Somalia Posted July 15, 2012 This whole Monitoring Report is crap, I read through different sections and I can't believe a single thing they said, and I definitely am not going to trust their sources. Just when we are going to a good place, they try and divide us up, no more I say! This is a Somaliland ploy, even look at the Chief coordinator of the report, Mark Bryden, he has a Somaliland passport and Somaliland wife and children, he's known to support secession and he is coming with UNVERIFIED local sources, as well as different websites, that's just embarrassing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaashaan Posted July 15, 2012 this means we need a new leaders for this comming election,,,,,so let is not worry who did what??? or who did not I guess we do'nt have time for that let is focus this comming election. Waa soo dhawaynayaa in labada shariif na dhaafaan,,,,Abdiwali iyo Farmaajana ha raaceen who cares,,,,let is move on and focus the future. War ileen yaab la arag.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted July 15, 2012 How is Puntland corrupt when it's such a beautiful state with beautiful cities and government institutions and military with ongoing development in every sector. Total garbage!!!! Shame on the original poster!!! Shame on the respondents. This is totally unacceptable hogwash and needs to be confronted head on by the Puntland elite squad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 15, 2012 Gaashaan;850829 wrote: this means we need a new leaders for this comming election,,,,,so let is not worry who did what??? or who did not I guess we do'nt have time for that let is focus this comming election. Waa soo dhawaynayaa in labada shariif na dhaafaan,,,,Abdiwali iyo Farmaajana ha raaceen who cares,,,,let is move on and focus the future. War ileen yaab la arag.............. Well said Gaashaan. Who cares? Badda ha ku dheceen. We need news faces period. Dr_Osman;850831 wrote: How is Puntland corrupt when it's such a beautiful state with beautiful cities and government institutions and military with ongoing development in every sector. Total garbage!!!! Shame on the original poster!!! Shame on the respondents. This is totally unacceptable hogwash and needs to be confronted head on by the Puntland elite squad Lol....waah waah waxaas baa frustration la dhahaa, xitaa dadka report-ka akhrinaya ma dil toogasho ah baad ku xukuntay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 15, 2012 Somalia;850784 wrote: BULLCRAP When did you change your mind and edited all of what you said...I think SOL should bar from members to edit all of their comments:D....I guess samafal baa in private kugu canaantay oo ku dhahay report-ka ka hor imoow... Samafal waayeel dhallinyarada ha canaanan...I thought you were an independent 19 years old. At one point you were analyzing the report with quotes and now this...you let me down adeer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted July 15, 2012 LOL@Independent 19 year old, wtf No, I just read other parts of it, they even say they did not get full cooperation so they can't verify many of the claims, it's a hogwash. Also they have citations which they use to back up their claims, many lead to websites such as SomaliaReport and Galgalanews, what the hell is up with that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted July 15, 2012 Abwaan: Ma adigaa warbixintan qoray maxaad dhiig karka noogu kicinaysaa!!, Koleyba Somali baa ku soo ogaanaya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted July 15, 2012 lol....Taleexi....if I wrote this I would have used SOL as one of my sources...and since we don't see that...I did not. Somalia;850837 wrote: LOL@Independent 19 year old, wtf No, I just read other parts of it, they even say they did not get full cooperation so they can't verify many of the claims, it's a hogwash. Also they have citations which they use to back up their claims, many lead to websites such as SomaliaReport and Galgalanews, what the hell is up with that? lol...They also listed garoweonline, mareeg, bar-kulan and many more as their sources...Why did you just choose the two that you mentioned? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted July 15, 2012 Dee inuu been yahay waxaa kuu cadaynaysa haddayba Garoweonline, bar-kulan iyo mareeg tixraaceen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 15, 2012 meel wasakh ah markaa gacan la gashid, adna waa ku wasakhoowisaa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted July 15, 2012 This is not news. Everyone knows the TFG is corrupt to the core. Every now and then we keep hearing about missing millions and by now I am already used to it as an unavoidable package that comes with the koonfurian politicians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burn Notice Posted July 15, 2012 THE UNITED NATIONS’ BOGUS MONITORING REPORT ON SOMALIA by DISSIDENT NATION on JULY 14, 2012 in POLITICS with 2 COMMENTS In its latest monitoring report on the status of Somalia’s weapons embargo, the United Nations’ task force for Somalia and Eritrea used their time and resources to deliver a grossly biased and incomplete report. At the head of this botched report is Matthew Bryden, a partisan pseudo-authority on Somalia who holds a passport to the unrecognized territory of Somaliland and serves as the coordinator of the monitoring group. The UN’s latest monitoring reports have been particularly tainted with bias, but the newest offering takes the cake, and should be enough to cast the mission aside as a joke. A rabid bias The latest monitoring report came to light just before its release some weeks ago during an anti-piracy conference in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. It was rumored at that conference that the upcoming monitoring report on Somalia would be heavily biased against Puntland, and for no particular reason. Coordinator Bryden is no friend of Puntland, or Somalia, and it was hinted in Dubai that he would portray Puntland as menacing as he could, even at the cost of the truth. By the time of the Dubai-based conference in June, Bryden had already found a way to place pressure on the UAE to pull funding to Somalia’s only major internal anti-piracy program–the Puntland Maritime Police Force (PMPF). By June, Puntland had already cleansed most of its coastal communities of its pirate plague and had launched the nation’s largest piracy rehabilitation program. The anti-piracy program was so successful that Fox News host and former US military man Oliver North traveled to Puntland to survey the forces some consider to be Somalia’s only answer to piracy. To the luck of Somalis and the misfortune of pirates, Puntland was able to bypass Bryden’s bias and has been promised further funding from the UAE and the international community in its assault on piracy. As I type, the PMPF are pursing the kidnappers of an NGO team in the town of Galkayo. If Bryden had his way, the families of these NGO workers would be waiting quite a while longer for relief. After bypassing one stretched accusation after another against the Somali anti-piracy program in Puntland, you will find not a single damning criticism against Somaliland, not even so much as a word on possible corruption. In the past year, Somaliland’s security forces have engaged in repeated violent skirmishes against local militias in the Sool and Togdheer provinces, with some attacks so intense that it caught the attention of Amnesty International. Even Somaliland’s year-long military exchange did not sound off alarms of a possible arms embargo violation to Bryden, whose wife’s family is coincidentally located in the Somaliland capital. When the report named off the Somali figures accused of corruption, the entire region of Somaliland was conveniently skipped over. Missing in the report were any mentions to public mismanagement in Somaliland despite a 2009 report by UAE’s The National newspaper that cited food aid theft and diversion in Burao, Somaliland’s second-largest city. Forgotten still, perhaps deliberately, was the recent court case in the Somaliland capital Hargeisa that saw harsh execution sentences handed out to 17 individuals belonging to the same marginalized clan. Questionable sources A large number of the sources Bryden uses in the report lead to defunct webpages, making verification impossible in several circumstances. When reporting on Puntland’s anti-terror operations, he uses sources like Galgala News, which was once the mouthpiece of Al-Shabaab weapons provider Mohamed Said ‘Atom.’ Bryden also admits to using non-local sources to report on Puntland, citing a lack of access to the region. The monitoring group’s source of choice for Puntland is Somalia Report, a small blog whose often dubious headlines have forced them to pull stories and make numerous apologies. In one instance he condemns the Puntland leader’s son for corruption yet uses a mouthpiece owned by the same individual as his source–clearly, Bryden is desperate to make any case he can. The truth Somalia’s Puntland-based anti-piracy program is the most effective tool yet in the fight against the criminal plague along Somalia’s shores, and Puntland arguably faces the largest number of internal and external threats from both militants and pirates today, and needs a proper security force to tackle these issues. Since 2004, Puntland has been the greatest sacrifice to the stabilization effort of Somalia, and without it the nation and world would be in grave danger from a myriad of threats now contained mostly to Somalia and being squeezed out even more every day. While this report may largely be toothless, at least we hope, it has threatened both the sovereignty of Somalia as well as its security and the security of the global community by scrutinizing Somalia’s defense capabilities. While the embargo may still serve its use in this transitional phase in Somalia, it should be used sparingly and only against unruly factions–not the groups trying to stabilize Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uchi Posted July 15, 2012 I am really disappointed that they couldn't find anymore on Farole, surely the mastermind/puppeteer pirate would have a paper trail, breadcrumbs? yellow brick road?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted July 15, 2012 Burn Notice;850869 wrote: THE UNITED NATIONS’ BOGUS MONITORING REPORT ON SOMALIA by DISSIDENT NATION on JULY 14, 2012 in POLITICS with 2 COMMENTS In its latest monitoring report on the status of Somalia’s weapons embargo, the United Nations’ task force for Somalia and Eritrea used their time and resources to deliver a grossly biased and incomplete report. At the head of this botched report is Matthew Bryden, a partisan pseudo-authority on Somalia who holds a passport to the unrecognized territory of Somaliland and serves as the coordinator of the monitoring group. The UN’s latest monitoring reports have been particularly tainted with bias, but the newest offering takes the cake, and should be enough to cast the mission aside as a joke. A rabid bias The latest monitoring report came to light just before its release some weeks ago during an anti-piracy conference in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. It was rumored at that conference that the upcoming monitoring report on Somalia would be heavily biased against Puntland, and for no particular reason. Coordinator Bryden is no friend of Puntland, or Somalia, and it was hinted in Dubai that he would portray Puntland as menacing as he could, even at the cost of the truth. By the time of the Dubai-based conference in June, Bryden had already found a way to place pressure on the UAE to pull funding to Somalia’s only major internal anti-piracy program–the Puntland Maritime Police Force (PMPF). By June, Puntland had already cleansed most of its coastal communities of its pirate plague and had launched the nation’s largest piracy rehabilitation program. The anti-piracy program was so successful that Fox News host and former US military man Oliver North traveled to Puntland to survey the forces some consider to be Somalia’s only answer to piracy. To the luck of Somalis and the misfortune of pirates, Puntland was able to bypass Bryden’s bias and has been promised further funding from the UAE and the international community in its assault on piracy. As I type, the PMPF are pursing the kidnappers of an NGO team in the town of Galkayo. If Bryden had his way, the families of these NGO workers would be waiting quite a while longer for relief. After bypassing one stretched accusation after another against the Somali anti-piracy program in Puntland, you will find not a single damning criticism against Somaliland, not even so much as a word on possible corruption. In the past year, Somaliland’s security forces have engaged in repeated violent skirmishes against local militias in the Sool and Togdheer provinces, with some attacks so intense that it caught the attention of Amnesty International. Even Somaliland’s year-long military exchange did not sound off alarms of a possible arms embargo violation to Bryden, whose wife’s family is coincidentally located in the Somaliland capital. When the report named off the Somali figures accused of corruption, the entire region of Somaliland was conveniently skipped over. Missing in the report were any mentions to public mismanagement in Somaliland despite a 2009 report by UAE’s The National newspaper that cited food aid theft and diversion in Burao, Somaliland’s second-largest city. Forgotten still, perhaps deliberately, was the recent court case in the Somaliland capital Hargeisa that saw harsh execution sentences handed out to 17 individuals belonging to the same marginalized clan. Questionable sources A large number of the sources Bryden uses in the report lead to defunct webpages, making verification impossible in several circumstances. When reporting on Puntland’s anti-terror operations, he uses sources like Galgala News, which was once the mouthpiece of Al-Shabaab weapons provider Mohamed Said ‘Atom.’ Bryden also admits to using non-local sources to report on Puntland, citing a lack of access to the region. The monitoring group’s source of choice for Puntland is Somalia Report, a small blog whose often dubious headlines have forced them to pull stories and make numerous apologies. In one instance he condemns the Puntland leader’s son for corruption yet uses a mouthpiece owned by the same individual as his source–clearly, Bryden is desperate to make any case he can. The truth Somalia’s Puntland-based anti-piracy program is the most effective tool yet in the fight against the criminal plague along Somalia’s shores, and Puntland arguably faces the largest number of internal and external threats from both militants and pirates today, and needs a proper security force to tackle these issues. Since 2004, Puntland has been the greatest sacrifice to the stabilization effort of Somalia, and without it the nation and world would be in grave danger from a myriad of threats now contained mostly to Somalia and being squeezed out even more every day. While this report may largely be toothless, at least we hope, it has threatened both the sovereignty of Somalia as well as its security and the security of the global community by scrutinizing Somalia’s defense capabilities. While the embargo may still serve its use in this transitional phase in Somalia, it should be used sparingly and only against unruly factions–not the groups trying to stabilize Somalia. Reasons why the international community will not believe in the piece of garbage you posted here: 1. The report is for SOMALIA and NOT for other countries. 2. Those accused of corruption in Somaliland are already on trial and facing judge and jury to the amazement and admiration of the world. 3. The 17 accused anarchists are not from a marginalised clan as there are no marginalised clans in Somaliland, hence the writer's claim is a blatant lie. 4. There are no internal conflicts in Somaliland to warranty any kind of news whatsoever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Love Somalia Posted July 15, 2012 I'm with those who question the timing of the report -- this information must have been available for some time, why release all this now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites