MoonLight1 Posted August 20, 2012 This is a big blow for the Khaatumo project and a boost for Dabagooye and Cameey. C/Kariim Jaamac former information minister and one of the founders of Khaatumo is missing on the list. 1) Caali Khaliif Galeyr. 2) Saada Cali Warsame. 3) C/Lahi Xasan Dhooble 4) C/Risaaq Max'ed Yusuf. 5) Cabdi Max'ed Cali 6) Cabdi Cabdulahi Max'ed 7) C/Waaxid C/Lahi Jamac 8) Siyaad Max'ud Shire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 20, 2012 Faroole got those 3 seats for the real people of the region, the once with heart, I wonder what Khaliif the Thief will do now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted August 20, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;858454 wrote: I always knew saado was a politician but will she stop singing now Ngogne saado defected long time ago just six months after keyse defected Yes. But is it as the guys above say or is it the usual "sub clan" disputes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 20, 2012 moonlight i think there was disagreement among garaads of who to pick cabdikariim or galeyr and i think galeyr finally won. galeyr has support of two garaad jaamacs. the other garaads don't care much for him so finally there was compromise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted August 20, 2012 Somalia;858470 wrote: Faroole got those 3 seats for the real people of the region, the once with heart, I wonder what Khaliif the Thief will do now! Don't worry about what Dr. Ali Khaliif will do now, worry about Faroole fool (the pirate) and the C/Wali the corrupt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 20, 2012 'Liibaan';858475 wrote: Don't worry about what Dr. Ali Khaliif will do now, worry about Faroole fool (the pirate) and the C/Wali the corrupt. Abdiweli is now corrupt, yaa allah, I feel sorry for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted August 20, 2012 MoonLight1;858460 wrote: This is a big blow for the Khaatumo project and a boost for Dabagooye and Cameey. C/Kariim Jaamac former information minister and one of the founders of Khaatumo is missing on the list. 1) Caali Khaliif Galeyr. 2) Saada Cali Warsame. 3) C/Lahi Xasan Dhooble 4) C/Risaaq Max'ed Yusuf. 5) Cabdi Max'ed Cali 6) Cabdi Cabdulahi Max'ed 7) C/Waaxid C/Lahi Jamac 8) Siyaad Max'ud Shire. A/Karim Jama the special translator of Sharif Ahmed is out... This is a big blow to Ala Shiekh. Galayr will have a tough time what ever he might try to do.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted August 20, 2012 Somalia;858478 wrote: Abdiweli is now corrupt, yaa allah, I feel sorry for you. According to UN Report , Abdiweli is corrupt ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted August 20, 2012 'Liibaan';858482 wrote: According to UN Report , Abdiweli is corrupt ! You are waging an all out war, what power eh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted August 20, 2012 Open Letter To Mr. Ban Ki Moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations- Subject: Abuse of the Selection of Somali Parliamentarians- From: The Traditional Elders of KHaatumo State of SOmalia Garad Jama Garad Ali Garad Suleiman Garad Mohamed Garad Jama Garad Ismail Garad Abdullahi Garad Soofe Sultan Said Osman Ali Garad Abshir Salah Mohamed Ugaas Abdullahi Isse Nur Garad Ali Buraale Hassan Garad Abdi Salaam Hassan Mohamed Garad Mohamed Osman Mashgare Garad Suleiman Buraale Ugaas Farah Mohamed Ali As you know, your Excellency, Somalia is now approaching the end of the transitional period In line with the provisions of the Roadmap for Somalia, the primary responsibility for what to replace the transitional set up was entrusted to proven Somali traditional leaders assembled for this purpose in Mogadishu representing their respective clans. The first task of the assembled traditional leaders was, inter alia, to select the delegates of the National Constituent Assembly, deliberate on the draft constitution, and then adopt it once supported by majority vote. Their second task was to select the allotted members of parliament based on the 4.5 classifications of Somali clans in Somalia. A committee of arbitration to mediate inter and intra clans disputes was also put in place. This process that was assigned only to the clan traditional elders assembled in Mogadishu was supposed to be free from any outside interference, whether from the Traditional Federal Government (TFG), regional administrations, foreign governments and above all your Special Representative, Ambassador Augustine Mahiga. These arrangements established for the traditional elders in Mogadishu have been working reasonably well up until now. What we now face is a gratuitous crisis hatched by the president of the Puntland State of Somalia, Mr Abdirahman Froole, when he challenged at the meeting of the signatories of the Roadmap in Nairobi (6 August) the manner the clan elders present in Mogadishu distributed the parliamentary seats allotted to them as SSC clan hailing from the Khatumo State of Somalia (based on the Sool, Sanaag and Cayn regions in north west Somalia). The fact that the SSC Clan of Khatumo State belong to different clan and regions from those of President Faroole, should have persuaded him that he has no right or business to involve himself with their affairs. All the recognized Khatumo traditional leaders that selected the Constituent Assembly delegates are currently present in Mogadishu and they are the ones mandated to represent the SSC clan in Mogadishu by the Council of elders, the highest body in the structure of the Khatumo State. Without cause or justification, Mr Faroole granted himself the prerogative to choose some of Khatumo members of Parliament. Apart from president Shariif Ahmed and the AHLU SUNA representative, who walked out of the meeting in protest against this flagrant shenanigans against the Khatumo people, what is incomprehensible is that some co-signatories, and of all people your own UN Special Representative, Ambassador Augustine Mahiga, stood by and supported Faroole's brazen demand. It is on occasions like this, when some of the players in the Roadmap, and in particular its co-signatories, are riding roughshod over the rule of law and justice that the Somali people look to your SRSG to defend them and not to be an accomplice