Somaliland Is Suffering From AIDS! But There is a Cure and Hope!

[Mario B]

No country got rich from Aid, Somalis should wean themselves from this sloth inducing habit. If we can't help ourselves, then maybe it's best to accept infrastructure aid for things that we can repair and service or budgetary support for education and health.

 

I believe this type of aid is more useful.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19351396

[AYOUB]

The Alpha delivers again. Great topic, my friend (even though I agree with oldman NG, the title is awful.) Change to something like SL and Aid Dependency bla bla..

 

PS Don't make a stunt of yourself by resigning. Stay put and work for change from within/out.

 

PPS Looking forward to the day your healthy cynicism - well, more than healthy when compared to a certain SOL old man - tackles the Khat manace epidemic.

[Alpha Blondy]

*Ibtisam;860878 wrote:

I hate NGOs too. I hate those silly reports they write even more and their overuse of buzz words that mean jackshiid. Most of all I dislike some of the people who work for NGOs, who endless moan about backward people, how cleaver they are, how much scarifies they are making for being paid to fill out justifications forms, reports and heaven forbid meet few locals (as suppose to them being jobless in the west).

 

Down down with the NGO business for it is nothing more than money making business, with the lion share, shared out in Kenya and the few Somalis here getting the crumbs to justify their existence.

 

Not one NGO has an exit strategy for when they are no longer need, each one needs to write how bad Somalia/ Somaliand is to justify their presence, their RnR paid holidays and pay grade for working in a war zone etc

 

Yep- NGOs and their workers probably pray for instability and chaos, so their donor keeps flowing, their projects sustained and payment to increase.

 

P.s. There are some exceptions but they tent to have their own agend- mainly religous, but they are a lot smaller and more effective.

 

The NDP is good,but a very tall order to achieve!

i love how you're being a complete hyprocrite IBZ!

 

you are the biggest NGO sympathiser alive and against bottoms-up grass-rooted sustainable development supported by a selected few. there are many of which you are certainty the biggest devil who are pillaging this country of its precious resources and would gladly hand it to your white pay masters!

 

how despicable!

[Alpha Blondy]

Apophis;860930 wrote:

Yes "kick them out" but if you want to find jobs for the young people the country will have to start exporting more than Goats and Camels. Also far worse than "AIDS" is the diaspora money which creates a culture of "boqol dollar iisoodir" leading to idleness. Ban that too.

yes! kick them out...

 

we've suffered for far too long living on handouts and dependency! what this country needs is more trade/business-oriented growth! this will give us a way out of this quagmire.

 

business MUST be encouraged and there should be inducements packages that will attracted FDI. the govt must tax heavily and proportionally. privatise and take a controlling share/ golden share of 24% of all stated owned enterprises. more public-private partnerships MUST be implemented. this govt must intervene in the market more as left to its own devices, we will witness even more negative externalities. migration must be controlled and a policy of regional development must occur in the periphery. high growth and high job creation type sectors MUST be given a priority. NGOs must be strictly regulated. there should more taxation against NGOs/INGOs.

 

'hot money' or diaspora money must be strictly controlled ensuring that there is consistency in currency values.

[Ibtisam]

Alpha.

 

I know you are trying to socodiisi your thread but please use other means rather than resorting to calling me devil and hypocrite (I never justify cantrabaqash).

 

As for this hogwash you advise- you clearly have limited understanding of developing economies and Somaliland political relations (go beyond the clan lines) otherwise you would not advise on the one hand govt must tax heavily and proportionally and government market control which in layman terms means scaring away business and investments.

 

Somaliland does not need more control, and heavy taxation will make it more prone to corruption, in the absence of legal and enforcements to support and ensure fair and transparent implementing system.

 

You forget Somaliland is where it is at today because the private sector carries it- in education, in business, in politics, in health- punishing that same sector not only stumps growth- particularly the growing new business, but it is also ungrateful way to deal with the sector that carries the most weight.Since the government and political parties collate their wealth and their campaign money from those same private sector businesses- it is not very likely.= wax fahaan as NGonge would say

 

Now, let me be patronising and say- FOCUS dear- separate the NGO and the private sector.

 

P.s. As for the bottom up yad yad yad- your understanding of that is supporting local NGOs set up by the Diaspora. I don’t like this “gaalaad ka so qaada” mentality that people employ. Stealing is stealing- make your own bloody money without ciidna ka so qaadin. I believe local NGOs are even more corrupt, they don’t even pretend not to be corrupt.

 

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Ha ii raadsan warya, naga haad with your cantrabaqash.

[Carafaat]

People pay taxes in Somaliland?

[Ibtisam]

I use to pay 10% when I was full time employed. Now as self employeed, I am to fill a tax return form when I've been active for a year. 10% is nothing compared to Western countries- but the salaries are a lot lower so it makes sense to tax according to people means.

[Alpha Blondy]

*Ibtisam;861611 wrote:

I use to pay 10% when I was full time employed. Now as self employeed, I am to fill a tax return form when I've been active for a year. 10% is nothing compared to Western countries- but the salaries are a lot lower so it makes sense to tax according to people means.

^

 

10%?

 

is this when you worked for silaanyo's national bank? lol!

 

the minister of works and social affairs have my details why haven't they taxed me aniga?

[Khadafi]

How come no one mentions those mooching Xawaalada, The Black NGO´s of Somalia Wallahi been seeing people that have lived on remittance money for over 20 years. Reerka/tolka waa la caawiya not to a extent that they become dependant or simpy to LAZY to work!

 

Alpha lets begin with black NGO:s of Somalia.

[Ibtisam]

^^^You can't blame your families problems and laziness on a business. IT is like an alcoholic blaming grapes for his problems.

 

Wait; you work for all the foreign agents and you dont pay taxes yet you are here going about increases taxes and getting rid of foreign agencies!.

 

Islan faadida legdaan la fudud.

 

If you really want to pay taxes, I could tip them off about your ridiculous tax-less wages!

[Juxa]

how can the country propper unless everyone pays tax

 

ibti why did you not tell me meesha in tax free tahay marhore?

[Abu-Salman]

It is interesting that raising taxes and internal revenues is now advocated as I have been fascinated for a while about the possibilities open if seriously done.

 

Of course, taxes should be ideally at least as high as top Western rates and targeted (specific sectors being treated leniently for socio-economic reasons: small farmers or struggling labor-intensive sectors).

Eg, anyone earning more than minimal income ($2000/year) may be spared with increasing marginal rates from 5 to 50% or more.

Whole cash-cows sectors that produce "easy money" or make use of public goods such as Telecoms need to be either wholly nationalised, part controlled by the state or at the very least heavily regulated: this is to ensure the well-connected or rent seekers that do not pursue risks or pro-poor, labor intensive investments should at the very least pay for their use of public assets such as airwaves.

 

This era of easy profits at the expense of the masses lacking the very basics must draw to an end.

 

In that light, urgent social targets and concomitant necessary spending levels should be the priority (eg financing primary care, litteracy, targeted food subsidies and infrastructure); minimally, costs of $100 per capita are to be expected (current budget needs to be roughly doubled and expenditures focused away from officials to essential services delivery). The aim is to gradually triple those commitments over say a period of 10 to 20 years depending on many factors.

Of course, with elites and traders running the show and using clan cards, all that is unlikely short of a socialist or islamic revolution.

[Cawaale]

Alpha, this disease is not exclusive to Somaliland. Its broader and one would assume it's in the genes. Adigu what did you do about NGOs Corruption to fight this AIDS thing?

[NGONGE]

*Blessed;861032 wrote:

We don't have to be beggars, Ayeeyo.

I know we don't. However, needs must. The Alpha & Ibti ideas are mere dreams that may improve the situation but not get rid of the problem altogether. Besides, does it not strike you as some sort of "Aniga og" one upmanship on the part of Alpha and his like?

[Ibtisam]

^You can't get rid of NGO- just better controlled and managed so they do what you need doing rather than random short term things. Even in the UK NGO exist to work according to a plan and structure. LEss wastage, corruption and better use of aid.

 

@ Cawaale ^^^^Nothing, he turns blind eye and would says gaaladouba iinkabaad bey xaadan!

 

Juxa, eeer I pay tax- it is not tax free- just relys on honest and people declaring their income and willingness to pay tax. It is not fully enforced- unless you are a company.

 

You need to pay registration every year and it would cost you more if you have not done your tax return come renewly date. OF course if you dont tell them you work or your details or your income then no asks you to pay anything.