Somalia’s True Political Heavyweight....Dr. Abdiweli the choice for 2012

[General Duke]

Mogadishu Sabti 11 August 2012 SMC

 

Thanks to a new constitution and improved security in and around the Somali capital, the nation of 10 million is getting a fresh start. International efforts to stabilize Somalia have picked up and outside investment is pouring into the country in record numbers.

 

The man maneuvering Somalia’s ‘Roadmap’ plan and the path to peace is not entirely the result of foreign security and intervention–the bulk of the credit goes to Somalia’s own leaders, and in particular its prime minister Dr. Abdiweli Mohamed Ali.

 

Dr. Ali was brought fresh from his job as a professor at New York’s Niagara University in June 2011. During his short time in office, the premier has navigated his way out of the feuds that once engulfed the Somali leadership, and focused his attention instead on how to get the war-torn country out of twenty years of civil war.

 

With Ali at the helm, Somalia’s draft constitution was approved just a week ago. The prime minister’s Roadmap for the End of Transition will soon usher in the end of Somalia’s decade-long struggle for legitimacy.

 

The prime minister’s constitution gives power back to the Somali women and allows Somalia’s fledgling state-administrations to exercise powers even over their own foreign policies.

 

What makes Ali’s rise to power unbelievable is that he has done most of his work under the worst famine in the region in over half a century.

 

The premier’s security policy has also pushed Al-Shabaab militants into a small corridor of power, and much of this came at a time when President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed was unwilling to work with regional powers against the armed insurgent group. By the end of the next president’s term, Al-Shabaab will be a distant memory, and this will come entirely as a result of Dr. Ali’s brilliant security plan.

 

Ali’s leadership has garnered attention far beyond Africa. In the last year, Turkish premier Racep Tayyep Erdogan, Saudi prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal, British Foreign Secretary William Hague, and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon have all visited the notoriously dangerous Somali capital.

 

The prime minister has proven, most importantly, that Somalia can count on a moderate, pragmatic, and logical leader to push it forward. No more do Somalis have to listen to militant pseudo-Sheikhs and illiterate clan elders for guidance.

 

Despite his lack of experience and relative youthfulness, the prime minister has proven his ability to connect with all levels of society. And that he is not just limited to dealing with professionals of his own caliber.

 

With Dr. Abdiweli Mohamed Ali as president, Somalia can not fail.

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[Somalia]

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[Mooge]

oba, thanks for audio. Prophet Mohamed SCW respected people of other religions to the last day of his death. It is in the Quran.

 

Be they Muslims, Jews, Christians, or Sabaeans,

Those who believe in God and the Last Day

And who do well

Have their reward with their Lord.

They have nothing to fear,

And they will not sorrow. (Qur'an: 2:62 and 5:69)

[oba hiloowlow]

If a Muslim converts to another religion and goes away from Islam, What are the consequences for this person? Please tell me where I can find these answers in the Quran, the Hadiths, the Islamic laws, etc. Thank you

The Answer:

 

Murtad is the noun form of the verb irtidad, which means to return, to ask the return of and to go back to the previous state. As a religious term, the word murtad is used to describe a person who converted to another religion or to atheism after being a Muslim. Deserting the religion is defined as “riddah”(conversion).

 

Riddah is not in question for a person whose heart is full of belief but says that he has deserted his religion under compulsion: "Anyone who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters unbelief― except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith― but such as open their breast to unbelief― on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." (an-Nahl,16/106). There is a criterion of compulsion. It is not regarded as compulsion to be forced to drink alcohol, to eat the meat of a dead person or to be threatened by being beaten or imprisoned; it necessitates hadd (punishment for serious crimes) punishment. Only being threatened by death can be regarded as an excuse if the threatening person has the power to do so. If the person shows patience, does not desert his religion and is killed, he will receive great rewards in return. (al-Ikhtiyar, II, 106).

Before the hadd punishment is executed, the murtad is asked to repent and to return to Islam. However, there is disagreement among scholars as to how to do it. According to most of the scholars, if he does not repent, he is killed after he is asked to repent three times. Hazrat Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) says that the murtad is imprisoned for three days and is asked to repent and that he should be given bread as food during that period. The hadd punishment is definitely the duty of the state. Nobody else can give that punishment.

Hazrat Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) carried out that period as a month. An-Nahai claims that there should not be a time limit and that he should be asked to return to Islam until he repents.

When the murtad deserts Islam, all of his good deeds are wiped off and he stays in Hell everlastingly: "If any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be Companions of the Fire and will abide therein." (al-Baqara, 2/217).

It is valid if the murtad does not repent. Islamic scholars have different views whether the deeds of the murtad before his ridddah are wiped off if he repents and returns to Islam. According to Imam Shafii, no good deed of the murtad including hajj is wiped off if he returns to Islam. According to Imam Malik, all of his deeds are wiped off as soon as he deserts Islam. (al-Qurtubi, al-Jami'li Ahkami'l-Qur'an, Beirut 1965, III, 48).

The marriage becomes invalid with riddah. However, if the murtad returns to Islam and if both parties want to continue their marriage, a new marriage ceremony and mahr are not in question. Hanafis regard divorce due to riddah as talaq bain (irrevocable divorce). The murtad cannot be an heir to his Muslim relatives; when he dies, his Muslim relatives cannot be heirs to him either: "A Muslim cannot be the heir of an unbeliever, nor can an unbeliever be the heir of a Muslim" (Bukhari, Faraid, 26; Muslim, Faraid, 1).

A committee of scholars should question the murtad in order to decide that a Muslim has deserted Islam. It is by no means correct to say that someone has become an unbeliever without such a questioning.

[Somalia]

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[oba hiloowlow]

Somalia please be my guest boowe

[Somalia]

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[Mooge]

Oba, killing christian somalis is Al-Shabaab murderers ideology because they don't understand the religion. people of other religions should be respected.

[oba hiloowlow]

Mooge can i ask you a question nothing to do with the Pm Mudane Dr cabdiweli Gaas, as we know there are somalis who are either non- believers or have converted to christianity and etctera should they be respected in Somalia, a muslim country, when we know the stance of the religion regarding this matter?

[Mooge]

oba, ulamaa say that the laymen like you and me cant make judgement on persecution of others because we don't have the religious knowledge to know what is right and who to kill. shabaab are laymen and they behead if they hear someone is christian. that is wrong.

 

in my opinion respect means giving them due process, hearing their case, making ulamaa decide if this person is fitna for the country or if he should be deported or something. but this is way beyond my knowledge. if the person was born christian, that is another case and we should have no problem with that.

 

we can't just cut their head off because they are christian. that is not respect. that is murder.

[oba hiloowlow]

im not talking about someone who was born christian im talking about someone that was born as a muslim and converted diinta maxey ka qabtaa just answer my question if you can't Ask your local Imam and get back to me

[Somalia]

What business is it of yours what he is, if you believe in God then it's between him and his maker, why do people like you indulge in judging how other people lives their life? I mean you believe he's going to hell for eternity what else is there to wait for the guy, but no that's not enough you want to pick apart people's lives some more before starting with yourself!

[oba hiloowlow]

excuse me, I was talking to Mooge I believe Mooge is big enough to speak for himself.