Joint Declaration By The Elders of Maakhir KHaatumo States of Northern Somalia

[Liibaan]

MAAKHIR STATE OF SOMALIA

 

KHAATUMO STATE OF SOMALIA

 

 

 

 

Joint Declaration By The Elders of Maakhir & KHaatumo States of Northern Somalia

 

 

Memorandum on the Dialogue between Somalia & Somaliland Submitted to TFG Delegation by the Elders of Maakhir & KHaatumo Region of Northern Somalia

 

 

20th June 2012

 

Memorandum on the Dialogue between Somalia & Somaliland

 

We the elders and representatives of Maakhir and KHaatumo wish to bring to the attention of the TFG Delegation our views on the dialogue between Somalia and Somaliland and the road map, which are as follows:

 

Historical Background:

 

1. The territories that became to be known as British Somaliland Protectorate in late 19th century was inhabited by Somalis, which were traditionally divided into clans. Each clan was separate and independent from the others. This was observed by Sir Richard Burton when he visited, in 1855, the Somali territories, facing the Gulf of Aden. He mentioned in his book “First Footsteps in East Africa” that the frontier between the Maakhir and the Somaliland is denoted by piles of rough stones and violation of territorial rights was followed by war.

 

2. The clans separately and independently entered into agreement with the British Government. The Maakhir clan entered into a treaty with the British Government on 27th January, 1886. The Treaty was ratified by the British Government on 15th May, 1886. Article 1 of the Treaty said, “The British Government, in compliance with the wish of the undersigned Elders of the Maakhir, undertakes to extend to them and to the territories under their authority and jurisdiction the gracious favour and protection of Her Majesty the Queen-Empress.”

 

3. Thus the Maakhir clan, among others, maintained its connections with the British Government separately from other clans on the basis of the treaty signed between the United Kingdom Government and the Maakhir that recognised its area to be a separate territory. The Treaties, including that with the Maakhir, which the British Government concluded with the clans, did not create a unitary state. Therefore British Somaliland Protectorate was not a unitary state but an umbrella entity for administering the territories of these separate and independent clans on the basis of the Treaties.

 

Facts relating to the Union between UN Trusteeship of Somalia and British Somaliland Protectorate:

 

1. In December, 1959, the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted a resolution that UN Trusteeship of Somalia, under Italian administration, should become independent on 1st July, 1960.

 

2. The Legislative Council of British Somaliland Protectorate met on 6th April, 1960 and with the unanimous support of all the elected members passed the following Resolution:

 

“That it is the opinion of this house that practical steps should be taken…for the immediate unification of the protectorate and Somalia (UN Trusteeship)…that the date of independence and unification with Somalia must be 1st July, 1960, the date when Somalia will attain its full freedom.”

 

3. As a result of this Resolution, a Conference was held in the Colonial Office, London, on 2nd May, 1960. The Somaliland Ministerial Delegation led by the Minister of Local Government & Leader of Government Business, Mohamed Ibrahim Egal, confirmed their desire to achieve independence and unite with Somalia when that country became independent on 1st July, 1960.

 

4. The British Secretary of State for the Colonies, Iain Macleod, referred to the treaties that the British Government had with the clans. He asked for some form of proof that the elders and the authorities of the clans were in agreement with the demand for independence and union with the UN Trusteeship of Somalia.

 

5. The Council of Elders of British Somaliland Protectorate met on 24th May, 1960 and endorsed the policy of independence and union with Trusteeship of Somalia.

 

6. The Royal Proclamation Terminating Her Majesty’s Protection dated 23rd June, 1960 begins with the words; “Whereas the Territories in Africa known as the Somaliland Protectorate are under our protection; our protection over the territories known as the Somaliland Protectorate shall cease… ” and this proves again that Somaliland Protectorate was not a centralised unitary state.

 

7. Somaliland Protectorate became independent on 26th June,1960 and on June 27th,1960, the Legislative Assembly of Somaliland passed the Law of Union between Somaliland and trusteeship of Somalia, which read:

“The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall be the SOMALI REPUBLIC.”

 

8. The Union of Somaliland and Somalia Law No.1 was passed on 1st July, 1960. It was later, after the referendum on the constitution in 1961, was adopted as the Law of the Act of the Union.

 

9. United Nations General Assembly resolution 1479 of September 20, 1960, called “Admission of Somali Republic to membership in the United Nations” and stated that it, “…decides to admit the Republic of Somalia to membership in United Nations.” Thus Somali Republic gained international recognition and legitimacy as a subject international law. All the previous states such as Trusteeship of Somalia and Somaliland which formed Somali Republic no longer exist since that moment.

 

1. The Dialogue

 

* We support the territorial integrity, sovereignty, political independence and unity of Somalia.

 

* The dialogue between Somalia & Somaliland should be conducted within the framework of the territorial integrity, sovereignty, political independence and unity of Somalia.

 

* The dialogue should be on the basis that Somaliland is a regional state of Somalia like Puntland and Gulmudug and NOT as an independent state.

 

* Somaliland only represents the Northwest clan and cannot represent the Maakhir, Awdal & KHaatumo even though its delegation may include members of these clans.

 

* The TFG delegation should have separate dialogue with representatives of other non-Somaliland clans (Maakhir, Khaatumo, and Awdal), who are independent of Somaliland, so as to save guard their political, economic, security and social interests. Similarly they should be represented in the proposed meeting in Qatar.

 

* The dialogue should be confined to the integration of Somaliland to the road map.

 

* If concessions are accorded to Somaliland clan, then equal concessions should also be extended to the other four non-Somaliland clans to be equally distributed between them.

 

We hope that our views will be given serious consideration.

[Reer Banaadir]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the above mentioned people are clanist so are you sir. Somalis have the tendency to point finger at others while they totaly and shamelessly disregard their shortcomings, lie inorder to further the interest of few to the detrimental safety of all. I believe no one should be forced to join a counrty or sociaty he or she does not wish to be part of. It's time for all somalis to be honest to one another ( I doubt that will ever happen) or accept the consequences. Once and for all stop this pointless argument over who is first the chicken or the egg issue. Britian left Somalis in disarray, treat them like animals and left them half dead for what's left of Somalia, and they inturn treated each other worse, and here they all claim to have played no part of all the problems that occured the last 52 years and are still doing it. I have come to realized Somalis became cowards, faithless and godless. If You can not coexist leave eachother alone in peace because like it says ( Wax badso intaad is leedahay yeysan waxla'aani kugu dhicin). While you all seek clan hegemony don't loose what you already have. Say alhamdulillahi if you believe in ASWT and protect your two mile square forget about what you think you inhereted from a foriegner AKA UK or keep it up and when you burn don't plame anyone else but your self. My Vavorate quete "get busy living or get busy dying". Peace

[Liibaan]

Oodweyne;844877 wrote:

And in here, folks, the

"mischief conductor"

of the

"clannish band"

had struck up his baton for the mistake of the current government of Somaliland. Which means all of this

"clannish skulduggery"

was on the

"card"

the minute we have agreed to accept a useless bunch of warlords and non-entities call

TFG

, as a legitimate government to which to parlay a political and legal discourse of the kind in which only an elected government in Mogadishu should be the one in which Somaliland must entertained such talks with.

 

Let see how our government start navigating out of this bit of a dicey jam in here. Particularly what they will do if and when it becomes obvious clear that the far from the said TFG treating these folks as not that important when it comes to her talks with Somaliland, but, on the contrary, they may even start using them as a bit of

"Trojan horse"

to which to frustrate Somaliland agenda in the said promised talks between the two sides, in the first place.

 

All in all, we shall soon see what the TFG position is on this issue. Hence, that will tell us all we needed to know as to the color of their argument when it comes to the talks between the two sides.

