Dissident Nation: AN INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM FOR SOMALILAND

[Nudawn]

Somalia;854477 wrote:

Don't even address me, newbie.

Relax with the private messages brodie I don't swing that way.

[Abwaan]

Nudawn, you should ask for my advice on what to do with Somalia, when he not only invades you in pub

Iic but also in private. He tried to that with me once and I just wrote a simple reply and that was the last time he did that:D he is my witness.

[Nudawn]

Abwaan;854612 wrote:

Nudawn, you should ask for my advice on what to do with Somalia, when he not only invades you in pub

Iic but also in private. He tried to that with me once and I just wrote a simple reply and that was the last time he did that:D he is my witness.

Looool so I'm not the only one he sends creepy messages too? I'm not worried about the little troll

[The Sage]

LANDER;854603 wrote:

^

 

It's a fool's errand to figure where one tribe begins and another ends but apparently its become the Khatumo supporters favorite pass time!

The fact that people like Mooge and Taleexi choose to organize themselves based on tribal sub-state identifications and not through the modern nation state paradigm show that their allegiances cannot evolve into the contemporary political discourse of today. Hopefully one day they will realize that state level political identifications have been eclipsing the tribal forms of organization and will continue to do so.

[Taleexi]

Abwaan;854609 wrote:

War waddankaani waa naga badan yahay ee maad naga deysaan tafaraaruqa! I am sure magaalooyinka aad hadda wax ka soo qoraysaan oo aan filayo in badankeen aanqurbe joogno, haddii la dhaho halla kala gooyo qaar baa naxdin la suuxi lahaa, haddana tuulooyin cidlo ah kala xigsanaya.

Qarxiska dhaaf. Kuwo yar yar oo brainwash lagu sameeyey baan u caqli celinayey.

[Abwaan]

Taleexi;854851 wrote:

Qarxiska dhaaf. Kuwo yar yar oo brainwash lagu sameeyey baan u caqli celinayey.

ok

[LANDER]

The Sage;854846 wrote:

The fact that people like Mooge and Taleexi choose to organize themselves based on tribal sub-state identifications and not through the modern nation state paradigm show that their allegiances cannot evolve into the contemporary political discourse of today. Hopefully one day they will realize that state level political identifications have been eclipsing the tribal forms of organization and will continue to do so.

^One can only hope

[Somalia]

Abwaan;854612 wrote:

Nudawn, you should ask for my advice on what to do with Somalia, when he not only invades you in pub

Iic but also in private. He tried to that with me once and I just wrote a simple reply and that was the last time he did that:D he is my witness.

It was his public profile go check it, not private messaging like I did with you. :eek:

[Tallaabo]

Carafaat;854360 wrote:

by

DISSIDENT NATION

on AUGUST 4, 2012 in POLITICS with NO COMMENTS

 

In 2005 the separatist Sudanese People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) and the ruling National Islamic Front (NIF) of Sudan came together to end the Second Sudanese Civil War that had ravaged the country for a generation. In the Naivasha Agreement brokered in Kenya, President Omar Al-Bashir offered the SPLM an independence referendum following a six-year period of cooperation and ceasefire.

 

In 2011, South Sudan voted for independence from the Khartoum regime and went its separate way. Now, Somaliland may be getting a similar deal with its mother nation of Somalia.

 

Since the birth of the federalist movement in Somalia and the reintroduction of Somaliland to national politics there has been great fanfare about the fate of Somaliland within the context of regional politics. Earlier this year in the United Arab Emirates, a leader of Somaliland met with his Mogadishu-based counterpart for the first time in twenty years.

 

A nation in waiting

 

Somaliland has maintained its political status quo through a rigid program of indoctrination based on forthcoming independence. It has allowed the political establishment to stay in place and for peace to prevail amid minor disagreements. But a generation of repeated promises of independence from Somali are starting to fall on deaf ears, and the Somaliland public is tired of the long wait.

 

With pressure building on its current leader Ahmed Mahamud Silanyo, an ex-rebel and planning minister during the regime of Siad Barre, the Somaliland leadership is increasingly changing its tactics to achieve the evasive independence its people have been promised. President Silanyo’s task is no different than any of his predecessors; to bring out the recognition of Somaliland by the international community.

 

Working with Somalia

 

The people of Somaliland believe their worst mistake as a state was the union with Somalia during independence in 1960. The commonly-held belief in Somaliland has always been that it is the people of southern Somalia holding their independence goals back.

 

However, it is Somaliland’s own political misguidance that is keeping it in the current status quo. While South Sudan seized the opportunity for an independence referendum from the Khartoum regime, as did Eritrea from the Addis Ababa regime in Ethiopia, Somaliland has turned its back on Mogadishu, depriving itself of real independence.

 

In years previous, Somaliland’s leaders were forced to sit under the banner of Somalia to get an international audience, and this was viewed as a form of public humiliation by the region’s leaders, and no less for its people. The stigma of being seen alongside a broken Somalia was the driving force behind Somaliland’s fruitless twenty-year isolation, during which only peace was established.

 

Somaliland’s isolation has taken its toll on the state far beyond the political arena. Even the administrations in Mogadishu and Puntland were able to garner wider outside support and investment during the war than democratic Somaliland.

 

The referendum

 

In breaking from the failed methods of years past, Somaliland is now fully engaged with the regime in Mogadishu. And behind closed doors there is a great political game ongoing to resolve the status of Somaliland.

In exchange for relinquishing claims to the entirety of the former borders of British Somaliland, whose historic territorial extent is the basis of modern Somaliland, the regime in Mogadishu will offer an independence referendum. This was a demand from the traditional elders of Eastern Somaliland, who have given support to Somalia’s current president Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and are currently parked in Mogadishu with key figures in tow.

 

The referendum will last for a period of five years according to insiders in the Somali capital. Whereas in Sudan, the SPLM leader Salva Kiir was given the position of vice president, there will be no vice president from Somaliland. Instead, the referendum will be be based on political capitals.

 

For a period of five years, the Somali capital will be switched to a different city, but whether symbolic or political we don’t know for sure yet. Three cities will share the rotation; the first is the current seat of power Mogadishu, the second is the Somaliland capital Hargeisa, and the third will be a city from Puntland so as to not alienate other Somali stakeholders. It’s unclear if Puntland will choose its current capital Garowe or its commercial capital Bosaso to represent it in the rotation.

 

In year one the capital will be Mogadishu, in year two Hargeisa, in year three Bosaso, in year four Mogadishu again, and in year five it will end in Hargeisa for the symbolic referendum vote. During the fifth year Somaliland will have the spotlight of the nation shining on its capital for the momentous occasion..

 

 

When the new Somali constitution left out the status of the Somali capital, it wasn’t a mistake. For good reason the clause on Somalia’s political seat was deliberately left out of the constitution. The decision on a new capital will be left up to Somalia’s member states, and the extent of Somalia’s decentralization program allows all parties, even Somaliland, to voice their concerns and decide their own fate, alongside the central government and not under it.

 

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Yet another garbage written somewhere in the web.

[Tallaabo]

Nudawn;854395 wrote:

I'll support the seperation of somaliland from Somalia, a nation with no sustainable water supply, arible soil for crops and no known natural resources. We'll just slap tarriffs on good imported from somaliland. Boom there goes your biggest market to trade with.

A quick look at Somaliland's current trading partners, its agricultural sector, the many contracts it signed with foreign mining companies, its proven vast aquifers, or just its overall economy will help you write a more intelligible comment next time.