Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 Turkish foreign minister meets presidents of Somali and Somaliland. ANKARA Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu met with Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and President of the autonomous region of Somaliland Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo in the second round of talks mediated by Turkey in capital Ankara. Davutoglu gathered with Somali President Mohamud before the two joined Somaliland President Silanyo in a trilateral meeting, which was held behind closed doors. Turkish diplomatic sources close to the meeting have said talks -- the first at the presidential level -- were aimed at devising dialogue channels and keeping them open to work out problems between Somalia and the autonomous region of Somaliland. The two presidents were also scheduled to meet with their Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul as well as with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Somaliland, a former British colony, declared in 1991 independence from the Federal Republic of Somalia proclaiming the Somaliland Republic, which has been internationally unrecognised since then. The autonomous region seeks recognition as a separate country, a demand rejected by Somalia which wants the northern region to be a part of a single Somali state. Writing by Mert Bezgin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted April 13, 2013 Did I read piracy and terrorism corporation.I thought that was done previously..someone needs to wake up the elephant in the room and sort out this slumber party between these grinning presidents Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 Dadweynaha Hargeysa siday u Arkeen wada hadalada Somaliland & Soomaaliya uga furmay Ankara? April 13th, 2013 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Dadweynaha ku dhaqan caasimadda Somaliland ee Hargeysa ayaa labadii maalmood ee u dambeeyay si weyn ugu dheg taagayay natiijada ka soo bixi doonta wada hadalada maanta magaalada Ankara ee dalka Turkiga uga furmay madaxweyneyaasha Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya. Shacbigu waxay goobaha bar-kulanka ku lafo-gurayeen waxyaabaha ka soo bixi kara shirkan Turkigu gogoshiisa dhigay ee ay isku soo horfadhiisteen Madaxweynaha Somaliland Mudane Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) iyo dhigiisa Soomaaliya Xasan Sh. Maxamuud. Dadweynuhu waxay shalay iyo maantaba si joogto ah dhegaha u hayeen idaacadaha iyo telefishanada, iyadoo qof kastaaba danaynayay inuu noqda dadka ugu hor maqla midhaha kulankan. “Waanu ku kalsoon nahay Madaxweynahayaga aanu dooranay iyo gudida heerka qaran ah ee loo xulay shirkan, waxaan qabaa in Madaxweynaha iyo shacbigaba uu wada hadalkani u yahay guul maadaama oo qadiyada Somaliland la gole geeyay fagaare kale oo caalamku indhaha ku hayo,”ayay tidhi Aniisa Yuusuf oo ka mid ah dadweynaha caasimadda oo goob dukaan ku haysata suuqa faras magaalaha Hargeysa oo dooda shirkan la wadaagaysay dadweyne ku odorasayay meheradeeda meel aan sidaasi uga sii fogayn. Ibraahim Axmed Yuusuf oo ii sheegay inuu madaxa la galay da’da lixdameeyada ayaa ku dooday in weftiga Madaxweynuhu haystaan garnaq caalamku u soo joogsan karo oo ay la fadhiistaan miiska wada hadalka, taasi oo ay ka mid tahay in caalamku aanu ku talinaynin la soo nooleeyo dal dhintay 22 sanadood ka hor. Waxa oday Ibraahim Axmed uu doodiisa sabab uga dhigayay in xasuuqii loo geystay shacbiga Somaliland iyo sharci la’aanta ku baahday Soomaaliya ay bohol dheer ku sii riday rajadii laga qabay wixii la isku odhan jiray Soomaaliya. “Madaxweyne Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo waa hayin ruug-cadaa ah oo ka dubaalad dheer xaga dublamaasiyada Xasan Sh. Maxamuud-ka Soomaaliya oo ah nin wejigiisu ku cusub yahay masraxa siyaasadda. “Waxaan qabaa dood iyo gar-ba in weftiga Somaliland aan si laga guulaysan Karin isla markaana ay yihiin wefti u qalma inay difaacaan oo iib geeyaan qaranimadda Somaliland,”ayuu yidhi Sidiiq Cigge oo ah nin dhalinyaro ah oo ka mid ah da’yartii ku kacaantay 22-kii sanadood ee Somaliland qaranimadeeda ay kala soo noqotay Soomaaliya. Sidiiq yare waxa uu intaasi ku ladhay “Soomaaliya laabta ha ka jarto Somaliland way ka tashatay booraantii abeesadu ku qaniintay.” Waxa dadweynuhu ay qabeen in marka la isku miisaamo labada wefti ka Somaliland ka muuqato heer qaranimo, maadaama oo ay xubno ka yihiin Xukuumaddii, Axsaabtii siyaasada, Goleyaashii sharci dejinta ee wakiilada ka ahaa bulshada. Halka Soomaaliyana aanay lahayn-ba axsaab siyaasadeed iyo Baarlamaan iyo madaxweyne dadweynuhu soo doorteen midnaba. Waxa dadka intooda badani ay aaminsanaayeen in wada hadaladu ay burburi karaan haddii weftiga Somaliland gogosha wada hadalka soo dhigaan riyada laabta ugu jirta ee dib u soo celinta midowgii Soomaaliya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 Madaxweynayaasha Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland oo Heshiis Iskaashi ku kala saxiixday Magaalada Ankara ee Dalka Turkiga Sabti, Abriil 13, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo madaxweynaha Somaliland, Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) ayaa heshiis iskaashi ku kala saxiixday magaalada Ankara ee xarunta dalka Turkiga, kaddib wadahadallo saacado qaatay oo ay maanta ku yeesheen halkaas. Heshiiskan oo ka kooban toddoba qodob ayaa waxaa ka mid ah in Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay wadaagaan deeqaha dibadda laga helo iyo inay kawada shaqeeyaan ammaanka labada deegaan ee ay ka kala taliyaan. Qodobbada lagu heshiiyay ayaa waxay kala ahaayeen: In lasii wado wadahadallada u dhexeeya labada dhinac In qodobbadii kasoo baxya shirarkii London iyo Dubai ee horay logu heshiiyay la dhowro In beesha calaamku ay ka taageerto dhinaca farsamada wadhadallada sii soconaya ee u dhexeeya Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland In si wadajir ay dhinacyadu ay uga shaqeeyaan sugidda ammaanka iyo tababarrada In labada dhinac ay wadaagaan deeqaha caalamka laga helo, gaar ahaan kuwa ay Soomaaliya hesho In saddex bilood gudahood lagu qabto dalka Turkiga shir kale oo lagu dhameystirayo qodobbadii intii uu shirkan socday la isku af-garan waayay In labada dhinac ay joojiyaan hadallada xanafta leh ee wax u dhimi kara qodobbadan lagu heshiiyay iyo sii socoshada wadahadallada Heshiiskan oo lagu saxiixay madaxtooyada dalka Turkiga ayaa waxaa dhinaca dowladda Soomaaliya u saxiisay wasiirka arrimaha gudaha iyo amniga Qaranka, C/kariin Xuseen Guuleed, iyadoo dhinac Somaliland uu u saxiixay wasiirka arrimaha dibadda, Maxamed Cabdullaahi Cumar. Intii uu shirku socday ayaa waxaa labada dhinac ay isku mari waayeen dhowr qodob, kuwaasoo aan la shaacin, waxaase warar hoos ay sheegayaan in qodobbadaas ay ka mid ahaayeen midnimada Soomaaliya oo ay Somaliland kasoo horjeesatay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 Agreed to continue the talks between Somalia and Somaliland Agreed to have security cooperation between the 2 sides Agreed to honer the previous agreements signed by the former goverment of Somalia and SL govt. Agreed to have another meeting in 90 days in Turkey istanbul Agreed that the international community should continue to facilitate the talks between the 2 sides Agreed to share the external aid between Somalia and Somaliland Agreed to avoid inflammatory language between the sides Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted April 13, 2013 Seems like waste of time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 Its a process Che this was the first ever official meeting between Somalias permanent goverment and Somalilands government, ofcourse they wouldn't agree on the first meeting. But its going some where as long as there is a will to continue these talks i am optimistic they will agree in the near future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted April 13, 2013 Unless my Somali is failing there is no progress as predicted.Both sides just signed same stuff as before and a photo-op..I can't see how they will be able to reAch a deal in a three months.One thing though Somalia is slowly signing stuff that can be used against them if they support groups that are Against SOmalilNd.These meetings is slowly giving Somaliland legitimacy and equal footing short of recognition.Somaliland basically didn't get what they wanted so is Somalia..who is the looser here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted April 13, 2013 "One thing though Somalia is slowly signing stuff that can be used against them if they support groups that are Against SOmalilNd" Somali Government has no control over 'groups' against Somaliland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 13, 2013 STOIC its a process it also shows the international community that Somaliland is willing to hold talks with Somalia, and that its very flexible to clarify the future relations between the 2 sides. The top Turkish leaders president gul and erdogen were present at the press conference the 2 president held after the conference. If Somalia gets millions of dollars in aid , than Somaliland get its bilateral aid equally shared since Somaliland doesn't get much aid from the world only from Denmark and Britain.The Koonfurian brothers just need some time to let it sink the idea of Somaliland particularly their leaders. Since 5 decades ago the agreement between SL and Somalia was quickly signed this time it takes a little bit more time to agree on a final settlement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted April 13, 2013 Che, yeah but my understanding is Somali government represent all Somalis except Somaliland or else they will not be signing stuff like two different countries.As fair as one can be they may not have control but the line has been drawn it is Somalis against Somaliland..if I wAs Hassan I will be careful signing stuff.No one won in this talks but they can come bite you back if your put your name next to a paper Sorry typing from a phone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted April 13, 2013 Somalia maintains to represent all Somalis including the North, It hasn't signed or agreed to anything that says otherwise! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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