oba hiloowlow Posted August 9, 2012 Mooge i didn't say aaga dagaalka ma tegin i asked you how many times he has been there? Just give Farmaajo credit in the liberation area, Gaas credit waxaa lagu siinayaa meel mariinta dastuurka iyo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 9, 2012 oba hiloowloow, gaas's goverment kicked out shabaab from mogadishu. it was his administration that did it. you have no facts other than clan hate. i have the facts infroont of you. shabaab was liberated from mogadishu when he came to power. he put emphasis not on qawda maqashii but real progress. be fair my friend. you can't take credit away and give it to someone else. cumar abdirashi started lots of good thing before farmaajo as well but that is not how govement works. we give credit to who accomplishes the thing not who helped int he past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 9, 2012 sxb be realistic qabyaalada iska daa everyone knows Gaas wasn't pm xitaa for 2 month when Mogadishu was liberated im not saying qeyb kama qaadanin in that case munafaaq baan ahay laakin Farmaajo ayaa qabtay howsha ugu weyn one can't deny that, Farmaajo marku is casilaaye ciidamada half the city wey xoreeyen they only had Yaaqshiid,Kaaraan,Huriwaa left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 9, 2012 do you know abdulahi yusuf built the army? why not give him credit as well? loool. you are losing it oba. farmajo's whole admin was six months. I am not denying farmajo credit but bigest credit goes to existing administration who finished the job strated by many other administration before. you are lucky to have candidates like abdiweli running the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 9, 2012 lool abdullahi yusuf sow kii la goostay ciidamada maahino why do you think the tfg controlled 2kms for a year, shariif and Ina sharmaarke had to start from the beginning since intabadan ee ciidamada hailed from Pland loo daabulay deeganadooda. , why im saying farmaajo should get credit for the liberation waxa waaye he started to pay the salaries as i stated before, Moraalka ayuu uu dhisay, which lead to the progress we can see today all Mr. Gaas basically did waxa weeye howsha buu dhameystiray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 9, 2012 oba, we were saying the same thing. abdiweli gets most credit. farmaajo and cumar abdirsahiid as you just stated also get credit. abdulhi yusuf afkaga ka daa awoowgaa bu ahaye oo ben haka shegin. reer muqdisho waad fahmi weydeen halyayga idiin hagar baxay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 9, 2012 ^^ Okey. Lol@ reer Muqdisho, my subclan was big supporters of the AY government nobody can't deny that, in fact sheikh shariif was the first person oo qixiyay reer waqooyi Muqdisho in their history in 2009, AY reerka wuu uu roonaa inkastoo aanan anigu taageeri jirin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted August 9, 2012 god night oba. late for me here. suhuur time. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 9, 2012 oba hiloowlow;855974 wrote: Farmaajo Abdihakiin and that other minister who got killed in the suicide attack at his home started dhiirogelin, they use to go to aaga dagaalka very often,started paying the soldiers, Heeso wadani ayaa lagu guubaabin jiray had iyo jeraale who can forget that been alla caaye specially maalmihii wasaarada gaashandhiga la qabsanaaye. T ell me how many times has Gaas went to Aaga dagaalka. Looooooooool Mooge showed you the pics, that's just funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 9, 2012 oba hiloowlow;855990 wrote: lool abdullahi yusuf sow kii la goostay ciidamada maahino why do you think the tfg controlled 2kms for a year, shariif and Ina sharmaarke had to start from the beginning since intabadan ee ciidamada hailed from Pland loo daabulay deeganadooda. , why im saying farmaajo should get credit for the liberation waxa waaye he started to pay the salaries as i stated before, Moraalka ayuu uu dhisay, which lead to the progress we can see today all Mr. Gaas basically did waxa weeye howsha buu dhameystiray. Cause Abdullahi Yusuf didn't have 17000 troops like he asked for in 2004 but was rejected by African Union cause they told him that's "military logic". The man was ahead of his time. As for Farmaajo he didn't liberate it, he started paying the TFG soldiers more and AMISOM liberated Mogadishu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 9, 2012 Somalia what's funny Mooge showed me 4 jeer uu booqday.Wow thats a lot. Abdullahi AUN had 10 000 soldiers from Puntland when he ''resigned'' they all left to puntland, so shariif and Ina sharmarke had to start from the beginning with like 2000 soldiers and 8000 amisom soldiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 10, 2012 You asked him if he did it, and there's many times he visited. His job is to fix Somalia, and he visited them for moral support. He is the hardest working man in Muqdisho, him and the Mayor, do you agree with me on that? That this man is more hard working that Shariif? No, Abdullahi Yusuf didn't have 10.000. Remember, he wanted 10.000 to become national army with others joining like Galmudug, Mareeg, Bay and Bakool etc but it was against 4.5 that's what southern people said however they never contributed anything in return. So he had only a few thousand that were stretched in places like Baidoa, Buur Hakaba, Balcad, and successifully held onto Jowhar, Huriwaa, Balcad and other areas. as well as troops in Somaliland. Every step he made as progress, he was taken back 2. Whether it be AMISOM saying no to what Sheikh Shariif has now, or troops from Puntland . Also Ethiopian Generals also had a role in destroying the few months in 2007 there was full control in the country and ICU/Al Shabaab was demoralized. Anyway, Abdiweli Mohamed is the prime minister to achieve the most since 2000. He is the only Prime Minister not to have problems with his president, they get along just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 10, 2012 well Sheikh Shariif and Gaas are both wroking hard, sheikh shariif specially worked hard to get ciidan Tayo leh laakin xagga roadmapka iyo ansixiinta Dastuurka Gaas ayaa credit-kaas leh and nobody can't take that away from him. I agree with you Gaas is one of the best prime-ministers in somalia since the fall of dowladda dhexe together with Farmaajo. The only thing i dont like with Gaas is that he is always being influenced by Faroole, faroole baa markasta cadaadinaayo Gaas so that he can achieve his agendas, otherwise i dont see a problem with Gaas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted August 10, 2012 Lol, good we finally agree. But Gaas is not influenced like people think, we especially saw this during the trip to Ethiopia by Faroole and Caalin, in which Abdiweli convinced some clan elders from Puntland to go to Istanbul instead, there was a big division within Puntland and many people applauded his stance against Faroole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 10, 2012 If he can take a stance against Faroole i will support him ,one of the president qualities is to be Dhexdhexaad he represents the people of Somalia looma baahno nin caadifaad qabiili hayso, i have also been wondering why Gaas doesn't have a major shacbiyan support i mean Farmaajo was pm for 6 month and the somali people in the country and in the diaspora as well loved him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites