Faroole is a fool for rejecting the Istanbul Conference on Somalia....

[General Duke]

[General Duke]

The conference in Isanbul is a great opportunity for Somalia and it is ludicrous for a leader to have taken such a selfish and absurd stance. The excuses made for rejecting the conference, were absurd as and not logical. At a time when we are isolated as a people and when the only solution brought forth by our neighbors and Western nation has been military intervention. The Turks entrance has been injection of fresh Oxygen into the Somali Political lungs....

[Mario B]

Duke, some people don't want for Somalia to have a central government [ I include SL], that's why they will every so often embarrass us on the International stage! We are a people without shame.

[Dabrow]

I agree Duke. Very bad political move, foolish indeed.

[Abtigiis]

Infact were it not for PM Abdiweli interjecting last minute, a faction of the TFG were to issue a statement condemning Turkey! So sad, indeed. So sad.

 

As to Faroole, we have been saying he is fool and all....but in times when the somali political intelligence is personified by people like Uchi who listens to us?

[Mario B]

^Lol, the sloganeering Uchi, will say "Puntland,Puntland...take it or leave it".

[Yunis]

a fool indeed, This has been the pattern with Mr Fingerless. But, now he is no longer seeking concessions, he is flat-out against a viable alternative to clan federalism, and opposing this march towards better Somalia for only personal reasons. Finally, few Puntlander are being counted here.

 

'Ninka malab ka dudayoo dacar leefay waa doqon'.

 

where is Xiin to explain away this one too - mise the 'Spoiler' on the constitution kii buu wali dhamayn la'yahay sharixideeda.

[Abtigiis]

Faroole’s petulant denunciation of the Istanbul meeting is actuated by irreverent self-importance, never by irreverent politics by Southerners. Mark my words. Dry Puntland will soon be hoisted by its own petard of sowing seeds of malice and division. After all, Faroole is the mayor of Garowe in real terms, only hermeneutically linked to power over puntland, not through real control of its territory. He does not rule Sool and Saang, or Galgala and its environs, or Galackyo or seething Bossaso. And soon he will learn pushing too many clan politics is playing a Russian roulette. Soon he will grabble with resurgent Omar, determined to put Isse to his insignificant political box. Puntland’s saving lie, to quote Joseph Conrad, is that it is the epicenter of Somali politics and nothing moves forward, if its fingerless clan fascist doesn’t lift his remaining fingers. It will soon crumble as the saving lie finally dies, brutally killed by a chastising reality.

 

The uproar against Istanbul was mainly coming from the secular wing of the TFG, which thinks the Ala-Sheikh is taking roots in Somali politics. The Ala-Sheikh, if you do not know, is many things to many people: Islamic militants in modern coats; nationalist Somalis in touch with the real issues facing Somali people; a Southern clique grabbing power through a mix of politics, economics and religion etc.

 

The real threat to Somalia’s future is not Ala-Sheikh, or their supposedly extremist views, if you ask me. The majority of these men may be from the south, which makes Faroole nervous. They may have some strong islamic views, but they are individuals who understand that pandering to western interests is not going to save Somalia. They are people who are wary of 20 years of western theatrics. They are determined to seek other allies and ideas. They may not be perfect but they are better than those who seek salvation from Mahiga and his mercenary politics.

 

 

Yunis, Xinn maanta oo kale la ma helo. Shirka ka danbeeya Istanbul meesha lagu qabanayo ayuu soo daraaseeynayaa. And then he will come here and say "ya Jamaaca, calm down. Faroole's outcry is normal. It is about the MANAMA conference. The process is moving forward. Faroole is only trying to show the Turks the way forward. blah blah."

[Qandalawi]

^I really don't understand what united PL, Galmudug and now AHlul Sunna Waljamaha and the TFG wing you said were almost about to make a statement condemning Turkey over this issue.

 

I'm still searching for the main, real and significant reason they are boycotting Istanbul, anyone?

[UZTAAD]

this farole guy is joke , he was told to do so by Zenawi or some ther powers who want to undemine turkey efforts towards somalia.

[Carafaat]

We'll said Abtigiis. Clan politics waa russion roulette, sooner or later it will come to haunt you.

 

Lool@xiin maanta oo kale lama helo.

[Fiqikhayre]

Madex-dhaqameedka Puntland oo taageray qaadacaadii Shirka Turka ee Madexweyne Faroole.

 

Posted by Puntlandi on May 28th, 2012

 

Garowe(Puntlandi.com):- Madex-dhaqameedka Puntland ayaa taageray qaadacaadii Shirka Turka ee Madexwda dawlada Puntland xilli inbadan oo ka mid ah ay shalay ka baaqdeen socdaal ay ugu duuli lahaayeen Wadanka Turkiga.

 

Garaad Maxamed Cilmi shirwac oo ka mid ah Isimada Puntland oo warbaahinta gudaha maanta la hadlay ayaa sheegay in Isimada Puntland ay ka laabteen go’aankii ay uga qyabgali lahaayeen Shirka Turkiga islamarkaan ay dawlada Puntland la qaateen go’aanka ay ku dhawaaqday.

 

Garaadku wuxuu tilmaamay In aysan ka qaybgalayn shirkaasi, madmadaw ka jira ajandayaasha iyo waxyaabaha looga hadlayo awgiis, wuxuuna xaqiijiyay in aysan u suurtagalin isku dayo farabadan iyo dadaal ay ku bixiyeen in ay ku ogaadaan ajandayaasha shirka iyo xaqiijinta dadka lagu marti qaaday in ay yihiin kuwii rasmiga ahaa ee umada Soomaaliyeed matalayay.

 

Garaad Maxamed Cilmi shirwac oo si qoto dheer uga hadlay shirkan Turkiga iyo mawqifka Isimada Puntland ayaa sheegay in Isimada Turkiga Tagay ee reer Puntland aysan xog buuxda ka hayn shirka loogu yeeray islamarkaan si kale oo aan xaqiiqda ahayn wax looga dhaadhiciyay.

 

Garaadku wuxuu xaqiijiyay In ay jirtay qondo ahayd in qaar ka mid ah isimada Puntland la doonayay in ay malinimadii shalay Turkiga u duulaan si ay uga qaybgalaan shirkaasi lakin ay baaqdeen markii ay isla qaateen in shirkaasi in suusan ahayn mid umada Soomaaliyeed u qalma wanaageeda looga hadlayo.

 

Garaadka oo qaadacaada shirkan iyo taageerida mawqifka dawlada Puntland ka hadlay waxaa uu yiri “Muqdisho wixii aan tagnay kuma aanan arag, naloomana soo gudbin sidii aanu rajaynaynay, ka isimo ahaana waanu ka midaysanahay shirkaasi, haatan Isimada shirka tagayna si kalaa wax loogu sheegay, laakin xogta dhabta ah ee aan idinsiinayo waxaa weeye waxa Puntland ay ka biya diiday waanu ka biya diidnahay”.

 

Garaad Maxamed Cilmi shirwac wuxuu sheegay in uu ka mid ahaa Madexdhaqameedka lagu martiqaaday shirka Istanbuul wuxuuna carabaabay in aanMadex-dhaqameedkan loo soo bandhigin waxa uu shirku ku saabsan yahay wuxuuna yiri “iyadoo dareenkaasi uu nagu jirtay ayaa go’aanka Puntland soo baxay anaguna waanu taageernay maadaama Wax noo cuntama uu noqon waayay, waana ku raacsanahay taasi Madexda dawlada Puntland”.

 

Arrintanina waxay imaanaysaa xilli shacabka Puntland oo midawsan ay si wada jir ah maanta u taageereen mawqifka dawlada Puntland ay ka istaagtay shirka Istanbul ee Turkiga, waxaana suurtagal ah in xilliyada inagu soo aadan ay banaanbaxyo arrintan la xiriira ka dhacaan magaalooyinka Puntland.

[Fiqikhayre]

^^Sorry that wasn't supposed to be posted on here

[Yunis]

Abtigiis;835052 wrote:

Yunis, Xinn maanta oo kale la ma helo. Shirka ka danbeeya Istanbul meesha lagu qabanayo ayuu soo daraaseeynayaa. And then he will come here and say "ya Jamaaca, calm down. Faroole's outcry is normal. It is about the MANAMA conference. The process is moving forward. Faroole is only trying to show the Turks the way forward. blah blah."

 

:D

[Shilling]

General Duke;834992 wrote:

Faroole is a fool for rejecting the Istanbul Conference on Somalia....

The half a billion Turkey provided in assistance to Somalia not one penny did Puntland saw, just few doctors and only after Puntland pleaded them.

 

And just yesterday Turkey promises Somaliland a single-track policy completely bypassing the Dual Track Policy that recognized other pockets of stability in Somalia that merited greater engagement.

 

Farole should be applauded for bringing Turkey's recklessness to light... it neither cares where its assistance to Somalia goes nor serious about promoting real peace and stability now that the Turkish government is favoring one region over the other.

 

Duke, it seems to me you've managed to play into the likes of Abtigis hands... Islaan Bashir and now you as if this is Abdiwali vs. Farole brawl. Grow a pair adeer.

 

Mogadishu is whose leverage again? How about Harigayso? Should we then abandon Garowe for Abdiwali's sake, when we both know he is the only honest body who is serious about bringing Somalia's old glory back? I would hope not because that would make you the only real fool.