuk about the constitution but that will also mean theyre out of a job and broke the law. Its not about who cares and who dont but if u break the constitution, that can be shown to the u.n and u have no leg to stand on to keep your position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 hadee xaaji the president doesnt appoint anyone without the PM telling him who to appoint. He cant sack anyone without the PM approval. These are executive orders my friends and they lie with the prime minister. So its like the people vote for the president thinking he is the executive because somalis have that mindframe even I did untill i read the document but once inside the government he then secretly chooses the boss WHO has the executive power the PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted September 12, 2012 lol@president choosing his president wonder what the good dr will say the day people choose their president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 Yo xaji can u explain why if the president seat is vacant the speaker can assume the role but if the pm seat is vacant the whole government collapses and noone can just assume the role? maybe because its the executive and alot of damage can be done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted September 12, 2012 Dr_Osman;868416 wrote: Ngone, xaaji..There is not one place the president can appoint or sack anyone without the PM. Its all over the dastuurka. I am not going to repost it. He doesnt appoint the ministers, ambassadors, deputies, or even the general the pm does. Asaa uu sheego qof la magacabayo si fican uu aqri. Wat i see occuring is the president is choosing his president. Thats what this dastuur is about You don't have to repost it dee. The word "recommendation" is found all over the document. Do you understand what the word means? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Oo Kulan La Yeeshay Madaxweynihii Hore Ee Soomaaliya Notice noone is calling him madaxa dawlada somalia. Because he isn't dawlada thats the executive. His the president of the state and a symbol to the people is really the presidency role in this constitution. Anyways simon did u read the link I posted. Its interesting aint it, im still delving through it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted September 12, 2012 ^to him it is an amalgamation of Order and Command. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 You all are not attacking the issue but attacking me which I sense means you haven't any rebuttals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted September 12, 2012 Wuxuu xilka ka qaadayaa Wasiirrada, Wasiiru-dawleyaasha, iyo Wasiir-ku-xigeennada, markuu soo jeediyo Wasiirka Koowaad. Wuxuu magacaabayaa jagooyinka sare ee Xukuumadda Federaalka iyo madaxda Hey’adaha Dawladda Federaalka, marka uu soo jeediyo Golaha Wasiirradu. Haddii uu bannaanaado xafiiska Madaxweyne, waxaa qabanaya xilka Guddoomiyaha Golaha Shacabka ilaa laga soo dooranayo Madaxweyne cusub muddo aan ka badnayn soddon (30)maalmood gudahood. Xil banneeynta jagada Ra’iisul-Wasaaraha oo sababaysa dhicitaanka Golaha Wasiiradda, waxay ku imaan kartaa istiqaalad, xil ka qaadid, xil gudasho la’aan iyo geeri. Wuxuu magacaabaa Taliyeyaasha Ciidammada Heer Federaal iyo ka qaadista xilalkooda, markii ay soo jeediyaan Golaha Wasiirradu,. Wuxuu magacaabaya jagooyinka danjireyaasha iyo qunsuliyadaha guud, markuu Golaha Wasiirradu soo jeediyo. Come on guys stop being clowns Not one place in the constitution does it say prime minister ayaa talo ka sugo madaxweynaha lol. Its always the always around. I hope the somalis dont catch up on this like faysal ali waraabe did lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites