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Prime Minister Abdi-Wali's blunder: The real cause of the Constitution uproar

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Yunis   

yes - I have read it - there is plenty of well placed criticism that can be leveled against this constitution. One doesn't have to be blind cynic or charade opponents of this constitution - just because "All Puntlanders" seem to be for it, to find gaps with regards to birth rights, citizenship, the extent of Islamic law in government, and totally muted clause of the legal borders both land or sea.

 

None of those, however, should be the basis of rejecting this document, but, amending them as needed. Given this is " Dastuur aan dhamaystiran " with none other than Prime minister C-Wali committee of over 900 individuals from all Somali stake-holders was planned to be setup to rectify it. - the debate on the content of a document that is yet to be ratified, voted, or amended is futile debate.

 

The real issue is how the TFG and PM. Gas in particular handled or created the issue?.

 

 

This whole debacle was the failure of PM. Gas's doing - who was neither prepared nor had any media strategy on the initial tabling of this document. he started this fire storm. initially, when the media quizzed, on certain aspects of the document that people found objectionable, he countered "Dad isbaaro u dhigankaro maleh dastuurkan". All that was needed, was for him to defuse the situation, by stating that there is planned committee to review it, vote, and their concerns will be addressed at that time.

 

On the contrary, he was more defiant, and dismissive on subsequent days by raggedy up the tough talk - saying those appose 'waa dad'aan aqoon sida wax loo akhriyo'. What makes PM Gas's failure more plausible is not only his indifference to his responsibility of playing a mediator role, but also his willingness to open himself up to scrutiny by serving as the instigator surrounding the issue, as supposed to defusing it.

 

It was combination of lack of foresight and his combative Faroole style talk which raised the stakes higher, turning a none issue to an anger and resentment all on his own - to this end the PM Gas showed his inability to garner confident, get ahead on the pr front or win consensus in producing a framework document for generations.

 

Further, taunting any one appose to any of the 179 articles in the document, its him who created the initial uproar, it was also, him who gave "spoilers" a cause to misinform the masses. Even, as the president buckled under fire , putting him cross-path with his PM. Mr Gas, still was not able to grasp, change his tone, to ease doubters and offer consultation regarding this issue.

MR.Gas dropped the ball on this one, his tough talks are not frank nor paint a picture of candid politician.

 

Faroole's minions in sol or Xiin himself may conveniently get away by disparaging those against any dhambaal of the constitution are spoilers of past two decades - but they will not avoid the architect who triggered it as a PR disaster.

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Somalia   

I can't believe I wasted time reading this bull when your main grievance is the media handling... Give us the articles for God's sake, go ahead.

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Somalia;825554 wrote:
I can't believe I wasted time reading this bull when your main grievance is the media handling... Give us the articles for God's sake, go ahead.

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Yunis, I agree.

 

The PM should have stepped up to the podium, grabbed the mic, said "here's your damn constitution", then dropped the mic hard and walked the hell away!

 

Look, run ma la rabaa misa been? Every one KNEW that it's temporary and that it was gonna be worked on. It's just that people already had this preconceived notion, and let that run the rest. It's hardly a surprise to anyone that those who oppose the PM, his work, or Dowlad period, would be critical of the doc from the go. He could have said that each citizen would be getting a million bucks, and these people would still oppose this. On the flip side it's not a surprise either that those for the PM, it, or any form of governance, regardless of what's in the articles would be supportive, or defensive of this. it's just how this thing goes.

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^So true, no matter how long is spent convincing these people or even amending the citizenship clause or other little things they will still find an excuse to refuse it, so the PM was right on marching forward and need no give attention to such naysayers. All their agenda is to drag the Somali issue and delay or nullify the road map, the constitution is a scapegoat.

 

Yunis, overlooking the little things that can be amended at anytime and in which almost every constitution has or will ever have, there is absolutely nothing major that's wrong with the constitution. It's straight forward and self explanatory, it belongs to the Somali people, thus the PM need no spend time or prepare massive media campaign to promote the constitution, no need for that after all there is nothing wrong with it, wixi qurun iyo khalad kujiraan baa media iyo PR compaign loo isticmaala si loo qurxiya. Obviously that's not the case here.

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Carafaat   

Yunis, what people object are not the PM words but the whole proces of drafting, amending and now approving this document. But it seems you haven't read the objections.

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Yunis   

Qandalaawi - its obvious what is missing are not a major pieces but a details that needs amending, true. But the PM insisted to get tough, knowing full well there was no need for it - which he only escalated the whole matter.

 

Carafaat, waan arkay waxa laga qaylinayo - from Sh. bashir to the professors. their main grievance waa process of drafting. dee what process? maxaa drafting ah - since there is a time and place to discuss and vote on it articles by article.

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Yunis has a point in how the process has been managed. It could have vastly been improved, the PM office in particular could have been more proactive, not reactionary as they seem to be doing now.

 

Still there is nothing in this draft constitution that warrants the level of opposition that dominated in the public airwaves. Given the context in which this discussion is being conducted, Somalis should know better and support the process of ending the transition.

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yunis since you read can you please clarify why majority object & minority accept.You have such unlikely alliances againest,like:

 

TFG

Ali khalif

samater etc.

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Yunis   

burahadeer;825811 wrote:
yunis since you read can you please clarify why majority object & minority accept.You have such unlikely alliances againest,like:

 

TFG

Ali khalif

samater etc.

Speaking of unlikely alliances, another irony was this issue coincided positions of ururka al-ictisaam which has heavy weights like sh. Umal & haruun...as members and Dusting off old distain warlords in which successive tfg entities were able to rebuke them successfully.

 

As for the perception of majority being against, from reading it – This is an excellent document which sets out the frame work for a supreme law in all aspects of society, very good draft with gaps and objectionable parameters to some of the articles, what it is ‘not, however is, an outright treachery & betrayal of Somali’s sovereignty and immoral doc against Islam that should be abolished as some charge.

 

It was PM Gas and MR Hosh's failure and their hasty deliberation to conclude this document delivery before June 3rd in Istanbul and the subsequent macho mantra that fuelled & endured this Majority against vs Minority for it.

 

I seriously doubt the real quarrel that sparked the fire, was ever about specifics as some pretend.

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Yunis;825876 wrote:

 

I seriously doubt the real quarrel that sparked the fire, was ever about specifics as some pretend.

 

think so,like your analysis unlike cyber warriors.

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Somalia   

Yunis has yet to put forward something substantial. All we here is that we don't like the public relations angle. Well deal with it, it's happening, cause if it is stalled it will never happen.

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Odey   

You can all read the document on the link below. I tend to agree with Yunis on this. I am in Mogm and the whole argument by those against is based on pure lies. They claim it doesn't map out the territory, is against Islam and will sell us to the highest bidder. Actually the document is to be commended in its thoroughness, but I agree with Yunis in that they handled it rather badly.

 

There is another point everyone needs to consider, The transition MUST end if we are to survive as a people or we will be sold to the highest bidder for slavery.

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