Carafaat Posted July 9, 2012 From August on Somalia will need to stand o its own feet, build a system of governance and admin, pass laws, set up judiciary structure, a real foreign policy based on geopolitical reality, central, regional and local administrations. It's hugh daunting and complicated task. No other Somali (candidate) has as much knowledge and experience on this issue then the Professor. Those who oppose him should atleast mention their candidate of choice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yunis Posted July 9, 2012 Come august, Presidency will be on the Auction Block - who ever has the the most cash is theirs to lose. Not sure if the Prof Ahmed's salary / pensions can compete with Sh. shariif who just raised stakes. Few weeks ago, in a Nairobi meeting with business folks from Tolka - Shariif proclaimed he set a side about 17mill for his campaign and he is ready to give every parliamentarian a 4X4 and $50k. oba hiloowlow knows this, but will not confirm.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted July 9, 2012 No comment, ehem,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted July 10, 2012 Carafaat;849614 wrote: From August on Somalia will need to stand o its own feet, build a system of governance and admin, pass laws, set up judiciary structure, a real foreign policy based on geopolitical reality, central, regional and local administrations. It's hugh daunting and complicated task. No other Somali (candidate) has as much knowledge and experience on this issue then the Professor. Those who oppose him should atleast mention their candidate of choice! Did he run countries before? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 10, 2012 No, he has run a faculty. That is more management and governing experience then most others have. And besides he has (academic )knowledge on governance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted July 10, 2012 Ahmed samatar is well educated and is the only one that in my opinion understands where the Somalia's root problems lie. But I am afraid he will not pass the first round of the election for two reasons: 1. Electing Ahmed Samatar at this time will be a set back and handing it to Al shabaab. He will be easy to attack and his comments in London about the religion will not help him either ( I think it was him or his brother, one of the two). 2. As Somalis have not moved one from clan politics and there are alot of suspicion among the major clans, an election of Mr samatar will disrupt the clan balance and can lead to revolft and further power struggle. For example, who should he name Primeminster? Samar would say I will pick the most competent reagardless of clan but that does not work in Somlia. Somalis ask 'yuu yahay' before they ask ' muxuu ii qaban karaa'. Even if he fails the guy has some good ideas and should be part of the next goverment in advisory position. For example, he could be made in charge of the Somalia tinktank that develops the strategic goverment policies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted July 10, 2012 Carafaat;849683 wrote: No, he has run a faculty. That is more management and governing experience then most others have. And besides he has (academic )knowledge on governance. He knows the theory? Farmajo knew the theory too and look what happend to him! Marka, what makes this Samatar person better than Sharif who has been on the job (and did the practical) for more than three years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted July 10, 2012 Samafal;849693 wrote: 1. Electing Ahmed Samatar at this time will be a set back and handing it to Al shabaab. He will be easy to attack and his comments in London about the religion will not help him either ( I think it was him or his brother, one of the two)*. You mean >>*http://www.mudugonline.com/2005/january/020105aragti4.htm Not a lot people know his true views because of gift of the gab. I enjoy how he does his best avoiding just saying "assalaam calaikum". He would mumble "waxaan idinku salaamaya salaanta Ilaahay weyna ee na abuuray..bla bla". It's like he had a bet with someone he won't utter those two words. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted July 10, 2012 Talk about the issues not the man - i.e his writing on the governance of somalia, his experience - his ideas - his believes etc - not his clan, bidaar, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted July 10, 2012 AYOUB;849703 wrote: You mean >>* http://www.mudugonline.com/2005/january/020105aragti4.htm Not a lot people know his true views because of gift of the gab. I enjoy how he does his best avoiding just saying "assalaam calaikum". He would mumble "waxaan idinku salaamaya salaanta Ilaahay weyna ee na abuuray..bla bla". It's like he had a bet with someone he won't utter those two words. * Yes that the comment I was talking about and yeah it was him not his brother. Reading those comments again reaffirms that the guy will not be any good with all his talents and ideas as he questions the existence of one of the main believes of Islam: The day of judgment (Yawmul Qiyaama). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted July 10, 2012 The samatars are good academics. they are also nationalists. But they are unease with the most defining character of Somalis; religion. In the age of Alshabaab, Muslim Courts, Ictizam, and the two Sharifs , their chances of wining the top post is very slim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 10, 2012 NGONGE;849700 wrote: He knows the theory? Farmajo knew the theory too and look what happend to him! Marka, what makes this Samatar person better than Sharif who has been on the job (and did the practical) for more than three years? Who says Farmaajo knew the theory. Have you read his thesis. Sxb, Shariif doesn't know how to manage a process. Just look at this whole constitutional farce. Even you admitted the process was managed wrong from the beginning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted July 10, 2012 Carafaat;849771 wrote: Who says Farmaajo knew the theory. Have you read his thesis. Sxb, Shariif doesn't know how to manage a process. Just look at this whole constitutional farce. Even you admitted the process was managed wrong from the beginning. I did. But Sharif has been in the kitchen and felt the heat (as rubbish as he is at it). The one you champion has only done the theory (like Farmajo, regardless of reading his thesis or not). So, tell me, what sets this guy apart? What's his unique selling point? p.s. I don't oppose the guy here because I know nothing about him to be honest. I merely ask those who champion him to explain their support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted July 10, 2012 Funny. All these musharaxiin... There should be a rule that any musharax hopeful must do a minimum of 200 hours community service inside Somalia supervised and signed off on by an independent agency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 10, 2012 Waryaa Ngonge, the guy has a party base which you can't say of Shariif. And Farmaajo's party, still don't understand what they belief in except in an particular clan coalition. Kacaan 2.0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