 

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, Odweyne you are full of qabyaalad, hypocrisy and hatred. Don't be mad if Other clans & regions don't want to join your clan-project (snm/Somaliland). Remember respect is 2-way street. If you want others to respect and recognize your clan-project (snm/Somaliland), You should show respect to other Somali clans/regions (Awdal, Maakhir, Khaatumo, Puntland, Galmudug, Banadir, Juba, etc)

[Liibaan]

Reer Banaadir;844881 wrote:

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the above mentioned people are clanist so are you sir. Somalis have the tendency to point finger at others while they totaly and shamelessly disregard their shortcomings, lie inorder to further the interest of few to the detrimental safety of all. I believe no one should be forced to join a counrty or sociaty he or she does not wish to be part of. It's time for all somalis to be honest to one another ( I doubt that will ever happen) or accept the consequences. Once and for all stop this pointless argument over who is first the chicken or the egg issue. Britian left Somalis in disarray, treat them like animals and left them half dead for what's left of Somalia, and they inturn treated each other worse, and here they all claim to have played no part of all the problems that occured the last 52 years and are still doing it. I have come to realized Somalis became cowards, faithless and godless. If You can not coexist leave eachother alone in peace because like it says ( Wax badso intaad is leedahay yeysan waxla'aani kugu dhicin). While you all seek clan hegemony don't loose what you already have. Say alhamdulillahi if you believe in ASWT and protect your two mile square forget about what you think you inhereted from a foriegner AKA UK or keep it up and when you burn don't plame anyone else but your self. My Vavorate quete "get busy living or get busy dying". Peace

Well Said Brother Reer Banadir, we need more somali patriots like you. I agree with you It's time for all somalis to be honest to one another, the people of Northwest (SL) should have the right to secede from Somalia, and create their own independent state. Likewise, the people of Khaatumo, Maakhir, and Awdal should have the right to remain an integral part of United Somalia, and create their own autonomous regional state in their ancestral lands inside Somalia.

[Taleexi]

Where is Mudane Yalaxow when you need him most ... Illeyn ninna kabo aan jinkiisa ahayn ma gashado, Somaliland-na dawlad duriyadeed bay isugu soo ururtay, Allow ceeb astur ....

[Aadan Jugle]

In 1855 Somaliland and Maakhir?? What kind of books Afweyne loyalist read? so called Maakhir clan wether they signed a seprate treaties or a joint one it bares nothing to today's somaliland bounderies, the eastern boundries were demarcated in 1931 and both so called SSC and Maakhir agreed that they were British subjects and not Italian subject and thus the bounderies were born, a boundries that were mid-wifed by the same whining bunch now.

 

Somaliland's boundries would not change because Maakhiris and the horse clan of Laas Caanood love to be joined to Xamar, if you want Xamar you go to Xamar, Xamar will not come and cross somaliland border and give you a big union wet moochie.

[Taleexi]

[Abtigiis]

Oodweyne;844877 wrote:

And in here, folks, the

"mischief conductor"

of the

"clannish band"

had struck up his baton for the mistake of the current government of Somaliland. Which means all of this

"clannish skulduggery"

was on the

"card"

the minute we have agreed to accept a useless bunch of warlords and non-entities call

TFG

, as a legitimate government to which to parlay a political and legal discourse of the kind in which only an elected government in Mogadishu should be the one in which Somaliland must entertained such talks with.

 

Let see how our government start navigating out of this bit of a dicey jam in here. Particularly what they will do if and when it becomes obvious clear that the far from the said TFG treating these folks as not that important when it comes to her talks with Somaliland, but, on the contrary, they may even start using them as a bit of

"Trojan horse"

to which to frustrate Somaliland agenda in the said promised talks between the two sides, in the first place.

 

All in all, we shall soon see what the TFG position is on this issue. Hence, that will tell us all we needed to know as to the color of their argument when it comes to the talks between the two sides.

Pot, kettle and all that!!!!!!

[NGONGE]

The idea of talks raised its ugly head all the way back in Feb of this year, yet all these guys (and the Imam) are scrambling at the last minute and writing silly letters of complaints now!

 

They should have worked on this issue from the minute they heard it was about to take place. They should have sweat talked Sheikh Sharif, Cabdualwali or Sheikh Xasan much earlier. They should have used to the carrot of the "votes" of their own people to tempt any of these "presidential" candidates into fighting for their cause.

