Madaxweyne Sharif oo magacaabay guddiga wada-haddalka Somaliland

[General Duke]

AfricaOwn;818663 wrote:

Then these negotiations are held just for the sake of negotiating. What's the point? You don't even want to come somewhere in between. You're a unionist you say, and they're secessionists...something has to give. I really, really, really think SL wont backtrack.

You can think what you want. Secession is not an option and wont be one. Greater autonomy, power sharing and devolution of power are all on the table.

 

I am a unionist, but I am realistic I don't believe in centralization and power to all be centered in one group, or regions hands.

Thus this will serve as the foundation of the new Somalia. One which has learned from its past.

[AfricaOwn]

General Duke;818665 wrote:

You can think what you want. Secession is not an option and wont be one. Greater autonomy, power sharing and devolution of power are all on the table.

 

I am a unionist, but I am realistic I don't believe in centralization and power to all be centered in one group, or regions hands.

Thus this will serve as the foundation of the new Somalia. One which has learned from its past.

 

Hear yourself out, secession is not an option because dukey and his co-defendants say so?

 

SL says you're huffing and puffing for no reason. Your goal is to push around a giant sphere, they're hard to move. Think of a different strategy already, you're a great propagandist - i trust that you can win the hearts of some like NG....Switch up your style homie.

[General Duke]

I am just being honest. Secession is not an option and most educated SNM members deep down understand that to be the truth...

However if you want to keep daydreaming, by all means ahead enjoy yourself..

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Africa own don't waste ur time on duke we all know what he is going to say Somalia is one we are united at the same time long live clan federalism , Down with the evil secessionists at the same time he advocates for clan federalism so that every clan lives in his own little village. But its good that Somaliland and Somalia are talking they might agree on something lets wait and see.

[General Duke]

Xaaji Xunjuf;818672 wrote:

Africa own don't waste ur time on duke we all know what he is going to say Somalia is one we are united at the same time long live clan federalism , Down with the evil secessionists at the same time he advocates for clan federalism so that every clan lives in his own little village. But its good that Somaliland and Somalia are talking they might agree on something lets wait and see.

A Freudian slip I guess. Your "president, speaker, head of opposition parties" are all from the SNM clan, yet you talk about clan federalism.

All the key power positions is in the hands of the SNM clan, the myth and history of the State you are seeking independence for is SNM clan mth and bravado. Even the terrorists you support Godane, Afghani are from the SNM clan. The one minister you praise in Mogadishu, Xuseen Ciise Arab is from the SNM clan. You have even gone as far as to explain this as support for "Ethnic Somalilanders". ...You are a walking clan fascist sir.

 

What I want is a single Somalia where every region takes care of its own and strengthens the union of the people who are a single ethnic group, single religion and language. These people are called Somali and their nation is Somalia...

[AfricaOwn]

General Duke;818677 wrote:

A Freudian slip I guess. Your

"president, speaker, head of opposition parties"

are all from the SNM clan, yet you talk about clan federalism.

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How many times are you going to change your arguments? Not too long ago, Riyaale was "mugging" the SNM crew. Who is the current Vice President?

[Shinbir Majabe]

Duke, afkaaga caana kuleel lagu qabay... ishaa ka riday!

[AfricaOwn]

General Duke;818677 wrote:

 

What I want is a single Somalia where every region takes care of its own and strengthens the union of the people who are a single ethnic group, single religion and language. These people are called Somali and their nation is Somalia...

That approach would be a clear failure of the gates. The people will be more identified with their regions/clans rather than come together as one. Just look at what's happening with people like Dr Osman and the folks from garowe that forgot what the somali national flag looks like, why - because they have regional one now.

 

 

Federalism won't work in Somalia please get this through your head.

[General Duke]

AfricaOwn;818678 wrote:

How many times are you going to change your arguments? Not too long ago, Riyaale was "mugging" the SNM crew. Who is the current Vice President?

You remember how that used to annoy the SNM secessionists. Now they have all the power in every position and still no independence...

[General Duke]

AfricaOwn;818683 wrote:

That approach would be a clear failure of the gates. The people will be more identified with their regions/clans with that approach. Just look at what's happening with people like Dr Osman and the folks from garowe that forgot what the somali national flag looks like because they have regional one now....

