Abwaan Posted July 20, 2012 Abdiweli campaign baa u cad, he doesn't care about Farmaajo or Somali kale, eedda un buu iska wareejiyey sida ay u muuqato, wax dan ah oo uu ka lahaane ma jirto, waa runtaa Macallinka waa su'aal muhiim ah haddii uu ogaa in Farmaajo lacag lunsaday muxuu intaas uga aamusnaa, haddii arrintu ay dhab tahayna labadooduba waa Qaade iyo Qarshe! Waxaanan hadda xasuusan waxa uu report-ku ka yiri sababta Farmaajo loo waraysan waayey, intii baaritaanku socdey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 20, 2012 C/Weli waxaa ka wanaagsan siduu Shariifku u hadlay oo uu isku dayey inuu xal u yeelo su'aasha lacagaha maqan inkastoo aan jawaabta lagu wada qanci karin haddana at least Farmaajo ma uusan cambaarayn, C/Welise wixii isaga lagu tuhmeyna Bankiga Dhexe ayey martay buu ku celceliyey, wixii Farmaajo wakhtigiisii lumayna marqaati buu ku furay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macallinka Posted July 20, 2012 Abwaan, taas waxay ku tusaysaa Abdiwali shaqsi ahaantiisa nooca uu yahay.....oo ah nin aad selfish u ah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted July 20, 2012 peopel were giving farmajo benefit of doublt but now things are not loking good for farmaajo. where did he use the money? abdiweli was asked where the money went and he said it wasn't deposited by farmajo administration and shariif confirmed that it wasn't deposited. at the begining farmajo was denying there was money missing and now after shariif said the money wasn't deposited in the bank farmajo speaks out and says yes the money was used. lol arinta farmajo wa ku xumatay. if he was used by shariif like toilet paper thn he is not nin adag. if he took money himself then he is tuug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted July 21, 2012 The allegation against Farmaajo was first made by AFP News. Check this out: AP Exclusive: More than $70 million missing in Somalia; politicians accept briefcases of cash July 21, 2012 3:26 pm GMT - Written by PP - Edited by PP Print Print NAIROBI, Kenya (AP)— Somali politicians are returning from Arab nations with briefcases of cash, and a Somali government watchdog report obtained by The Associated Press found that more than $70 million of it is missing instead of being used to fight terrorism, piracy or hunger. The large cash payments encourage politicians to hang onto power while paying little attention to crucial needs in a country devastated by two decades of war. A lack of attention to constituents’ needs may also be fueling an al-Qaida-linked insurgency, officials say. “Politicians want to keep the status quo. They’re profiting from it,” said Abdirazak Fartaag, the head of the Public Finance Management Unit, a Somali government body charged with overseeing the country’s financial management. “We have to hold these big shots accountable.” Somalia’s prime minister told AP the government is trying to be more transparent by working from a budget and making records public. In a 22-page report due to be released Wednesday and obtained exclusively by AP, Fartaag documented cash payments that came from Libya, the United Arab Emirates, Sudan and other donors in 2009 and 2010 totaling more than $75 million. Only $2.8 million was accounted for by the government. He based his report, which was written for the Somali government, on interviews with politicians who witnessed the payments or received money in Mogadishu, Somalia’s capital. Fartaag said in his report that the Somali government is missing more than $300 million once internal revenues from the port, airport, khat trade and telecommunications are added to the Arab millions that have vanished. A separate AP investigation established that cash payments from Arab nations continue amid a lack of transparency over how much money politicians accept and what happens with it. Somali Prime Minister Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed told AP in an interview in Mogadishu in April that his government received one payment of $5 million dollars from a Middle Eastern country this year that he “believed” to be the United Arab Emirates. But Finance Minister Hussein Halane told AP in April that he accompanied the prime minister twice to Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates, this year and had seen Mohamed personally receive $5 million in cash each time. After more than 50 phone calls and e-mails from AP over six weeks, the government produced documentation showing that only one payment of $5 million was deposited into the country’s Central Bank. The other payment remains unaccounted for. Politicians in position to receive such payments have little incentive to reach out to armed groups to end conflict because then they’d have to share the money, Fartaag said in an interview in Nairobi on Tuesday. The weak U.N.-backed Somali government is fighting the al-Shabab Islamist insurgency that has control of much of central and southern Somalia. Al-Shabab kidnaps children to use as soldiers, carries out public stonings and amputations and claimed responsibility for bombings that killed 76 people in Uganda last July. The government is constantly appealing for more cash to fight the insurgents, even as it fails to account for money already received. Both Western and Arab nations pour aid into Somalia to try to combat piracy and terrorism and provide social services. The government gets very little cash directly from the West. Most goes to aid agencies. The U.S. and Italy even insist on paying wages directly to Somali soldiers after it turned out that commanders were stealing soldiers’ salaries. Oil-rich nations like Sudan and the United Arab Emirates have a tradition of cash diplomacy in which visiting officials are handed stacks of $100 bills to take home. The foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates told AP he had no specific details at hand about funding for the Mogadishu government. “I really cannot recall what the financial aid that’s been given to the Somali government (is) from the UAE,” said Sheik Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan. “We are just, frankly speaking, trying to solve … the Somali conflict.” Somalia’s prime minister and the finance minister say the government deposits these donations in Somalia’s Central Bank, a newly renovated building in downtown Mogadishu whose fresh coats of paint stand out from the smashed gray concrete rubble around it.“We are trying to be more transparent. We have a budget. We have public records of our finances,” Mohamed said. Halane said that not all cash was necessarily deposited in the government’s account because some was spent on “legitimate and documented” expenses by officials before being deposited. The AP was not able to get details of these expenses. Officials did not respond to repeated requests for further documentation. The sums are a fortune, especially in impoverished, war-ravaged Somalia.The cratered streets of the capital are filled with rail-thin Somalis, rifles slung across their backs, wandering past thorn bushes and roofless homes pocked with bullet holes. Families fleeing the violence camp in domes of cloth tied over bent twigs. Most people in camps scrape by on less than $1 a day. “There’s no government here,” said 31-year-old Hassan Ahmed as skinny, ragged children played around him in the sand under the watchful eyes of women in long, drab robes. “There’s nothing to eat. There’s nothing to drink.” The government says it uses the money to win over citizens like Ahmed by providing services and security. Some small progress has been made since the current Cabinet took power in November. Revenues from the port and airport have increased, a budget was created, civil servants paid, streetlights erected in one neighborhood and along the main road of Maka al-Mukarama. Some roads have been repaired and garbage collected. It’s not clear how much is paid for by donors and how much by the government, which raises revenue from the port, airport, and other sources. There are no public records.The government’s term expires in August and it wants to extend for another year. It also wants more cash, but Western nations appear reluctant to give for now. “Transparency and accountability are critical,” said Cheryl Sim, counselor for Somalia affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Kenya. “Donors have a right to know their taxpayers’ contributions are being used as intended. Constituents have the right to know how their government is spending the aid it receives. Unaccounted-for assistance funds are troubling, especially in Somalia.” Associated Press writer Adam Schreck in Abu Dhabi contributed to this report. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 21, 2012 Many of you SOLers owe me an apology, because I was critic of Farmaajo, stating that he was not the hero and honest man you all thought he was and I got attacked for sharing that information. Let me just add that he is not the only one or the worst, rag ka sii daran baa jira. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted July 21, 2012 farmaajo waa nin aan naxayn. suitcase bu la amusay. lol. lol hero. ninka mar hore marku ciyal suqa lacag siyey ku mudaharadn muqdisho wa anigii qarxiyey. lol. sheko bunbunin ba socotay oo la soo qorsheyey. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted July 21, 2012 Moge, Farmaajo bay kaga dhagtay ma istidhi. If you are unaware Faroole is also one of the men who is accused. One question I have is why suddenly all these men are being accused and lets note that all these men want to run for Somali presidency and the elections are around the corner?There is something fishy about this. This is more than money, perhaps the international government want none of these men to be the next Somali President. Suaashu waa yaa kursiga lo wada talow? ileen hadaan somaali nahay waan ognahay siyasadu inay gacanta nogu jirine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 21, 2012 Aaliyyah;852305 wrote: Moge, Farmaajo bay kaga dhagtay ma istidhi. If you are unaware Faroole