 

It's a bit too late for letters and complaints now. The talks have been agreed to take place between TWO sides and there is an implied acceptance that SL represents all of these letter writers (except the Imam of course). Talk about horse trading when the horse has already bolted.

[Reer Banaadir]

What arrogant, rude, hateful, fascist, ignorant comment. To say people should vacate and uproot themselves because you believe a non Somalis, non Africans non Muslims once over 100 yrs ago came to the norther shores made illegal encroachment, never honored one treaty they signed with the natives and you want the people respect that treaty and abide by because you feel someone committed crime against your family (mind you that that criminal was committed against all Somalis in that country, not that you would care). HHMM . What would you say if someone says since you don't like to be part of Somalia (mind you the union was done by Somalis Africans and Muslims wish is more legit) you and your kind should leave all Somali territory what would your reaction be? Mr. jungle like your nick name people don't live in the jungle they settle their argument without resorting to ethnic cleansing of those oppose to them. There's an international law against that don't end up of the receiving end of that law. Remember that those that you think are your friend will not hesitate to send you to Guantanamo bay once your need expires, and like I said Wax badso intaad is leedahay, wax la'aani yeysan kugu dhicin. No one would leave their land for you without a fight and when pullets start flying you have no idea who will get chased. Live in peace and let others live in peace or don't cry later if you choose a war.

[Liibaan]

Open Letter: Joint War Waged by Somaliland and Puntland Administrations On Khaatumo State of Somalia-

Lasanod Online. Thursday, June 28, 2012

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Copyright © 2012 Lasanod.com

[Liibaan]

Khaatumo State& Maakhir State" Warlord Siilaanyo Ma Wada Metelo Dhamaan Gobolada Waqooyi"

 

" Warlord Siilaanyo Ma Wada Metelo Dhamaan Gobollada Waqooyi" Khaatumo State-

Lasanod Online. Thursday, June 28, 2012

 

 

 

 

Buhoodle,(lasanod Online)- Maamulka Khaatumo State, ayaa ka hadlay wada hadalka Dubai ku dhexmaray madaxweynaha Soomaaliya..

 

Maamulka Khaatumo State of Somalia ayaa ka hadlay wada hadalka imaaradka ku dhexmaray madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Shiikh Shariif iyo Siilaanyo.

 

Agaasimaha guud ee wasaaradda Arrimaha gudaha ee Maamulka khaatuma State, Maxamuud Shiikh Cumar Xasan ayaa wuxuu sheegay in Axmed Siilaanyo uusan matali karin dhamaanba gobalada waqooyi ee Soomaaliya.

 

“Waxaanu sheegaynaa Siilaanyo inuusan matali Karin dhamaanba gobalada Waqooyi ee Soomaalilya, laakiin wuxuu matalaa oo kaliya labo gobal, oo kala ah Burco iyo waliba waqooyi galbeed” Ayuu yiri Masuulkan u hadlay maamulka Khaatumo.

 

Agaasimaha guud ee wasaaradda Arrimaha gudaha ee Maamulka khaatuma State Maxamuud Shiikh Cumar Xasan sidoo kale waxa uu sheegay in gobollada woqooyi oo dhan anaan wax laga waydiin Karin maamulka Hargeysa ee Soomaaliland, wuxuuna sheegay in ay jiraan Gobollo uu ka jiro maamulka khaatumo.

 

“Anagu waxaan joogaa gobalada waqooyi Soomaalidiidna Manihin oo waan taageersanahay dawlada Soomaaliyeed” ayuu hadalkiisa siiraaciyay Agaasimaha wasaarada Arimaha gudaha ee maamulka Khaatumo.

 

Shirkan maanta dhexmaray Shiikh Shariif iyo Siilaanyo ayaa daba socda wadahadalkii London dhowaan ka furmay, waxaana laysku afgartay in la sii wado kulamo danbe.

 

 

 

Copyright © 2012 Lasanod.com

[Liibaan]

Maakhir State:

 

Xildhibaan Casharo: Maamulka Warlord Siilaanyo kuma Hadli Kara ama Keligii ma Sheegankaraa Majiro Dhulkii Biritish SomaliLand (Video)

 

Xildhibaan Cawad Axmed Casharo oo ah ruug cadaa siyaasi soomaaliyeeda ayaa warbixin uu siiyey TV-ga xorta ah SOMALISAT ku sheegey in aan haba yaraatee qabiil khaasa sheegan karin ama aan loola hadli karin dhul ay wada degaan 5 qabiil oo soomaaliyeed, uuna sheegto inuu qabiilkeligii matelo ama leeyahay (*****) dhul waa hore ay gumeysan jirtey dawlad ka mida gumeystayaashii reer yurub ee sida xaqdarada ah ku qeybsadey qaaradii afrika.

 

Siyaasi Casharo ayaa ka digey in qabiil kamida qabiilada dega waqooyiga soomaaliya ee ingiriisku hore u gumaysan jirey kuna magacaabi jirey Biritish somaliland, uu maanta sheegto qabiil keliya, uuna ku doodo in isagu ku gorgortamayo, bawarka somaliyana qeyb uusan xaq u lahayn sidaa lagu siiyo.

 

Arintan ayaa imaneysa kadib markii qabiilka Isaaqu siyaasiin kamid ihi ay magaalada Dubai bil kahor kula kulmeen madaxweynaha dawlada kumeelgaadhka ah Sheekh Shriif, kana dalbadeen iney u wada hadlaan waqooyi iyo Koonfur, iyagoo ku andacoonaya iney iyagu (Qabiilka Isaaqu) metelaan waqooyiga Somaliya oo dhan, oo ah wixii leysku odhan jirey Biritish Somali Land.

 

Iyadoo taa laga ambaqaadayo ayaa ilaa hada waxaa dhacay hal kulan oo ka dhacay London. Shirkaa ka dhacay london ooy cadaatey in dawladii gumeysiga ee Ingiriisku weli lugweyn kuleedahay dulmintan cusub ee lagula kacayo afartii qabiil ee kale ee aan Isaaqa ahayn, ee daga dhulkii leysku odhan jirey Biritish somaliland.

[Carafaat]

* The dialogue should be on the basis that Somaliland is a regional state of Somalia like Puntland and Gulmudug and NOT as an independent state.

 

* The TFG delegation should have separate dialogue with representatives of other non-Somaliland clans (Maakhir, Khaatumo, and Awdal), who are independent of Somaliland, so as to save guard their political, economic, security and social interests. Similarly they should be represented in the proposed meeting in Qatar.

Liibaan, do you think a Somali politician from the TFG would want to deal with Khatumo, Makhir, Awdal, Zeylac, and 10 SNM sub-clans seperately or rather deal with one Somaliland representing them all?

 

If I was a politicians I would rather deal with one politician or platform, then clan representetive.

[Liibaan]

Carafaat;846468 wrote:

Liibaan, do you think a Somali politician from the TFG would want to deal with Khatumo, Makhir, Awdal, Zeylac, and 10 SNM sub-clans seperately or rather deal with one Somaliland representing them all?

 

If I was a politicians I would rather deal with one politician or platform, then clan representetive.

Which colonial Somaliland you talking about? French Somaliland, British Somaliland, Italian Somaliland, NFD Somaliland, Western Somaliland. British Somaliland Colony ceased to exist on June 26, 1960. And Italian Somaliland Colony ceased to exist July 01, 1960.

 

 

KHaatumo People were always against British Somaliland Colonial Maps, KHaatumo people never agreed to be part of Somaliland's colonial map. Warlord Siilaanyo as the leader of snm/Somaliland clan faction is clan representative.

 

TFG already recognized KHaatumo State of Somalia. Sheikh Shariif said he will mediate to solve the conflict between KHaatumo and snm/Somaliland. Also, Sh Shariif said he is willing to mediate between KHaatumo State and Puntland.