Is secession justified with the existence of a stable and peaceful south?

[Qandalawi]

Referendum where? In the SSC regions to see whether they want to unite with SL or not?

 

Secession is justified, Somalia is a small country population wise and unity is vital for a whole lot of reasons. Its not unity for sake of unity but unity for a purpose - strength, economical and political competitiveness and for the long term survival of Somalis in the region. So, it will be about measuring the pros and cons of unity, whichever one outweigh the other should be opted for.

[burahadeer]

@farah...what country!Italian somalia and British somalia.2 different entities been separate for millenia.

you can't even win in debate let alone in history!

 

@ Qandalawi....SSC is negligible , not even 0.05 of the population.They claimed entire regions that's not theirs just to break up SL,now we won't let them off the hook.Let's fight it out.They agreed & signed at every conference & document ,it's only now they see south seem crawling to peace.They be back if somalia return to myhem.Opportunist will lose either way!

 

BTW , SSC is not majority on any of regions they claiming.The closest could be SOOL & I be surprised if they get 40%.

Don't listen to huuhaaa.

[burahadeer]

Loool burahadeer some even believe. Living with out sl is meaningless.

 

 

 

 

seems so seeing incessant cries,fake unionists lashing out at every ant comes across!

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Qandalawi;828327 wrote:

Referendum where? In the SSC regions to see whether they want to unite with SL or not?

 

Secession is justified, Somalia is a small country population wise and unity is vital for a whole lot of reasons. Its not unity for sake of unity but unity for a purpose - strength, economical and political competitiveness and for the long term survival of Somalis in the region. So, it will be about measuring the pros and cons of unity, whichever one outweigh the other should be opted for.

Referendum for all of Somaliland all the regions awdal sanaag soool togdheer maroodijeex saaxil etc etc

Lets see the will of the people.

[faarah22]

you're delusional to say the least. millenia kulaha. somali peninsula was one since time immemorial. with camel herders moving wherever they pleased. what are you talking about?. even in the so called SL, only one clan agitates for this treachery. as they are looking for political gains at the expense of other clans.

[burahadeer]

faarah22;828551 wrote:

you're delusional to say the least. millenia kulaha. somali peninsula was one since time immemorial. with camel herders moving wherever they pleased. what are you talking about?. even in the so called SL, only one clan agitates for this treachery. as they are looking for political gains at the expense of other clans.

 

wel, wel, well try whateva at your disposal...ma hadluunbaynu wadi.

[Complicated]

burahadeer;828471 wrote:

 

@ Qandalawi....SSC is negligible , not even 0.05 of the population.They claimed entire regions that's not theirs just to break up SL,now we won't let them off the hook.Let's fight it out.They agreed & signed at every conference & document ,it's only now they see south seem crawling to peace.They be back if somalia return to myhem.Opportunist will lose either way!

 

Iyo Waliba

 

infact reality is much different & that the only way you can stop SL is by force

,til then keep talking .All these SSC & the likes don't even constitute 1% of the population.Ask what has stalled your gun trotting ragtag army?

Iyo kan kalee isagana dhinaca kale ka doodaya ee leh

 

faarah22;828551 wrote:

what are you talking about?. even in the so called SL, only one clan agitates for this treachery. as they are looking for political gains at the expense of other clans.

Ileen dadka waxaa ugu liita diin laawe qabiil aaminsan. At least Garnaqsi seems to use reason markuu doodayo, idinka mee reasonkii iyo logic aad isticmaasheen to deduce inaynan diini jirin, maad kaa isticmaashaan to see what qabiil is? midda kale why baad u derail garaynaysaan topica, dee ama ka jawaaba su'aasha ama qashinka meesha kala taga.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Xaaji Xunjuf;828521 wrote:

Referendum for all of Somaliland all the regions awdal sanaag soool togdheer maroodijeex saaxil etc etc

Lets see the will of the people.

Will this be 1 electoral vote per region or will it be by popular vote? You obviously know that Somalis will not vote based on Ideas..they will vote along clan/tribes.

[faarah22]

stay with the topic and that diin lawe nonsense is not part of the debate. so where do you come down yourself ?

[burahadeer]

Iyo kan kalee isagana dhinaca kale ka doodaya ee leh

 

 

 

Ileen dadka waxaa ugu liita diin laawe qabiil aaminsan. At least Garnaqsi seems to use reason markuu doodayo, idinka mee reasonkii iyo logic aad isticmaasheen to deduce inaynan diini jirin, maad kaa isticmaashaan to see what qabiil is? midda kale why baad u derail garaynaysaan topica, dee ama ka jawaaba su'aasha ama qashinka meesha kala taga.[/quote

 

 

you can argue qabiil based when reality hit you in the face.Which eva way I put you say same...qabiil.

[Paragon]

Since SL did not already secede it has not therefore seceded. Thus, it can never secede. See?

 

So the question is totally wrong.

[Raamsade]

The most common argument used by the proponents of Somaliland's secession is that Somaliland was "cheated" by Southern Somali politicians from date the union was formed to the breakout of the civil war. This "cheating" predates the descent of S. Somalia into hobbesian nightmare. The chaos and instability in S. Somalia is ad hoc argument floated only because it makes eminent sense. But it isn't the core argument.

 

The irony in all of this is that it was originally "southern" Somalis in particular the leaders of Bay and Bakool communities who vehemently opposed the union of British and Italian Somaliland. Those "southern" leaders thought, rightly, that their power and share of resources will be diluted by the union of the two Somalilands. Somalilanders on the other hand were all agog to join Italian Somaliland. Today, it is the other way around. Oh, how times have changed.

[Samsung]

I am in favor of War with Somalidiid than talks.

 

If they can win a war without crying genocide, we shall give them their statehood. Until than everyone just shut the **** up about this issue.

 

Thank You.

[burahadeer]

Bacaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac..you already lost big,next time you be colonized.Who is crying round the clock like deserted widow.

oohin badanaa dadkani.

[rudy-Diiriye]

U shouldnt worry about sillyland...when the xabashi bf splits...and pirateland hires the chings to destroy sillyland...Forget about usa n Democratic bs...chings r the new kings!!

 

then they be knocking the door bell again. However, this time it aint be gonna free of charge....they will have to make the jacksons rain before the door opens! believe that.