in this sordid conspiracy to deprive the Khatumo people of their inalienable right to select their MPs through their traditional leaders in line with the established procedures set up for all the assembled traditional leaders now based in Mogadishu. Once these rights are allowed to be abused, and worse, seen to have been sanctioned by your SRSG, they are bound to undermine the whole fragile process now under way with all its adverse implications. President Faroole's unacceptable and bizarre action in Nairobi can best be understood against its background going back to the time when the SSC clan in the SSC regions, exercising their inalienable rights to self-determination, formed their own Khatumo State in January 2012. President Faroole, rather than come to terms with this reality, had ever since been engaged in relentless vendetta against this nascent Khatumo State of Somalia, determined to derail or scuttle. And clearly, it is for this reason that he concocted his unwarranted predatory intervention, which is based neither on reason nor could be justified on the basis of the procedures set up for the Road map to end the Transition. Sadly, your Special Representative to Somalia. Mr. Mahiga, has taken leave of his responsibilities to support the mandate of the United Nations as an impartial entity to support the rule of law and assist in peaceful resolution of the prolonged conflicts in Somalia. He has morphed into an “arbiter” dispensing favours and patronage for his own ends to strong parties and confidants at the cost of those who are not represented in the small cabal of Roadmap co-signatories as is now happening to Khatumo state. The special UN representative can not be allowed to support Faroole’s mindless claims to abrogate to himself the traditional leaders' assigned role to nominate the members of parliament in the post transition period. We appeal to you, Mr Secretary General, to address and redress Mr. Mahiga’s unfortunate blunder and blind support to Faroole to intervene and interfere in the mandate provided to the traditional leaders(of all Somalia) to select their members of parliament. The attempt to usurp the Khatumo State's traditional leaders' responsibilities could unravel the Roadmap and peace process as Khatumo leaders walk out of the process. They could be joined by other clans in support and solidarity with them or because they are fearful of similar interferences happening to them. The Khatumo people are in the unfortunate unique situation among other Somali clans and regional States in Somalia of confronting the collusion of one hostile wily regional leader and your own SRSG. It behoves you, Mr Secretary-General, as well as those in the international community engaged in the early and successful conclusion of the transitional governance phase in Somalia to prevail over both Mahiga, who is now part of the problem and not its solution, as well as Mr Faroole, who is now the greatest wrecker/ "spoiler" of the peace process. For the sake of the Roadmap, they should be made to desist from abusing their positions as co- signatories and refrain from interfering in the selection of each clan as to who should represent them in parliament. Please accept, your Excellency, the assurances of our highest consideration. Garad Jama Garad Ali Garad Suleiman Garad Mohamed Garad Jama Garad Ismail Garad Abdullahi Garad Soofe Sultan Said Osman Ali Garad Abshir Salah Mohamed Ugaas Abdullahi Isse Nur Garad Ali Buraale Hassan Garad Abdi Salaam Hassan Mohamed Garad Mohamed Osman Mashgare Garad Suleiman Buraale Ugaas Farah Mohamed Ali cc: Ambassador USA Ambassador of UK Ambassador of Turkey UN Secretary- General Special Rep for Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 20, 2012 'Liibaan';858482 wrote: According to UN Report , Abdiweli is corrupt ! Show us right now, go ahead. Is this the one where he showed his transactions and was not guilty. Is this the same one Farmaajo couldn't explain where funds went? Is this the same one Sheikh Shariif condemned 2 days ago? The only thief is your uncle Khaliif Galayr. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted August 20, 2012 Somalia;858487 wrote: Show us right now, go ahead. Is this the one where he showed his transactions and was not guilty. Is this the same one Farmaajo couldn't explain where funds went? Is this the same one Sheikh Shariif condemned 2 days ago? PM Farmaajo is patriot and honest man, that explains why he is very popular in Somalia. If election were held this month, Former PM Farmaajo would win by a landslide. But now we have a selection - a group of Somali MPs appointed by elders selecting the somali president. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 20, 2012 Again you are changing the conversation, Farmaajo has name recognition and is popular with IDPs who welcomed him in Mogadishu, Gedo and Khaatumo, no one else cares for him. Prove the allegations that Abdiweli is corrupt or then again you require no response other than this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 20, 2012 liibaan, it is great day for SSC proud darwiish clan. Saado Cali the most respected somali female artist is part of the ssc clan list. you should be happy for your people today. today is not sad day. today is day of celebration from taleex to buuhoodle to lasscaanood to saaxdheer to boocame. abdikariim was cheated by galeyr. don't blame others bro. it was galeyr who was selfish and took abdikariim seat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 20, 2012 Mooge;858490 wrote: liibaan, it is great day for SSC proud darwiish clan. Saado Cali the most respected somali female artist is part of the ssc clan list. you should be happy for your people today. today is not sad day. today is day of celebration from taleex to buuhoodle to lasscaanood to saaxdheer to boocame. abdikariim was cheated by galeyr. don't blame others bro. it was galeyr who was selfish and took abdikariim seat. He doesn't like her because he feels she's with Puntland, there must be a lot of cuqdad in him. 1) Caali Khaliif Galeyr. 2) Saada Cali Warsame. 3) C/Lahi Xasan Dhooble 4) C/Risaaq Max'ed Yusuf. 5) Cabdi Max'ed Cali 6) Cabdi Cabdulahi Max'ed 7) C/Waaxid C/Lahi Jamac 8) Siyaad Max'ud Shire. Abdikarim is not there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
