Nur Posted December 20, 2003 NOMADS I want to share with you some of my old posts I posted on other forums and Somalinet, they are rather long, so read only when you have time or print them an read them in train or bus, in case you have not read them, you may find them very infromative on multiple areas such as islam or politics, so enjoy them. An Intimate Discussion, Satan and NUR, An imaginary discussion full of insights and ideas. Enjoy reading, Satan is. MOCK DIALOGUE WITH SATAN. Nur: Hello Satan Satan: Hello Nur, Nur: How ar you feeling today, Ibliis? Satan: Miserable, your are burning me with Dhiker, I am tired following you around, I am envious of my othher Devil friends who are assigned to other viewers on this board, they eat with them, drink with them, they have fun together, and even, they go to bed with them, oops, some of Satan's babies are around. Nur: Tell me Satan, what your Devil friends are telling you about their human buddies. Satan: Nur I am not supposed to be telling you this, but if your promise to stop your dhiker, I may tell you. Nur: You know Satan, Allah SWT honored man and gave him superior intellect and made him second only to Allah, that is why you were supposed to bow down in respect to Adam,. I also read somewher that your race, the Satan, have the IQ of a four year old human boy, can you tell me how you manage to mislead millions of people with such limited intellectual capabilities. Satan: Nur, you know the answer, why ask me, wake up pal, look up to this board, filth sells more than wisdom, your people the Somalis specially have this false pride called tribalsim, their heads are above the clouds and they have no concrete reason to do so, I love them, because they obey me. Nur: Tell me what is your main strategy for the Somalis. Satan: You see Nur, I have a general strategy for all mankind, and I have regional plans, Racial plans, Traibal plans and individual plans, where do you want me to start. Nur: I subsribe to the bottom-up school of Management, let it on me, start your plans for the individual Somalis, then their tribes, then Somali nation and finally the human race in general. Satan: You see Nur, I am not offering the individual Somali something Allah can not give him, but I made them believe that, I whisper to them that " if you become decent, you can't go far in this life " , so for fear of poverty, insecurity and love to live longer than what is in the books for them, is their weak points and there is where I hit hard like Prince Naseem working on an injured boxing opponent. The same strategy that got humans thrown out of paradise to begin with, we are using the same strategy, and humans never learn, we promise them wealth, but they live in poverty, we promise than long life, they kill each other in civil wars, we promise tham happiness, they fill mental hospitals, Humans, Humans, I love them, Nur your people are great. Nur: Go on yaa Ibliis, more clarification on waht you just said. Satan: You see Nur, your granfather and my grandfather were enemies, as you know, we used to think that our Race the Satan race was the superior race Allah created, up until one day, Allah asked my grandfather to bow down to your grandgather. Can you imagine Allah asking your Reer Qurac to bow down to Reer Qansax? yes, Nur, do not sigh, that is how we Satans felt, we felt terrible, a reer Qurac man would say, I will never bow down to a reer Qansax man, even if I have to go to hell, your Somali proverb is a testament to that " Wadaad Reerkii kama janno tago" it means, if his Qabiil go to hell, the wadaad has to go with his people, and that is your problem NUR, you are trying to please evryone here, hepl Reer Qurac, why worry about Reer Qansax, that is why lately you even lost some of your supporters. When Our grandfather refused to bow down to your grandfather, That day, an eternal enemity was declared, between us and mankind, my grandfather instilled in us never to make peace with man, and we have never disobeyed our grandpa ever since, while you have disobeyd Allah. Nur: But Allah sent prophets to warn us against you, so how come you are still doing a brisk business and a successful project. Satan: When Muhammad SAWS was sent, we really became allarmed, here is a man who made sense and could bring warring parties in Medina together, he even brought entire civilizations together, this man was dangerous in any way you measure him. The love of wealth, longevity and intoxication with power are but some of our arsenal against Islam, the toughest challenge to our goal. For example, the intoxication with power and supremacy, which is our Satanic trait, remember that is why we refused to bow down to a human in the first place. My grandfathers started a tribal war in Arabia 2000 years ago, that lasted for 40 years, the war began when we tempted two tribes to get into horse race, one of the horses was called al Daaxis, the other Al Ghabraa. to make a long story short, a horse won by cheating, and the rider got killed, after that our job was done for the next forty years, we sat back and laughed at these ****** humans killing the sh.. out of each other. Nur: That explains whatt is happening with Somali tribes, I am sure you are laughing at us, but, this time you have a problem, because I am puting on my gloves and will burn you with dhiker and my Company NURTEL NEETWORKS will expose your plans to the Somali public, until you drop dead. Now where will you go? Satan: Nur , take it easy man, I have a locked-in on Somalis thought process, specially Somalinet bigots, I say and they obey, what more can I ask, and hey , look here Nur, how much they insult you while you are trying to help them, they take me for their friend and they hate you, even INTRUDER who was kind to you now, has thrown his hat in the arena of NUR haters club. A wound on a dead person does not heal, Nur , you are wasting your time, leave these people alone and go pray in a small Mawlac ( mosque) making thiker and seclude , that way you save your own skin, but these rascalls, I will take care of them for you, they are in good hands, misery likes company and I will take them with me, Hell should not be a lonely place for my race, I need as many humans as possible to come with me. If hitory is any indication, I am on target and under budget. Nur: No way, Jose, that is how you marginalized many scholars, not attempting to change evil on earth is more dangerous to my faith than being rediculed, why do you think prophets suffered so much, Allah even warned our Prophet Muhammad SAWS not to to take your advice of seclusion from society, I read a verse in the Quraan, Suuratul Jinn Allah says To Muhammad SAWS: " Say, no one will come to my aid to protect me from Allah, nor will I find a sanctuary ( to escape Allah's wrath) unless ( I involve myself in) delievring his (warnings) and messages" The prophet SAWS taught us Rough translation " The Muslim who patiently mingles with people ( teaching them their faith) and can take the heat is better than the Muslim who does not mingle with people and who can not take the heat" so do not sweet talk me you evil one. Nur: Satan, I am going to pray now, our discussion will continue, I have a lot of questions in my head, go to sleep. Satan : Nur, Satan does not sleep, we have a job to do, and a time frame in which to deliver, I can not let my boss down, Big Ibliis is going to question me on my deliverables, he is keen on results see you in the mosque during your prayer, I have some business ideas for you while are praying, man, do I have some business plan, it will keep you away from these boards, then you can drtink as much camel milk as you can in your tribal enclave of Qurac Dheer. To be contiued. NUR 2003 NURTEL NEETWORKS A (NUR un CALAA NUR) Department Prodution Episode two: Nur: Satan, what have you been up to, in addition to your business proposal in the third Rakaa of my prayers today? Satan: I knew you'd like my business ideas, I was after your prayer credits, but I got your attention in the third Rakaa, my ideas are awsome, aren't they? Nur: OK, OK, Money and sex sure attract mankind, now let me ask you this, how do you access our mental functions, I am puzzled, sometimes, wierd ideas cross my mind and I know for sure that they are yours, like that day when I was waiting for the train and this lady walked up to stand right infront of me? like two centimeters away from my nose? Satan: Nice legs huh? Nur: I must admit that the lady was attractive, but it is not halal. Satan: You see Nur, my Satan buddy who is assigned to that young lady and I work as a team on wadaads like you, we figure if we can get one wadaad down, we can mislead many others, so, although I am a liar by nature, take this one from me, Nur, you are a priority target, I warned you. Nur: Satan, , The good looking lady served a good purpose, like future attractions, a reminder of what could be in store for me in the next life if I hold my horses, which with the help of Allah I did. Yaa malcuun, the pleasure I usually get obeying Allah can never be matched by any of your offers, it is all up here (brain) yaa malcuun, and I will guard myself against you with continous dhiker, that is my fortress, Allah said that you have no control over his true servants, your control is over those whose faith is in a disorder, so go try and make my day, I will burn you with Dhiker, Acuudubillahi mina sheitani al rajiim. Satan: Please do not burn me, I will answer the question straight this time. You see Nur, coming back to your question on how I access the inner workings of the human thought process, here is how we do it. Our nature is different than yours, we are made from fire, and we reside and operate in a dimension that you can not sense due to your nature, but, we can sense you, see you and feel you, we can even access your inner system corrupting your files and copying our messages to your system files, that is why you can not differentiate if what pops in your head is indeed your idea or Satans, the only way to tall the differense is through a benchmark. Nur: Go on, Satan, what is that benchmark? Satan: If the thought is in line with the revelation, Quraan and Sunnah, that is yours, if not, then is mine, that is why all my followers hate Quran and Sunnah, the minute they here it, they become annoyed, I have corrupted their files. Nur: What happens when I make dhiker? Satan: Dhiker is like a firewall, as long as you make dhiker, we stay away from you, the minute you forget, we log on. Remember the verse in Quraan " Wa man yacshu can dhikri Arraxmaani Nuqayidh lahu sheitaanan, fa huwa lahu qariin" And if we find the person forgetful of Allah for a long time, we take control of their processors, encripting our codes in them and finally managing them remotely, that person ends up to become one of our soldiers, some of them become so clever, they teach me a lesson or two, like those bigots who annoy you in these Somalinet Forum boards, Like Allah said in Quraaan " Wa innahum la yasudduunahum canilsabili wa yaxsabuuna annahum muhtaduun" And from time to time we update their files with the latest versions of (Ghiwaayah Software). Nur: What is Ghiwaayah? Satan : Ghiwaayah is a navigation software that we designed to guide mankind away from Siraatul Mustaqeem ( straight path) , we usually install this software at the front, left side, right side, the back and the bottom of the human victim's comprehension motor, and no matter which way the vitim responds, our system guides them, away from Siratul Mustaqeem. Nur: Wait, wait, you did not mention the TOP, why not install your Ghiwayah Software on top of their comprehension motors? Satan: The top of the compreshension motor is reserved to the heavens, it is where Siratul Mustaqeem signals are received, anyone who points his antennas up to Allah is protected from us, we have no control over these humans, even if we try to intefere with these heavenly signals, we get burned by high speed commets, are you crazy man? Nur: So what you are telling me is that you have installed your Ghiwaayah software on many people, what I see in these boards are your cloned humans who are speaking your words after you have taken control over their comprehension motors? and you are working on the rest? Satan: That is right, Nur, but it is not an easy job, compared to yours in fighting me, all you have to remember is your dhiker and you are home free , gardens of Eden are waiting for you at the end of your hardship, but I also work hard, along with those whom I mislead, and we all end up in hell, don't your remember the vesre in Quraan " Caamilatun Naasibah, Taslaa Naaran Xaamiyah " Different endings, but same hard work for all of us. Nur: Acuudu Billahi mina sheitaani Rajiim To be continued......... 2003 NURTEL NEETWORKS Nurun Calaa Nur, Department Production, all rights not reserved. Episode three Satan's Dialogue with Nur continued.... Satan: Hi Nur, rough week here? Nur: not quite Satan, I was careful not to fall for any of your tricks. Satan: Like what? Nur: Like your suggestion to fight Cilmiile and company on a point by point and not to let my friends down? Satan: Why not, your dignity is important? Nur: Yes, but, swallowing my pride for the sake of Islam is even more prestigious in the eyes of Allah. I could have answered Cilmiile point by point, but, honestly, I felt better to fold it altogether and make peace, instead of creating a standoff after which, my losses would have outnumbered my winning in real terms of what counts in next life, so I chose the best policy, honesty. Satan: you know Nur, if my grandfather was as humble as you are, I would have been in paradise today. Nur: I heard that your grandfather Ibliis once offered to repent to Allah, when he asked Prophet Moses to help him to get reistated as a repentant. What happened? Satan: Moses talked to Allah and told him that Satan wants to repent. Nur: What did Allah say? Satan: Allah said , Satan knows Adams's grave, let him go there and Bow down in respect for Adam. Nur: That was a great chance, why didn't you take that chance? Satan: Nur, you are naive, how can I bow for a dead Adam, when I refused to bow down for him when he was alive? Nur: You are hopeless, and astonishingly, many humans are as stubborn as you are, they say in a Somali proverb: " Rag ciil cadaab ka dooray" " A real man chooses to go to hell, instead of compromising with an enemy and suffering humiliation, anger and hate" Nur: Talk to you later, yaa malcuun. 2003 NURTEL NEETWORKS Episode Four Discussion Continued ( SATAN versus Nur) Nur: Hello Satan Satan: Hi Nur Nur: What have you done to the boards while I was away you despicable creature? Satan: Nur, business is business, take it easy, if you leave your flocks, I inflame their wounds, so they can throw with rocks at each other and at you. Nur: Now let me get this staright, as long as good people are around showing the positive side of human nature, your followers influence diminshes, and when good people tale it to the boards, scumbags go away, is that what happens? Satan: Let me tell you an old story Nur. When Allah created Adam, the angels wondered why was Allah creatring man, specially if man has a nature to spill blood and cause evil on earth. Allah told them that he knows that which the angels did not know. Allah knew that man has also another side, benevolent, kind and caring, unlike our Demonic nature of evil only, and the Angelic nature of only good. So this past week when some 3 million Muslim Pilgrims gathered in Makkah for the worship and remembrance of Allah, to my nightmare, it is said that Allah called all the angels to show off this great gathering with pride how his servants are steadfast in his worship and love, millions of worshippers with tears in their eyes, sorry that they have not lived up to their covenant with Allah, and further promising to go back as born again belivers. This is really bothering me Nur, this is dangerous, specially when they throw at me the symbolic rocks in jamaraat Minaa. Many nations races and tribes come together in Minaa, not preoccupied with the physical bonds that binds them, rather, the unseen spritual bond that binds them eternally. This can demolich all my plans. Here is a European Muslim Pilgrim, a Chinese Muslim a Nigerian Mulsim, an Arab Muslim and even a Jewish Muslim, all brothers in faith. They make me very lonely. I hate to see them this close to each other. On a smaller scale, Every year, Somalis Pilgrims share the same tents in Minaa, regardless of their tribal affiliations. It is common to hear stories like this: A lost weak Ugaadh Obokor, Issaq man being helped by a wacbuudhan ****** woman whoo cooks for him a hot meal, until she finds a Warsangale, ******* group who take care of him and feed him like their real brother. Or a young ****** girl nursing an Old ******* woman who have raised her as an orphan, and now, the way she serves the old woman is like her real mother. Or an Issaaq pilgrims group collecting money for a Mogadishu based humanitarian agency. Nur: So that is what worries you? Satan: How can I feel comfortable when people forget all their hatred and problems for few days and focus on being good and doing good, if I allow this, I will not have any business left. Nur: Do you mean if you were not influencing humans that all of huumans wouyld have chosen to follow the right path? Satan: That is correct, our influence on the human soul is like gravity to human body, it pulls them down. ( Wa laakinnahu akhlada ilal ard) Quraan. So, just like how a space rocket scapes gravity, humans need to lighten up their loads ( money, pride,etc) to power their boosters to reach the heavens. But, while some wadaads like you are trying to set the rocket engines up for flight, I make sure that I influence the ignorant masses to keep them pined to the ground with me and later take them down to lower hell. I love them, because they take me for a friend. Nur: I need to rest, talk to you later yaa malcuun Satan: I can not rest, and I will not allow you to rest, for starters, your agenda is full this week, you need to touch on many issues of business , so make sure that you work hard on your business initiatives, it is better for you to leave this board and focus on your business, someone else can help preach here with lesser opportunity cost, why do you have to waste your valuable time, you know how much money you could make if you implement that project that you shelved a while back? you time is better served when youn take care of your worldly interests, I am advicing you Nur. Nur: I knew all along that you present 99 good logical arguments so I can take from you one really poisonous advice like this one. I will not tale your advice, ever, Inshaallah. ...........Continued. 2003 NURTEL Communications We Light up your boards Episode five; Satan and Nur Dialague to contiue...... Nur: Yaa malcuun, what have you been up to lately? Satan: If you stop cursing me and making thiker I can tell you a lot of useful things. Nur: In our last discussion you've told me that you have many plans for humans, beginning with the personal level all the way to national level, I am curious, when I look at the news coverage, I am bewildered of the escalations war in the mideast and the continuing bloodshed in our homeland, I hear that even Puntland is going down the drain as a fierce power struggle is brewing up in this relatively peaceful enclave along the Indian Ocean, what is going on yaa sheitaan. Satan: You see Nur, it is all about priorities, when priorities get screwed up, people would not know what is critical, necessary, needed, desired or liked. So when you go after something