Qandalawi Posted May 6, 2012 The vast majority of these traditional elders are legit, at least the ones I know. However, the whole 4.5 thing is an overkill, a disgusting system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walaalkis Posted May 6, 2012 why do got the feeling this will be worse,of gathering ? Elders ? God help us. This resembles whenever the european settlers want to grab more of the natives land , they call the gathering of native elders for seduction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 7, 2012 “Ma jiro shir Soomaaliya ah oo aan tagayaa, ama la igu casuumay, wax iga khuseeyaana ma jirto Soomaaliya”Sul Xuseen X. Cabdi Written by: Editor Published: 06/05/2012 @21:13 Hargeysa (Togaherer)- Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi oo ka mid ah salaadiinta gobolka Hargeysa, ayaa caawa shaaca ka qaaday inaanu jirin wax shir ah oo Soomaaliya ah oo uu tagayo ama lagu casuumay. Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi oo la soo xidhiidhay Qaar Ka mid Ah Warbaahinta ayaa si adag u naqdiyay una beeniyay liiska salaadiin badan oo Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland-ba iskugu jiray oo magaciisu ku jiray oo wargeysyada ka soo baxa magaaladda Hargeysa qaarkood ay maanta daabaceen ka dib markii la sheegay in laga soo xigtay dawladda TFG-da Soomaaliya. “Saaka markii aan kacay ayaa la ila soo hadlay oo la ii sheegay in magacaygu ku jiro liiska salaadiin tagaya Muqdisho oo dawladda Soomaaliya casuuntay. Waxaan cadaynayaa inaanu jirin baahina aanan u qabin inaan tago shirarka dalka Soomaaliya. Ma jiro shir la igu casuumay ama aan aniguba tagayaa oo Soomaaliya ah, mana jirto wax iga khuseeya arrimaha dalkaasi,”ayuu yidhi Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi. Suldaanku wuxuu sheegay in Somaliland leedahay dawlad madax-banaan oo shacbigu ay si toos ah u soo doorteen, isagoo arrintaasi ka hadlayayna wuxuu yidhi “Somaliland waa dal madax-banaan oo leh dawlad shacbigu soo doorteen iyo dastuur umaddu ku ansixisay 97%, sidaasi darteed, waxaan u arkaa gef iyo meel ka dhac la igu sameeyay waxaanan cadaynteeddii ka rabaa Wargeysyadii warkan iga qoray.” Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi wuxuu sheegay in uu madax-banaanida dalkiisa lexjeclo weyn ka qabo, waxaanu tilmaamay inay xukuumadda kala shaqeeyaan dhinaca nabad-gelyadda iyo wada jirka dalka. Cumar Maxamed Faarax Somaliland.Org/Hargeysa cumarmfaarax@hotmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted May 7, 2012 ^^ Oh yes, the conference will collapse because whoever this is didn't attend. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 7, 2012 list is fake sxb. most of tree block sultans on the list did not attend Muqadisho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted May 7, 2012 Carafaat;827472 wrote: list is fake sxb. most of tree block sultans on the list did not attend Muqadisho. I agree with you, but most of them sent delegates just like the one representing moi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 7, 2012 Carafaat;827462 wrote: “Ma jiro shir Soomaaliya ah oo aan tagayaa, ama la igu casuumay, wax iga khuseeyaana ma jirto Soomaaliya”Sul Xuseen X. Cabdi Written by: Editor Published: 06/05/2012 @21:13 Hargeysa (Togaherer)- Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi oo ka mid ah salaadiinta gobolka Hargeysa, ayaa caawa shaaca ka qaaday inaanu jirin wax shir ah oo Soomaaliya ah oo uu tagayo ama lagu casuumay. Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi oo la soo xidhiidhay Qaar Ka mid Ah Warbaahinta ayaa si adag u naqdiyay una beeniyay liiska salaadiin badan oo Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland-ba iskugu jiray oo magaciisu ku jiray oo wargeysyada ka soo baxa magaaladda Hargeysa qaarkood ay maanta daabaceen ka dib markii la sheegay in laga soo xigtay dawladda TFG-da Soomaaliya. “Saaka markii aan kacay ayaa la ila soo hadlay oo la ii sheegay in magacaygu ku jiro liiska salaadiin tagaya Muqdisho oo dawladda Soomaaliya casuuntay. Waxaan cadaynayaa inaanu jirin baahina aanan u qabin inaan tago shirarka dalka Soomaaliya. Ma jiro shir la igu casuumay ama aan aniguba tagayaa oo Soomaaliya ah, mana jirto wax iga khuseeya arrimaha dalkaasi,”ayuu yidhi Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi. Suldaanku wuxuu sheegay in Somaliland leedahay dawlad madax-banaan oo shacbigu ay si toos ah u soo doorteen, isagoo arrintaasi ka hadlayayna wuxuu yidhi “Somaliland waa dal madax-banaan oo leh dawlad shacbigu soo doorteen iyo dastuur umaddu ku ansixisay 97%, sidaasi darteed, waxaan u arkaa gef iyo meel ka dhac la igu sameeyay waxaanan cadaynteeddii ka rabaa Wargeysyadii warkan iga qoray.” Suldaan Xuseen X. Cabdi Cabdilaahi wuxuu sheegay in uu madax-banaanida dalkiisa lexjeclo weyn ka qabo, waxaanu tilmaamay inay xukuumadda kala shaqeeyaan dhinaca nabad-gelyadda iyo wada jirka dalka. Cumar Maxamed Faarax Somaliland.Org/Hargeysa cumarmfaarax@hotmail.com Thats the Baligubadle Sultan today Sultan Muhammad Sultan Abdulqadir spoke as well Suldaanka Guud Non of the Somaliland elders went to Mogadishu except the khatumo guys iyaguna way iska miirsan doonan akhirka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 7, 2012 Somalia;827478 wrote: I agree with you, but most of them sent delegates just like the one representing moi. Adiga ma Islaanti ayaan ku tagtay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 7, 2012 I don't know who is publicizing this fake list, it is on every website now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted May 7, 2012 Boqor Burmadoow is (unfortuantly) in jail. And non of the real habro Suldaan is in Miqdisho. Even the Sultan of all Sultan's Sultan Mahamed Sultan Abdiwadir, who has participated in Artah has stayed home. Well, most of them can't read or write anyway. Let alone understand the content of the constitution. So who cares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faarax-Brawn Posted May 7, 2012 Whatever the list is, if the Fomula is the same 4.5, Then it is doomed to fail.(because it hasnt worked before). There is over representation and UNDER representation. Why would it be different now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 7, 2012 ^^The list does not reflect the actual participants of the six day UN seminar in Mogadishu. Hiiraan Online is in the opposition camp with respect to the road map process to end the transition. They are with General Indhacadde and Professor Yalaxow, the latter-day nationalists Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 7, 2012 I don't understand why people are against 4.5 it works for now u guys act as if there is another alternative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 7, 2012 4.5 is an agreed workaround for the problem of how to share power in a failed state. We will do away with it after the transition Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites