The Somalia-Somaliland talks Thread

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Samafal Dawlada Kumeel gaadhka so xubo kuma jiran ka so jeeda sida Cabdi Cawar iyo qaar kalo badan dee meesha dawlada dhexe eh Somalia iyo dawlada dhexe eeh Somaliland ba wada hadlaya adigu ma waxad rabta inanu wada hadalada ku so dhex darno mayorka laascaanoodor something caqli gal maha waxani dee.

[Samafal]

Adeer waad ogtahay raga aad ka kaadsayshid been ha isku sheegin, ee hadaad rabtid aqoonsi ama madaxtinim iyaga kala hadal wax aadan ahayna ha iska dhigin

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Samafal hargeysa iyo xamar ba midoobay 52 sanno ka hor iyagi uun ba wada hadlaya hadana wa sida arinku hadaad diidaysid dee waa yeelkada:D

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Puntland is part of the TFG and constitutes a large part of the country. There's nothing wrong with it getting seats at the table.

 

Just like Faroole told you guys while you were laughing, you were proven wrong again. The lesson here is, Puntland is always present, even when you are sleeping, we'll be under the bed.

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Samafal;820564 wrote:

Ciduu rabo buu kusoo darayaa. haduu rabo Ximan iyo xeeb soocan buu keenayaa, adiga hebel baa ku jira ee halaga saaro, wax soconaya oo caqli gal ah ma aha, international communityga yeelimayso. Puntland TFG bay ka mid tahay, dadka lagu soo daranay waa muwaadiniin Somliyeed. Adigu maxaa uga baqaysaa xasuuqii

Buhodle iyo Laascaanood

baa diidanthay in meesha la keen, kii hargaysana lagu gor gortamo. wax soconaya ma ah adeer caqli kale la imoow.

Lascanood and Buhoodle ha lagala hadlo Puntland.

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I Didn’t Come Here To Mediate Says UN Envoy

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Somaliland (Somalilandpress) The United Nation special envoy to Somalia and Somaliland Mr Augustine Mahiga arrived in Hargeisa a day after Somaliland government announced its decision to pull out of the proposed talks with Somaliland.

 

He was received by the Somaliland Foreign Minister Dr Mohamed Abdillahi Omar, speaking to reporters upon his arrival in the VIP lounge Mr. Augustine Mahiga told reporters he was on a regularly periodic visit to Somaliland, and that he was happy to visit the country.

 

The UN envoy revealed the purpose of his visit was to the office (UNOPS) which has a permanent presence in the country, he add that it is always refreshing to visiting Somaliland because the continuous achievement taking place in and all round such as in the areas of peace stability and socio economic development .

 

Ambassador Mahiga said Somaliland is a key player in both regional and international issues such piracy but at the same time we come to learn in Somaliland because of the many achievement ,said Mr. Mahiga and also to thank Somaliland government for the great effort it has undertaken in responding to drought and the famine in the past view months, not to forget the noble gesture by the government of Somaliland for allowing Its territory to be used for distribution of emergency relief assistance to other parts of the Horn of Africa.

 

Envoy Mahiga said it is a pleasure for me to visiting Somaliland and that I always feel at home in Somaliland because it is a place that I draw in inspirational, and I also feel very much welcomed, he added during my stay I will be discussing wide range of issues with government officials.

 

Somaliland press correspondent asked the UN envoy if he was in the country to convince the Somaliland government to come back to the table after the opted out of the talks with the TFG one day ago, after the TFG President Sh. Sharif appointed two more facilitators in addition to the previous seven.

 

Ambassador Mahiga answered no, but this is a bilateral issue certainly do understand that in any kind of discussion there are always issues that preside the agenda I still believe the dialogue is still going on and before any serious discussions begin there are always modalities of how the talks should proceed and at these stage It is definitely an issue that rest with the two capital.

 

I would be following any new developments with a keen interest, said the envoy but at the moment I don’t have any specific message that I bring with me regarding this matter but the whole world is watching with a keen eye to see what will come out of these and hopefully I think there will be a mutual agreeable formula arrangement to begin this talks.

 

Somalilandpress

Biggest English-Somali news portal

Friday, April 20, 2012

Reported by Goth Mohamed, Somalilandpress, Hargeisa

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Why Somaliland should not engage in talks with Somalia right now

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By Salma A Sheikh

 

Somaliland wants Somalia to, finally, concede that Somaliland’s independence is irrevocable. The Transitional Federal Government (TFG) of Somalia, on the other hand, is in a blatant denial of Somaliland’s rights and decision to reclaim its sovereignty, and withdraw from the July 1st 1960’s, still bending for ratification, union. The TFG’s, current, standpoint undermines, with similar obliviousness, the political relationship of the two, if any exist. The TFG, constantly, and in every opportunity claims that Somaliland is part of what it represents. The truth, however, is that the TFG has no influence in Somaliland and, probably, considering the short period mandated for the TFG to last, it will have zero impact on Somaliland, in the future.

 

Such are irreconcilable facts and, thus, Somaliland shouldn’t have, even, attempted an arbitration process with the TFG, at the moment. The decision president Ahmed Mohamed Mohamud (Silanyo) has, recently, taken on selecting five charismatic ministers from his government cabinet to engage a process of arbitration with the TFG on the issues of Somalia and Somaliland’s current political affairs, is hasty and, quite frankly, a baffling one. Such engagement is fruitless, at the moment, for both Somalia, who are in a transition, and Somaliland, who should, only, talk with a central and permanent government representing Somalia, not Mogadishu and/or Garoowe.

 

Somalia’s TFG is in a twilight zone, right now. Sheikh Sharif’s team is in a desperate dash to create a portfolio of ‘being there and done that’ sort of entries to convince the 22nd February London Conference on Somalia signatories, who mandated the TFG to commit to positive changes, including forming a central and representative government for Somalia. Engaging talks with Somaliland is a recommendation issued at the London Conference’s Communiqué, it is not an obligation. This recommendation, however, would have served an admirable effort and top entry for the TFG and its portfolio, have they initiated the process, and followed legal and transparent procedures. Such effort from the TFG, furthermore, would have presented success, if the two countries [somalia and Somaliland] reach a mutual agreement. Indeed, a one less thing to thwart the efforts that the international community are making to restore law and order in Somalia, and huge success for the war against extremisms of terrorism, Sea piracy, famine, and mass migration, which, today, stem out from the region.

 

Somaliland’s kick-start of this arbitration process is a policy, which seems to assist the antagonist administrations of Somalia, whom are doomed to fail. The TFG’s, recent and careless, meddling of Somaliland’s internal affairs has depicted Sheikh Sharif as an unfriendly political figure of Somalia. His policy is a hostile one for the peoples of Somalia and Somaliland. The TFG is in the way of many things that could lead the citizens of Somaliland and Somalia to attain peace and prosperity, and, thus, peacefully coexist as two brotherly nations. The TFG’s unjustifiable grip onto Somaliland and its independence and the deluded belief it is spearheading to represent who and what is Somalia, today, is just inexact and unwarranted account of the TFG’s contribution to the history of the Somali peoples. Such distorted history creates further discord between the peoples of Somalia and Somaliland, who, since the 1960’s rushed union, have burdened each other under the former totalitarian regime of late Mohamed Siyad Bare. The inconsiderate political agenda of the TFG, which has been, arguably, influenced by those who care less about Somali peoples’ cohesion and peaceful coexistence, is hostile and unacceptable one.

 

When Sheikh Sharif was one of the leaders of the Islamic Courts, which was listed a terrorist group and was, consequently, dismantled by the West and their allies in the region, he, often, accused the international community of meddling with Somalia’s internal affairs and dividing the country. This was a stance that brought him support from many communities in Somalia. Sheikh Sharif’s, recent, involvement in Somaliland’s internal affairs is hypocritical, and it conspires the same political deviation he accused the West for. His attempt to cause fragmentation in Somaliland by, illegally, recognising regions of that country is devious. Sheikh Sharif praised Somaliland for its successes during his speech at the London Conference, and he is, arguably, the first TFG leader to, correctly, refer the Republic of Somaliland as Somaliland. Having said that, Sheikh Sharif, thoughtlessly, announced his recognition for the, so called, Khatumo State, which claims to represent regions in Somaliland. His move was a political detriment that could jeopardise any potential diplomatic relations between Somalia and Somaliland.

 

The political gaffe of the Sharif’s move, or immaturity as some may argue, emerged after the TFG leader has met with one of the three presidents of Ali Galaydh’s scheme, and then, without consultation, of any sort, announced his recognition for it [Khatumo State]. His team was, somehow, quick to rectify their leader’s blunder, and dismissed his inadmissible decision. There are indications that such rectification might have came, too, late. The damage might be done, already.

 

The odds of attaining any successes, in this arbitration process between the two [countries], are very slim. The international community recommended a dialogue between Somaliland and the TFG, where the two administrations, representing the two countries [somalia and Somaliland], to reach a mutual agreement in their political relations. The erratic personality and the political volatility of Sheikh Sharif ascended, again, when Mr Faroole, the president of Puntland, which is a regional state of Somalia, has, already, was allowed to interfere the process and publicly instructed, if not bullied, Sheikh Sharif and the TFG that his regional administration must be involved in any arbitration process between the TFG and Somaliland. Sheikh Sharif’s TFG has given in to Mr Faroole’s avowals and announced further number of ministerial committee [to the 5 he has announced in response to president Ahmed Silanyo’s decision] to engage in the arbitration process, which would be a partial representation of what is, now, known as Somalia. Somalia is to be represented by members of the TFG and Puntland officials, who, almost half of them, are in fact Somaliland origins. This one familial representational of the selected TFG committee to engage formal talks of, possibly, a recognisable parting of Somalia and Somaliland is, simply, unlawful and, most certainly, not a way forward for Somalia, which is mired with miscellaneous, conflicting, and confrontational politics. Sheikh Sharif’s misconception of Somaliland’s political sophistication led him to select his Internal Affairs minister to lead the [somalia] committee. An act that is not just an insult to the intelligence of Somalilanders, as a whole, but, also, an act that indicates his lack of interest in promoting better understanding between the two countries [somaliland and Somalia], and, thus, a fact that he lies, through his teeth, to the international community, whom he, constantly, pledges for his full cooperation to bring stability in the region.

 

Somaliland, an exemplary of democratic state in the developing world, will not disregard the rights of the millions of Somalis, who, rightfully, call Somalia their country of origin. Somaliland has made a hasty decision, and compromised its own sovereignty and rights for a union that has long failed and brought nothing but burden for both countries, it will not make such risk, again. And, most certainly, Somaliland will not allow the future of Somalia’s relationship with Somaliland to be negotiated by those who, unlawfully, represent the country.

 

I am glad to conclude my argument, here, that both the government of Somaliland and the public agreed that the arbitration process between Somaliland and Somalia is to be withdrawn, after Sheikh Sharif’s ill-advised scheme is exposed.

 

Brief biography of the author of this article: Salma A Sheikh is a BSc with Honours of International Politics and Sociology holder from the City University of London. A political analyst and advocate for African women and youth in politics. Salma, currently, lives in London and works as a Youth Mentor. She is an active campaigner for Somaliland’s reinstatement of its June, 1960’s sovereignty.

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Muqdisho oo laga soo dhaweeyay Go’aanka Somaliland ku Qadacday Wadahadalada, Mahiga oo Lad-qabo la shir yimi iyo Siilaanyo oo la filayo inuu Gaashaanka u daruuro

 

Xamar waxay Leedahay Mahiiga waa Saaxiibka Faroole isagaana Somaliland doonaya inuu Boqnaha gooyo

Hargeysa(Waaheen) Dadweynaha iyo Baarlamaanka Somaliya eek u sugan magaaladda Muqdisho ayaa si weyn u soo dhaweeyay Go’aankii ay xukuumadda Somaliland ku qaadacday Wadahadalada Somaliya ee Sh Shariif ku burburiyay labadii xubnood ee Faroole dartii ugu soo daray wadahadalada Somaliya inay ka qayb qaataan iyagoo Puntlan ku matalay Beelaha Somaliland.

Soo dhaweynta dadweynaha Muqdisho ee go’aanka Somaliland ayay ku sababaynayaan in uu Aabo u yahay dhibaatada keentay Khilaafka Agotine Mahiga Wakiilka Somaliya ee Xoghayaha Guud ee Qaramada midoobay, kaasoo ay ku Eedaynayaan in uu Saaxiib dhaw la yahay Madaxweyne Faroolaha Puntland, kaasoo doonaya inuu Somaliya ka noqdo Madaxweyne.

Fariimo kala duwan oo Waaheen ka soo gaadhayay dadweyne iyo Siyaasiyiin kala duwan oo Muqdisho ku sugan oo khadka Telefoonka kula soo xidhiidhay ayaa ugu baaqay inay iska ilaaliyaan dabinada Siyaasadeed ee ay u soo maleegeen Sh Shariif iyo Faroole, kuwaasoo ay sheegeen in ay u soo dhiibeen Mahiga huwan Shaadhka Qaramada Midoobay.

Dhinaca kalena Mahiga oo shalay ka soo degay madaarka Hargeysa ayaa xalay casho la yeeshay Madaxweynaha Somaliland, inkasta oo aanu wax war ahi ka soo bixin kulankooda, hadana Xogaha laga helayo waxa ay sheegayaan in uu Madaxweyne Siilaanyo qaadaco Qorshaha Lad-qabada ah ee uu la socdo ilaa Sh Shariif ku soo noqdo Tubtii wadahadalada loogu talogalay ee ahayd inay u wadahadlaan Somaliya iyo Somaliland.

Mahiga isla shalay markii uu Hargeysa soo gaadhayba waxa uu Warfidiyeenada Somaliland u sheegay in Booqashadiisu la xidhiidho sii xoojinta Geedi socodka Wadahadalada Somaliya isagoo ku mar-marsooday inuu Socdaalkiisu la xidhiidho hawlo xafiiska Hargeysa u yaala, hase yeeshee Socdaalkiisu waxa uu muujinaya Falaadha aanay filanayn ee ay Gantay Somaliland inay Shucaacd ku furtay Shaxda Siyaasadeed ee ay wadaagaan isaga, Faroole iyo Sh Shariif oo uu Gabalkiisu sii dhacayo.

Qorshayaasha kale ee u qarsoon ee uu Mahiga Faraqa ku sito ee naga soo gaadhay magaaladda Muqdisho ayaa sheegaya in Nool-yayo Koox Salaadiin ah oo la sheegay in Hargeysa laga kaxaynayo oo Muqdisho loo gaynayo sidii ay u xuli lahaayeen xubno Buuxiya Baarlamaanka Somaliya oo khatar ku ah Ajandayaasha ay wataan Mahiga iyo Kooxdiisu, kuwaasoo ay doonayaan inay si dhakhso ah u kala diraan.

Ilaa hada ma cada Salaadiinta Somaliland ee doonaya inay tagaan Xamar si ay u fuliyaan qorshayaasha Mahiga iyo Faroole, hase yeeshee sida ay wararku nagu soo gaadhayaan Suldaan Siciid C/salaam oo ka mid ah Madax dhaqameedka ugu facaweyn Gobolka Sanaag ayaa ku sugan Garoowe, waxaana la filayaa in uu u sii qaado dhinaca Muqdisho Dastuurka Faroole ee la Ansixiyay oo fure u noqon doona in Faroole iyo Sh Shariif ku shuraakoobaan sidii ay ugaga bixi lahaayeen Duufaanada Siyaasadeed ee ku Xeeran damacooda ah in ay somaliya markale taladeeda gacanta ku sii hayaan.

Suldaanka Siciid ayaa intii aanu Garoowe u kicitimin Hargeysa ku sugnaa isagoo ka qayb qaatay wadahadaladii magaaladda Jigjiga ku dhex maray Maamulka Kililka Shanaad iyo Madax dhaqameedka Dadweynaha Gaashaamo oo uu dagaal dhex maray Liyuu Booliiska. Waxaana la sheegayaa in wakhtigaa uu hawshaas ku jiray bar-bar waday ajanadayaasha Somaliweynimada isla markaan ay Salaadiin Beesha ***** ka soo jeedana isla sii qaateen sidii ay u wada tagi lahaayeen Muqdisho.

Ilaa hadana si rasmi ah looma Oga Salaadiinta la sheegayo inay u baxayaan Mashrrucaasi hase yeeshee waxa laga shaki qabaa Salaadiin Xidhiidh dhaw la leh Mawqifkaasi inay dhawaan Xamatra gaadhaan.

Si kasta ha ahaatee Madaxweyne Siilaanyo iyo Xukuumaddiisa waxa looga fadhiyaa inay siyaasad Hufan oo Maskax furan kaga baxaan khataraha Siyaasadeed ee ku dhex Dahsoon wadahadalada Beesha Caalamku u furtay Somaliya oo ilaa hada u muuqda kuwo Wajiyo badan oo aan la saadaalin Karin halka ay ku Af-meermi doonaan.