that is desired and neglect something that is critical, failures of Monmouth proportions take place. Let me give you an example, the other day when you were standing in front of one of the stores in the Mall, you heard a loud bang, do you know what it was? Two thieves working on a shopper were distracting the shopper to look at the source of the loud sound and neglect guarding her purse, as soon as she focused her attention to the sound ( least of her priorities) the thief stole her purse. Likewise, most people have made their faith the least important driver of their actions and interest, and made Allah the least significant observer and evaluator of their behavior, as a result , people's actions today are driven by greed, false pride which intoxicates the mind to desire power at any cost, only to see it slipping away from his reach and the cycle of misery begins after they learn lessons that nations before them have failed to understand. But it is human nature that they never learn, and it is our Satanic responsibilities to help the humans serve each other a taste of hell on earth, before they join Satan in hell as a resting area. Nur: Do you mean the civil war is Somalia and the nascent tribalist hate culture to be a distracting tactic? Satan: What else could it be? These ****** people's priority should've been for them to live up to the purpose of their creation, failure in that regard is critical to their happiness on this life and detrimental to their eternal happiness or sorrow. To see how ****** they are, just see hopw much of their resources ( Time, Money etc) serving this hallucination. As Satan, I amde sure that they make me their friend, and Islam their Enemy, and I have further made them hate people like you, Nur, who bombard them with advice and common sense , thus spoiling their party, People just wanna have a little fun, and you Wadaads, are too boring, Satan is offering them very interesting products, power intoxication, Sex and a lot of laughter and bigotry, all of which makes them well in Satan's grasp and control. Nur: Tell me about the leaders of these tribal feuds in our homeland. Satan: Boy o Boy, do I have some sobering news, these guys you call leaders are very interesting, Satan has a lock on their central processing units, Satan programs them and, they think that they are doing the best deeds, that is how far they have slipped away from the right path, just like we Satans have done before them. You see, Nur, if you observe one of the " Leaders" day activities, it will tell you a lot of what they really worship, wishy washy and dilly dallying across all of the ideas of the hour and delivering nothing but ruin to their people at the end of the day. These leaders have one thing in common, love of life on earth, pride, and lust for power. On the contrary, helping the poor, doing justice on earth, reaching out to educate the ignorant are not their priorities, and most important Allah is not who they fear, rather, they fear their sponsors whose orders they carry out like slaves. When they refused to be brothers in faith to each other to keep their chins high with dignity of Islam , they became slaves for others who enjoy their annihilation and destruction, as a result, some Somali families who used to boast to be noble and honorable are suffering social image stains after some of their women began selling their bodies in the countries they have emigrated to in Africa, Arabia, and Europe. Somali Prostitutes in North America are dubbed " Cheap and Clean" quite an accomplishment of your " Tribal Leaders" Nur: Wait a minute, are you suggesting humans are as evil as Satan? Satan: It all depends, Nur. Those who live up to their covenant with Allah are definitely better than us, but those who obey Satan instead of Allah, on the other hand , those who fail to obey Allah, and instead obey Satan, these are not as bad as Satan, they are worse. You see Nur, we Satan refused to bow down to Allah, as a symbol of submission to Allah and accepting the supremacy of Mankind above Satan, on the other hand , Mankind was so honored by Allah that he was asked to bow down to Allah alone, instead, we find mankind driven by lust, and is controlled by us Satan to do all the evil we want him to do, so in that way we are far better than these humans, you get the point? Nur: Yeah, it is sad, why are you telling me all this if you are our enemy? Satan: Because I know that it will not change things a bit, humans do not listen, or learn, when they listen, they do not act on the advice, when they act, they forget to focus on their priorities, which makes my Job easy. Now if you excuse me, I have to go to the Gulf, I am distracting the attention of Billions of mankind whose sighgts are fixed over oil, power, and land, forgetting all along that man was not meant to stay on this planet for long. What a great show? 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