Its like saying the people of MN, TX, FL don't know they are part of the U.S.? With time my brother people will travel freely, marry each other and live where they want to and then things will change. What we have now is the fear and paranoia that has been built throughout the war period. This will change in no time when the militias have been disarmed the country has been opened up.

[Qaranki]

Will Ilkajir ask if he can visit his home town?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Duke you don't believe in Somalia you believe in Puntland hegemony over Somalia you supported when Faroole was threatening Sh sharifs government when you're clan didn't get the Prime Minister position suddenly faroole supports the TFG i wonder why?

 

Duke wants a weak Somalia where clan federal states call the shots with a weak central government so that he can threaten the central government when ever he wants.You are a country with in a country with you're own constitution army police navy parliament all in the hands of one clan no elections are taking place. Where one clan has more than 31 seats in the Parliament it makes it impossible for other clans in the garowe clan enclave to even think about becoming president in you're enclave. You did support Cabdilahi Yusuf even when he used Somalia's arch enemy to destroy the Somali Capital no my friend you are no nationalist. You support Cabdi Cawar because he is you're clan cousin but you didn't support farmaajo but you did support cumar buur what do they all have in common??.I never supported clan federalism i want Somalia to remain one and a strong state instead of being divided along clan lines Puntland ximan iyo xeeb waax iyo waadi mareeg state galmudug jubaland etc etc but my good friend duke doesn't see that blinded by Qabyalaad may allah guide you brother.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Qaranki;818686 wrote:

Will Ilkajir ask if he can visit his home town?

 

:D

[AfricaOwn]

General Duke;818685 wrote:

Its like saying the people of MN, TX, FL don't know they are part of the U.S.? With time my brother people will travel freely, marry each other and live where they want to and then things will change. What we have now is the fear and paranoia that has been built throughout the war period. This will change in no time when the militias have been disarmed the country has been opened up.

This is absurd...

 

The people of MN, TX, and FL all do know they're part of the US. If a Texan drives over to Alabama he would be pointed out that his out of state because his car plate gives him away. The US doesn't have this clan mess that Somalia brings.

[General Duke]

Xaaji Xunjuf;818690 wrote:

Duke you don't believe in Somalia you believe in Puntland hegemony over Somalia you supported when Faroole was threatening Sh sharifs government when you're clan didn't get the Prime Minister position suddenly faroole supports the TFG i wonder why?

 

Duke wants a weak Somalia where clan federal states call the shots with a weak central government so that he can threaten the central government when ever he wants.You are a country with in a country with you're own constitution army police navy parliament all in the hands of one clan no elections where one clan has more than 31 seats in the Parliament it makes it impossible for other clans in the garowe clan enclave to even think about becoming president in you're enclave. You did support Cabdilahi Yusuf even when he used Somalia's arch enemy to destroy the Somali Capital no my friend you are no nationalist. You support Cabdi Cawar because he is you're clan cousin but you didn't support farmaajo but you did support cumar buur what do they all have in common??.I never supported clan federalism i want Somalia to remain one and a strong state instead of being divided along clan lines Puntland ximan iyo xeeb waax iyo waadi mareeg state galmudug jubaland etc etc but my good friend duke doesn't see that blinded by Qabyalaad may allah guide you brother.

 

XX, you are a secessionist, you support the break up of Somalia. You are the man who coined the absurd term "Ethnic Somalilander".. In order to differentiate the "Konfurienas" from your clan, as if they are two different tribes and nations.

You support Ethiopia when ever Siilanyu is visiting the Addis Abba you praise the strong ties and brotherly bonds between Secessionists regions and Ethiopia. You then turn religious in support of "Amiir" and welcome his actions in the South and even wish for attacks in Puntland.

 

Your deluded by clan, even the Galmudug that you mention is no more than a tool to attack what you perceive to be your true enemy in Somalia. Your record speaks for itself, you have matched your adeer Faisal Cali Warrabe who stated "the child born in Addis is closer to me than the one born in Mogadishu" you came out with the memorable "Ethnic Somalilanders". That is your legacy, but go on and froth from the mouth.