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“Hadii Mar Walba Lagu Baac-Sado Oo Aad Tidhaahdo La Hadli Maayo Somalia Taasi Waa Diciifnimo, Bulshaduna Xaqbay U Leedahay In Wixii Xukuumadu Xumayso Ay Sheegaan Oo Ay Ku Dhaliilaan”

 

Abwaan Maxamed Ibraahim Warsame-Hadraawi

 

Hargeysa, April 25, 2012 (Haatuf) – Abwaan Maxamed Ibraahim Warsame (Hadraawi) ayaa markii ugu horaysay ka hadlay Wada-hadalka xukuumadda Somaliland qaadacday ee la filayey inay la yeelato dawladda TFG-da ee Soomaaliya, kaas oo tilmaamay inay lagama maarmaan tahay inay wada-hadal dhexmaro labada dawladood.

 

Abwaan Hadraawi ayaa waxa uu sidaas ku sheegay waraysi khaas ah oo Haatuf xalay khadka tilifoonka ku siiyey isaga oo ku sugan Magaaladda Hargeysa, kaas oo si mugleh uga hadlay qaabka ugu haboon ee Somaliland iyo Somaliland u wada-hadli karaan, isla markaana tilmaamay inaanay haboonayn in wada-hadalka labada dhinac lagu soo daro Maamulka Puntland, maadaama oo ay hoostagto dawladda TFG-da ee uu hogaamiyaha ka yahay Sh. Shariif.

 

Abwaan Maxamed Ibraahim Warsame (Hadraawi) waxa uu sidoo kale tibaaxay in bulshadu xaq u leedahay inay dhaliilaha xukuumadda ay sheegaan, shacbiga u soo jeediyey inay dhaliilaha xukuumadda ay u jeediyaan ay noqdaan kuwo ay toosinayaan maamulka jira, waxa kale oo uu ka hadlay tabashada ururada siyaasada ee iyagu hadhay, kaas oo tilmaamay inay xaq u leeyihiin in laga qanciyo tabashooyinkooda, waxaanu ka digay in khilaafaad khalkhal ku keena dalka ay ku kacaan ururadaasi. Ugu horayna Abwaan Hadraawi isaga oo ka hadlaya sida uu u arko wada-hadalka Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya, waxa uu yidhi “Waan taageersanahay inay wada hadlaan Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya, waxaanan waliba jeclaa inaanay cid saddexaad soo dhexgalin oo aanay odhanin wada hadla, waana wax loo baahan yahay wakhtigan inay labada dhinac wada hadlaan oo dhinac waliba mawqifkiisa sheegto, waana daciifnimo hadii aad tidhaahdo anigu cid la hadli maayo oo aad garan waydaba cida ay wax iskaga kiin jiraan. Mida kale Qofka waxaad doontaba isku qabo oo waxa fiican inaad wada hadashaan oo aad mawqifkaaga iyada oo la wada arkayo aad cadaysato, waa taas ta ay raganimada iyo dadnimaduba ku jirtaa, laakiin hadii mar walba lagu baacsado oo aad tidhaahdo la hadli maayo Soomaaliya taas dhaliil ayaa ku jirta”.

 

Abwaan Hadraawi mar uu ka hadlayey rabitaanka shacbiga Somaliland, waxa uu yidhi “Shacabka Somaliland ku nool isaga ayaa Ikhtiyaarka leh, mana jirto cid odhan karta xaq aad leedihiin cid kale uga tanaasula, laakiin sida aan sheegay Soomaalida mushaakil ayaa ku dhacay oo dhibaatooyin badan ayaa dhacay oo wali raadkoodii sii jiraa oo ma jirto Soomaali isku calool fayoobi, taasina waxay keenaysaa inay dadkani qaataan mawqifkaas gooni isku taaga. Markaa su’aashaadaas waxaanu ku daynayaa dadkani go’aanka Mustaqbalkooda iyagaa awal iyo aakhirkeedaba iska leh oo sidaan u sheegay cid ku dirqiyi karta arinkaas ka joogsada ma jirto, markaa Somaliland shacbigeedu iyaga ayaa aayahooda Ikhtiyaar u leh laakiin anigu waxaan jeclahay in wakhti walba ha dhacdo meeshay doontana ha ka dhacdee in la wada hadlo oo dhinac waliba muraadkooda sheegtaan”.

 

Abwaan Maxamed Ibraahim Warsame (Hadraawi) mar wax laga waydiiyey qaabka ay u wada hadlayaan Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya iyo in ay haboontahay in Maamulka Puntland lagu soo daro wada-hadalka labada dhinac, waxa ku jawaabay “Sida ay iila muuqato wada hadalku cida la rabo inuu dhexmaro waa Somaliland oo Waqooyi ah iyo Soomaaliya oo Koonfur ah, marka aynu xaqiiqda ka hadlayno-na Maamulka Puntland waxa uu ka mid yahay oo uu hoos tagaa dawladda TFG-da ee Soomaaliya, inta aynu ognahayna waa qaabkaas qaabka uu caalamku soo jeediyey inay u wada hadlaan labada dhinac”.

 

Hadraawi isaga oo hadalkiisa sii wata, isla markaana ka hadlaya sida uu u arko dhaliilaha xukuumadda Madaxwayne Siilaanyo loo soo jeediyey mudadii ay jirtay, waxa uu yidhi “Mudada ay dawladdani jirtaa waa mudadaas kooban ee aynu wada ognahay, mida kale kolay waxa is barbar yaala dhaliil iyo amaan, labaduna waa kuwo dawlad walba ku dhaca oo dadka qaar waxay odhanayaan waxaas ayey xumaysay, halka kuwo kalena ka odhanayaan waxaas ayey toosisay. Bulshadu xaqbay u leedahay in wixii xukuumadu xumayso ay sheegaan oo ay ku dhaliilaan, laakiin waa in dhaliilahaasi noqdaan kuwo aan ku koobnaan maagis ee ay noqdaan dhaliilo wax lagu toosinayo oo wax lagu saxayo, markaa waa mihiin in wixii la khaldana la sheego wixii la saxana lagu hambalyeeyo cidii saxday”.

 

Ugu danbayn Hadraawi oo ka hadlay tabashada ururada hadhay, waxa uu yidhi “Inkasta oo arimaha ururada ee aad i waydiisay aanan la socon oo aanan waxba kala soconin oo aan ogayba qorshaha xataa lagu talo galay ee ururadii tartamayey ay ku hawlgaleen, inkasta oo aanay jirin cid odhanaysa balaayo ha dhacdo laakiin aniga mawqifkayga arintaas aad i waydiisay ku aadani waa in cidii wax tabaysa la qanciy oo wixii cabasho ah ee jirta in la islo eegaa waa marin sax ah, oo waa in muwaadin kasta oo wax tabanay arintiisa hoos loo eego, laakiin anigu in dhibi ay dhaco oo arintaasi dab inagu huriso oo dadkan Ilaahay uun ogyahay arinkooda in la isku dulqabsado marna ma jecli”.

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It is not bad at all: yesterday Somaliland was adamant it wont talk to Somalia while today the debate is revolving around the details of the talks.

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xiinfaniin;822869 wrote:

It is not bad at all: yesterday Somaliland was adamant it wont talk to Somalia while today the debate is revolving around the details of the talks.

true that. And good that TFG realized it needs Somaliland, cause continue business as usual without SL, waxba wee ka socon weydey 20 sano.

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^^yeah what ever rocks your boat saaxiib.

 

I don't really care who needs who, all I care is that is Somalia is one, iyo in dadka xanaaqsan la sasabo oo lasoo caro celiyo

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They'll argue over the people taking place in the talks. They'll fall out over the venue for the talks. They'll fight over the agenda of the talks and they'll probably even argue over the seating arrangements. But when they finally do sit down (with the help of the international mediators), SL will demand independence and Somalia will insist upon unity. The mediators will attempt a compromise and use the 'right of self determination' as the eternal get out of jail card. A government of national unity will be suggested with a refurrendum for independence taking place in SL in the recent future (SL will argue that it already had one, Somalia will argue that it does not count). Finally, after all the buuq and baaq, SL will get its independence. Wax fahma.

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^^Independence is not in the cards.

 

The implosion has already started. And with Khatumo in the cards now, even referendum may not be a good option for the Northern Mothers.

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Ngonge, thats possible scenario. However looking from the current perspective in Somalia, it would be beneficial to have Somaliland on board in what ever status or agreement to buy time, to make end on a federal Somalia. And from Somaliland's perspective it has waited 20 years, it can wait another 2 years if its gets something in return.

 

The question is will Sheick Shariif manouvre right and put down an attractive offer on the table and secure backing from the international community?