is also one of the men who is accused. One question I have is why suddenly all these men are being accused and lets note that all these men want to run for Somali presidency and the elections are around the corner?There is something fishy about this. This is more than money, perhaps the international government want none of these men to be the next Somali President. Suaashu waa yaa kursiga lo wada talow? ileen hadaan somaali nahay waan ognahay siyasadu inay gacanta nogu jirine. Lol...Aaliyyah, caqliga Ilaah hakuu deysto, dadka qaar SOL jooga inay intaas garan waayeen baad mooddaa oo ay campaign ugu jiraan nimankaan sida aan u jeedno wakhtigoodii dhammaaday. I honted this long time ago inay nimankaan u dhammaatay, waa la igu gacan sayray which is ok and now I think there are more signs. Labo yaan la isku khaldin, lacagta luntay way jirtaa, timing-kase waa la is weydiin karaa. Cidda imaanaysa? ilaah baa og, waxaan rajeynayaa inuu noqon doono hoggaamiye wanaagsan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted July 21, 2012 ^ ameen ilaahay caqliga ha isiyaadiyo. Laakin adba dan baad leedahay uma malenayo in aad ka duwantahay kuwan madaxa iskula jira so adiga dhinacaga adba farmaajo ka magayey lol.. candidateka adigu support gareesid waa kee? waa suaale? gartay kuwan lugu mudacay shekadan kuma jiree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yunis Posted July 21, 2012 Mr. Halane's old lies re-packaged as a new story for political gains - in light of the recent systemic government corruption reports Mooge - adigu caadifad laciif ah baa ku gubayso. @Abwaan - Markaad suufiga noqon jirtaa la'gaaray. apology? really - with this as a source You don't have to like the guy, but, if you want call him a liar and cheat least you could do is stand on solid ground with a clear proof. Here is AP's report over a year ago (Dated 05/28/2011), when Mr Halane himself was in the hot-seat for misappropriation of gov't funds: Although the Associated Press reported that Fartaag’s claim was based on interview with politicians who witnessed the payment or received money in Mogadishu, the Somali finance minister said that the author of the report "spoke to none of the people who manage the government’s finances, whether it is the minister of finance or the accountant general." Finance Minister Halane also denied that he told the Associated Press that he had seen the prime minster personally receive $5 million USD in cash on two separate occasions. Despite the surprise of the TFG at allegations of corruption and mismanagement at the press conference they offered no direct rebuttals or proof to refute the charges contained in the report. In 2010 Somalia was rated #178, dead last, on Transparency International's scale of perceived corruption. Editor's Note: Although the TFG attacked the Associated Press for running the story, the information was not gathered by Katharine Houreld of the AP but from a report generated by the Somalia Public Finance Unit. Houreld has broken a number of stories on Somalia and this most recent scoop has been widely syndicated. Source: http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/post/855/TFG_Ministers_Slam_Associated_Press_Reporting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted July 21, 2012 You don't have to like the guy, but, if you want call him a liar and cheat least you could do is stand on solid ground with a clear proof. Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 21, 2012 Aaliyyah;852329 wrote: ^ ameen ilaahay caqliga ha isiyaadiyo. Laakin adba dan baad leedahay uma malenayo in aad ka duwantahay kuwan madaxa iskula jira so adiga dhinacaga adba farmaajo ka magayey lol.. candidateka adigu support gareesid waa kee? waa suaale? gartay kuwan lugu mudacay shekadan kuma jiree? Loool...Aaliyyah, I am going to be honest the only dan aan leeyahay is inaysan raggaan Soomaali ku soo noqon,balse fursad la siiyo Soomaalida kale intii u qalanta xilkan. I have a candidate but it does not mean inuu keligiis Soomaaliya xil kasta buuxinayo, boosasku waa badan yihiin. Halla garto inaan dad la iskaga daba gelin isku cid baan nahay oo qura ee caqli kale ha lala yimaado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 21, 2012 Yunis amase Suufi igu sheeg amase i xayeesi, dadka u horreeya ayaad ku jirtaa ee apology aan ka sugayo! Waa runtaa Xalane, last IMG report baa asba loogu dhammeeyey. Adiga laakiin xoogaa bahasha ka debac, Farmaajo will be a history along with Abdiweli and the two Sharifs, Geedi, Nuur Cadde and Omar Abdirashid, cidna isaga lacag gaar ah soo celi dhihi mayso, ee raggiisuu wax la qabaa, yuusan xil,dambe un u hanqal taagin markaas baa loo yaabaa! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted July 21, 2012 haye kaad tageersantahay ilaa hada ma diiday magaciisa in aad sheegtid? iska sheeg dee saan bal u eegno in uu nin ka wanagsan yahay inta kale ee isa soo sharaxday?. aana eego bal inaad la timid caqli kale oo ka duwan isku reer baa nahay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites