The Somalia-Somaliland talks Thread

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No because Somaliland is built on compromises and healthy cooperation between its leaders the opposition of yesterday was Kulmiye and they had a say about the future of Somaliland. The same way wadani and ucid are opposition to the goverment but when national affairs as these come up they are one nation one people thats the beauty of Somaliland.

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^^But essentially, aside the catchphrases intended for outside consumption, Somaliland is a political framework for the three Mothers

 

We know Xaglo, Baashe, and the rest of others folks are accessories

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/somali/audio_console.shtml?programme=som1400

 

The BBC program of "Maxay Kula Tahay" or the former "Falanqeynta Jimcaha" was quite interesting. It seems people's attitudes are changing in Somalia towards accepting the sovereignty of Somaliland. It is quite welcome that our neighbours are thawing from their unsustainable position of Somali Unity at all costs.

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Wararkii U Dambeeyay Ee Wada Hadalka Turkiga Ka Socda, Qodobada Ay Somaliland Soo Bandhigtay Iyo Kuwa Ay Somaliya Madasha Keentay.

 

Hargeysa(Ramaas) Apr.13, 2013 - Wada hadaladii Somaliland iyo Somaliya oo khamiistii ka furmay magaalada Istanbul ee wadanka Turkiga, ayaa la filayaa in maanta lagu soo gunaanado magaalada Ankara ee isla wadankaas.

 

Madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo, ayaa xalay fiidkii gaadhay magaalada Ankara, waxaanay kulan yeelan doonaan Madaxweynaha Somaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud. Labada Madaxweyne, waxa la filayaa inay wada saxeexaan war-murtiyeed ka soo bixi doona kulamadii khamiistii iyo Jimcihii dhex maray ergooyin ka kala socday labada dawladood oo ka sii horeeyay labada Madaxweyne.

 

Wasaaradda arrimaha dibadda Turkiga, ayaa warsaxaafadeed kooban oo ay xalay soo saartay, waxay ku sheegtay inay labada Madaxweyne ee Somaliland iyo Somaliya ay yeelan doonaan kulan lagu xalinayo khilaafaadka ka dhex jira Somaliland iyo Somaliya. Waxa kale oo ay wasaaradu sheegtay inay labada madaxweyne kulamo la yeelan doonaan Madaxweynaha Turkiga Cabdalle Guul, Raysalwasaaraha Turkiga Tayyip Erdogon iyo masuuliyiin kale, waxaanay wasaaradu intaas raacisay in Turkigu sii wadi doono taageeradiisa sidii ay Somaliland iyo Somaliya khilaafkooda ugu xalin lahaayeen wada hadal. Labada Madaxweyne ee Somaliland iyo Somaliya ayaa la filayaa inay saaka wada jir ula quraacdaan Madaxweynaha Turkiga.

 

Waxa jira qodobo ay ergada labada dhinac ka kala socotay isku mari weyday oo u muuqda inay caqabad ku noqon karaan wada hadalada Turkiga. Tusaale ahaan, dawladda Somaliya ayaa soo bandhigtay dhawr qodob oo ay ka mid yihiin, in siyaasiyiinta Somaliland loo ogolaado inay u safraan Muqdisho, in shirarka lagu qabanayo gudaha Somaliya sida Garoowe ama Kismaayo lagu qabto Hargeysa oo ay Somaliland-na ogolaato iyo in Somaliland ka qayb gasho shirka London, halka ay Somaliland la gole tagtay in Somaliland loo madaxbanaaneeyo mashaariicdeeda iyo khayraadkeeda, in mucaawinooyinka loo qaybsado si’ siman iyo in loo wada hadlo laba dhinac, qodobkan oo la sheegay inay Somaliland ku doonayso inay ka ansixiso dawladan, maadaama oo dawladii Sheekh Shariif ee hore u ogolaatay ay ahayd mid ku meelgaadh ah.

 

Sida ay wararku sheegayaan dhinac waliba wuxuu diiday qodobada uu dhinaca kale soo jeediyay. Waxaana ilaa xalay saqdii dhexe lagu jiray isu soo dhawaynta labada wefti ee ka kala socda Somaliland iyo Somaliya. Hase yeeshe maadaama ay labada madaxweyne saaka wada jir ula quraacanayaan Madaxweynaha Turkiga, waxa muhiim ah in la soo saaro maanta war-murtiyeed la wada saxeexo qodobada uu doonaa ha ku jiraane.

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Turkish FM meets holds talks with Somalia, Somaliland presidents

 

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu shakes hands with Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud before holding a meeting on April 13, 2013. (Photo: Cihan, Yasin Kılıç)

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Somaliland FM calls for more cooperation with Somalia ahead of tripartite Ankara talks

13 April 2013 /TODAYSZAMAN.COM, İSTANBUL

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu met with leaders of Somalia and Somalia's autonomous Somaliland region on Saturday in the Turkish capital for talks to mitigate problems the two sides are facing.

Davutoğlu came together with Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud and Somaliland President Ahmed Silanyo at the Ankara Palas. Mahmoud and Silanyo were also expected to have talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Turkish President Abdullah Gül after meeting with Davutoğlu.

 

Somaliland unilaterally declared its independence as a de facto sovereign state in 1991 after a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation's long-standing military government. The area is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia.

 

During his first diplomatic visit to Turkey in late December after taking office, Mohamud expressed his gratitude to the Turkish government and the nation for their support and aid and for instilling hope in Somalis. Mohamud, Somalia's president since last September, was invited to Turkey by his counterpart, President Abdullah Gül.

 

Silanyo also visited Turkey in mid-March to have talks with Turkish officials, including Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase aid efforts to Somaliland. During his visit, Silanyo was also scheduled to meet with Erdoğan; however, the meeting had to be canceled due to Erdoğan's poor health.

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Somaliland: midnimo diyaar uma nihin

 

13 Abriil, 2013, 11:26 GMT 14:26 SGA

 

Shirka Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay ku leeyihiin Ankara.

Wasiirka arrimaha dibada ee Somaliland Maxamed Cabdulaahi Cumar ayaa BBC u sheegay in Somaliland aysan diyaar u hayn inay ka hadasho midnimo, shir ay Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ku leeyihiin Ankara.

Somaliland iyo Somaaliya ayaa kawada hadlaaya sidii labada dhinac ay u gaari lahaayeen xal siyaasadeed.

Dowladda Turkiga ayaa ku martiqaaday labada wafi kulankan. Dowlada Soomaaliya waxa ay sheegtay in la gaaray waqtigii laga hadlayay midnimada Soomaaliya. Waxaa kaloo laga halayaa burcad baddeeda, iyo ammaanka.

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Wadahadalka u dhexeeya Madaxweynayaasha Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland oo ka socda Magaalada Ankara ee Dalka Turkiga

 

Sabti, Abriil 13, 2013 (HOL) — Kulan ay dhexdhexaadiye ka tahay dowladda Turkiga oo u dhexeeya madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Max’uud iyo madaxweynaha Somailland, Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo ayaa ka furmay magaalada Ankara ee xarunta dalka Turkiga.

 

Shirkan oo ka socda xafiiska wasiirka arrimaha dibadda ee Turkiga, Ahmed Davutogle, waxanaa madaxweyne ay oo ay hareerahooda fadhiyeen xubno ka tirsan xukuumadahooda ay muujiyeen niyad wanaag iyo inay guul ka gaari karaan wadahadallada.

 

Wadahadlaladan ayaa waxaa lagu wadaa inay labada dhinac kusii amba-qaadaan kulammadii horay u billowday, inkastoo ay labada dhinac mowqifyo kala fog kala taagan yihiin, gaar ahaan gooshashada Somaliland ay horay ugu dhawaaqday.

 

Madaxweynayaasha ayaa waxaa lagu wadaa inay marka ay kulankooda soo gabgabeeyaan ay siyaabo kala duwan ula kulmaan madaxda dalka Turkiga sida madaxweynaha iyo ra’iisul waasaraha dalkaas.

 

Dowladda Turkiga ayaa sheegay inay ka go’an tahay inay meesha ka saarto kala fikir duwanaashaha u dhexeysa madaxda Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland, iyadoo tani ay qayb ka tahay dadaallo ay caalamka oo dhan ku doonayaan in la soo celiyo midnimadii Soomaaliya.

 

Sidoo kale, kulanka waxaa goobjoog ka ah guddoomiyeyaasha murcaaradka xisbiyada Somaliland, iyadoo la sheegayo in labada dhinac ay aad isugu soo dhawaadeeen, laguna wado in galabta lagas oo saaro qodobbo muhiim ah oo ay labada dhianc isku af-garteen.

 

Kulankan ayaa wuxuu gabo-gabo u yahay kulammo ay labadii maalmood ee lasoo dhaafay lahaayeen wasiirro iyo xubno ka socday dowladda Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland, kuwaasoo laga soo saaray qodobbo ay labada madaxweyne kawada hadlayaan maanta.

 

Wixii warar ah ee kusoo kordha waxaad kula socon doontaa wararkeenna dambe haddii ALLE ogolaado.

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Somalia, Somaliland Presidents in Turkey for Proximity Talks

 

Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:49

President Silanyo © is received by Turkish officials upon arrival in Ankara for the talksBy: Yusuf M Hasan

Somalilandsun - The presidents of Somalia and Somaliland are in Turkey at the invitation of Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu for talks to mitigate problems the two sides are facing.

The two presidents are currently in the resumed talks between the two countries being moderated by Turkish officials led by the foreign minister Davutoglu while it is anticipated that President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

A statement the Turkish Foreign Ministry released on Friday said Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud and Somaliland President Ahmed Silanyo will meet in Ankara on Saturday.

The statement noted that Turkey will continue to lend its support to finding a peaceful solution to the problems between Somalia and Somaliland through dialogue.

During a meeting by the two countries talk's preparatory committee the Somaliland delegation headed by foreign minister presented its position paper that will be basis for the agenda.

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Presidents of Somalia, breakaway Somaliland hold talks in Turkey

 

ANKARA, Turkey - Turkey has hosted direct talks between the presidents of Somalia and the breakaway Somaliland region to encourage dialogue between the two.

 

No statement was released after Saturday's meeting between Somalia's Hassan Sheik Mohamud and Ahmed Silanyo of Somaliland.

 

Somalia wants Somaliland to be part a united country. But the territory, which declared independence from Somalia in 1991 and has been a haven of relative peace amid the chaos and bloodshed in the country's south, is seeking international recognition. The international community is urging the sides to find a negotiated solution.

 

Silanyo's office has said the talks would focus on co-operation, including the fight against terrorism and piracy.

 

Turkey, which hosted the meeting, has been providing emergency relief and development aid to Somalia and enjoys close ties to both sides.

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Turkish FM meets holds talks with Somalia, Somaliland presidents - CİHAN http://en.cihan.com.tr/video/Turkish-FM-meets-holds-talks-with-Somalia-Somaliland-presidents-CHMTAwNzAyOS8wLzIvNA==

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Somaliland FM calls for more cooperation with Somalia ahead of tripartite Ankara talks Featured

 

Somalia’s autonomous Somaliland region Foreign Minister Dr. Mohamed Omar has voiced optimism ahead of proximity talks between Somaliland and Somalia that is set to be hosted by Turkey on Saturday, calling for increased cooperation on the issues of security and the fight against terrorism between the two governments.

 

“First of all, I hope the two sides will express their commitment to the continuation of the talks,” Omar voiced his expectation from the talks during an exclusive interview with Today’s Zaman on Friday, as he underlined the significance of meeting with the newly elected government of Somalia formally for the first time since September’s elections.

 

Somaliland unilaterally declared its independence as a de facto sovereign state in 1991 after a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation's long-standing military government. The area is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia.

 

Omar also said the two governments were expected to take some further steps towards resolving some of the conflicts and issues that have been the main difference between the two sides.

 

“I hope that the two sides [somaliland and Somalia governments] will not stand on the way of each one’s development plans and security and the two governments will cooperate more actively on the issues of mutual interest. I also expect the two sides to decide on tangible and practical cooperation on the ground which will allow both sides to fight much more effectively against terrorism and people who are going to harm regional security,” added Omar as he said solving security problem could be one way to come out of the disagreements between the two sides.

 

A statement the Turkish Foreign Ministry released on Friday said Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud and Somaliland President Ahmed Silanyo were due to visit Turkey on Saturday. The statement added that Turkey will continue to lend its support to finding a peaceful solution to the problems between Somalia and Somaliland through dialogue.

 

Turkey might be best place to bring leaders of Somaliland and Somalia closer'

 

The Somaliland foreign minister said he was hopeful about Turkey’s part in the talks, adding that the Turkish government could play a crucial in improving relations between Somaliland and Somalia due to Turkey’s historical link with the people of Somaliland.

 

“I think that it will also be very helpful due to the fact that Turkey is a very neutral country supporting both the people Somaliland and Somalia in their own development. Therefore, Turkey might be the best place in terms of bringing the two sides closer and helping the two sides to solve their differences,” added Omar.

 

Silanyo visited Turkey in mid-March to have talks with Turkish officials, including Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase aid efforts to Somaliland. During his visit, Silanyo was also scheduled to meet with Erdoğan; however, the meeting had to be canceled due to Erdoğan's poor health.

 

During the talks, Davutoğlu also pledged to continue his support for the reconciliation, stability, prosperity and development of Somalia, according to a diplomat who spoke to Today’s Zaman on the condition of anonymity. The Turkish foreign minister also emphasized Turkey's commitment to the integrity of Somalia, said the diplomat.

 

Commenting on the development between Turkish and Somaliland ties following Silanyo’s visit last month, he said the president’s visit brought along high ranking visits from Turkey to Somaliland since then. “One of top leaders of Turkish International Cooperation and Development Agency (TİKA) has recently paid a visit to Somaliland with huge assistance. There are also plans on the ground for a number of other development opportunities in Somaliland in cooperation with the Turkish government,” he added.

 

Turkish Foreign Ministry office to be opened in Somaliland

 

Omar also announced that the Turkish foreign ministry officials and officials from Somaliland were working on opening an office of Turkish Foreign Ministry in the autonomous region’s capital city Hargeisa. He added that he expected the office to be opened in the upcoming months.

 

“A key element [to improve bilateral relations] is to have a clear point of contact between Turkey and Somaliland,” said Omar underlining the importance of the Turkish office and added,” Once there is a Turkish office in Somaliland and a Somaliland’s office in Turkey, those two offices will help the coordination of the bilateral relations in the areas of economy, development and investment.

 

The Somaliland foreign minister also stated that a Turkish Airline from İstanbul to Hargeisa was expected to be launched once the Hargeisa airport is completed in June. He said Istanbul-Hargeisa flight has the potential to take relations to a different stage.

 

'Security of Somaliland allows Turkish investors to come and invest in'

 

“Somaliland has rich natural resources, including natural gas, petroleum and minerals as well. It is a key area where we are looking for Turkish investors. We also have huge potential in fishing industry and that is another area we are looking for Turkish investors,” noted Omar.

 

He added that currently Turkish companies were exploring petroleum in the areas, yet investors to fishing industry were also expected from Turkey. Omar added that Somaliland has huge fishing deposits in its seas which are underutilized. “I think that a key area where Turkish investors and Turkish technology can help us explore those resources and export them to international markets,” he added.

 

When asked about the situation of security in the area, Omar said Somaliland has been secure and stable for quite a long time. Noting that there are a high numbers of international companies in Somaliland now, Omar said the security of Somaliland allows for Turkish investors to come in and invest in.

 

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