MoonLight1 Posted May 11, 2012 This move is designed to get the constitution the max support, PL knows if they say No, everyone else will say YES. watch the space it will be passed with big majority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 11, 2012 Puntland Government Response to Draft Federal Constitution of Somalia Posted by Pi on May 11th, 2012 Puntland State of Somalia Garowe PRESS RELEASE- Garowe 11 May 2012 Puntland Government received a copy of the Draft Federal Constitution for Somalia on 30 April 2012, sent jointly by the Independent Federal Constitution Commission (IFCC) and the Committee of Experts (COE). The Government appointed a six-member Review Committee consisting of Ministers and Parliamentarians to review the new Draft Federal Constitution. The Committee’s report concluded that the Draft Federal Constitution violates the fundamental principles of federalism. Furthermore, the Draft is both unrealistic and unsuitable for Somalia. The TFG executive branch shall bear the responsibility for being unable to present a reliable Draft Federal Constitution to Somali stakeholders in time (it has been 8 months since the Roadmap was signed by Somali stakeholders). Puntland Government has played and continues to play an important and constructive role in advancing the Somali national peace and reconciliation process. Puntland has hosted two Somalia National Constitutional Conferences (Garowe I and II) and hosted Somali leaders in Galkayo for further discussions on the Roadmap and the constitutional process. Currently, a delegation of Puntland traditional elders is in Mogadishu attending an Elders’ Conference. However, it is regrettable to learn of the mismanagement and interference at the Somali Elders Conference by TFG officials. Puntland Government noted, in numerous communications and public occasions, growing frustration with the process under which the Somali Federal Constitution was being carried out. For example: Letter to E.U. Special Envoy to Somalia and U.S. Ambassador to Kenya, dated November 13, 2010, whereby Puntland expressed its deep concerns about the TFG leadership’s commitment to finalizing a Federal Constitution for Somalia; Letter to TFG leaders (copy SRSG), dated 26 September 2011, recommending Puntland nominees to join the Committee of Experts (COE), in accordance with the Roadmap, and this proposal was unanswered; Letter to TFG Prime Minister (copy SRSG) regarding addition of one Puntland nominee to the Committee of Experts (COE), dated 23 January 2012, which was also ignored; The Puntland President’s speech at London Conference on 23 February 2012, calling for IFCC mandate to be terminated and the COE to be reformed, based on expertise, and calling for the COE to include constitutional experts from mature federal democracies. Puntland Government warns this Draft Federal Constitution should not be presented to National Constituent Assembly (NCA) for adoption, unless major changes to the Draft are applied and agreed upon by Somali stakeholders, with the technical assistance of international partners. Somalia needs a Federal Constitution that clearly defines the distribution of political power and resource between Federal and State institutions, in accordance with international federal standards, and defines competency in the delivery of public goods to citizens of Somalia, at Federal and State levels, as is defined in the Puntland State Constitution. Moreover, this Draft Federal Constitution is seemingly designed for a country with a highly centralized system of government, and many articles of the Draft are confusing and contradictory. Finally, Puntland Government believes that Somalia needs a well-tailored Federal Constitution that is suitable to political realities in the fragmented nation of Somalia, and which satisfies the people’s aspirations for the restoration of an effective, efficient and accountable government in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 11, 2012 MoonLight1;829144 wrote: This move is designed to get the constitution the max support, PL knows if they say No, everyone else will say YES. watch the space it will be passed with big majority. I will not be surprised if it passes in its current form simply because Puntland opposed it. Malab baa loo mariyaa wixii Puntland diiddo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul Posted May 11, 2012 So the letter was genuine after all,he played his cards close to his chest this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted May 11, 2012 xiin jooji fowdada Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiimaaya Posted May 11, 2012 Puntland wants The somali constitution to be changed and ratified in foreign land like Addis,Ethiopia to appease their demands. well thats ******.... Had they said Moqadisho or garowe that would have been the right thing...GTFOH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted May 12, 2012 Dabrow;828956 wrote: Spoilers will face sanctions. lol...So Farole is on the spoilers side now? xiinfaniin;829147 wrote: I will not be surprised if it passes in its current form simply because Puntland opposed it. Malab baa loo mariyaa wixii Puntland diiddo Ballanteennii ha illoobin, sowtaan ku kala tagnay in laga dhaadhiciyo beelaha in dastuurka la marsiiyo... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted May 12, 2012 There is some minor issues with a few critical articles in the constitution which has been tampered with by a frew corrupt individuals who I will not name!!! Those articles will be rectified and Puntland will sign off on the ratification process for the historical somali FEDERAL constitution!!! Corrupt individuals in mogadishu are also tampering with the isimo because they have no shame!!! Puntland is not an obstacle to peace those individuals in mogadishu and they know who they are get your act together and stop being an obstacle to peace!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted May 12, 2012 Codka diidmada qayaxan oo puntland hadda haysato waa ka wareegayaa hadii dastuurkaan la ansaxiyo Bal halaga war sugo wada tashi baa adis ababa ka socdee!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 12, 2012 This is just absurd. We need a decentralized unitary state, not greater federalism. Carole and his admin are now officially spoilers that are against ending the transition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faarah22 Posted May 12, 2012 is that not still federalism or....? please explain this decentalized unitary state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 12, 2012 In a decentralized state, there is only one powerful central government a bit like the 60s one. The difference is that the regional governors have more power. So do the local district councils. They are also elected through the ballot rather than from Muqdisho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 13, 2012 the draft is still not public. but It seems the Federal experiment in Somalia is over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites