The Somalia-Somaliland talks Thread

[NGONGE]

^^ It's not that it set me on edge or anything of the like. It is the lack of honest and direct opposition to this government. It's the fact that whenever I read any attacks on it they almost all have been empty words about "inanka yar that pretends to be a doctor" or Siilaanyo's hidden agendas, etc. There is nothing solid, there are no real charges and there is hardly anything that could be taken as fact by any reasonable person. Worse still, this is the argument of the sensible ones; the crazy ones talks about suitcases full of money going to Nairobi and what not.

 

I am sure, very certain and confident that there are lots of things that one could blame and question the government on alas none have or do.

[Carafaat]

Mintid,

 

I told you so sxb.

 

http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/61260-Somaliland-s-Ambassador-and-spokesman-to-the-World?highlight=somaliland+foreign+minister

[Carafaat]

Ngonge,

 

The opposition can only judge the FM on content if he appears before Parliament or answers questions from the media.

 

This happens for example when media ask questions:

 

http://www.warkanews.com/wasiirka-arimaha-dibada-oo-cay-cagajuglayn-iyo-riixitaan-kula-kacay-warbaahinta-mar-ay-isku-dayeen-inay-suaalo-weydiiyaan-madaxweynaha-somaliland/

 

And when Guurti wants the Minister to give accountability, he avoids them for months.

 

http://www.haatuf.net/2009files/913.html

[AfricaOwn]

NGONGE;929734 wrote:

^^ Igu dar warya.

 

 

 

That goes without saying, saaxib. But it all depends on how the pressure is applied and what arguments are put forth. The sweeping generalisations that we see from the SL opposition serve no purpose but division and mistrust. Of course, that is not to say there are genuine concerns and questions to be asked of the Kulmiye admin and their approach to Somali politics.

It's just politics- Saxib. Wax faham

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Mudane Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo wafdi uu hoggaaminayo ayaa goordhow u ambabaxay magaalada Dooxa ee Dalka Qadar Sheegayna in uu la kulmi doono M/waynaha Somaliland oo hada ku sugan Imaaraadaka Carabta

 

Dhinaca kale Madaxweynaha somaliya Xasan ayaa sheegay inuu soo mari doono dalka Imaaraadka Carabta....

 

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Mudane Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo wafdi uu hoggaaminayo ayaa goordhow u ambabaxay magaalada Dooxa ee Dalka Qadar Sheegayna in uu la kulmi doono M/waynaha Somaliland oo hada ku sugan Imaaraadaka Carabta

 

Mudaxweynaha ayaa waxaa safarkiisa ku wehliya mas’uuliyiin ka tirsan dowladda Soomaaliya, madaxweynaha oo mar la hadlaayay Radiyo Muqdisho ayaa sheegay madaxweynaha intii aanu dalka ka dhoofin in uu ka soo qeyb galayo shir ay yeelanayaan madaxda wadamada Jaamacada Carabta kaas oo ka dhacaya magaalada Dooxa ee dalka Qadar.

 

Sidoo kale madaxweynaha waxa uu sheegay in kulanka uu ka qeyb galayo uu ka soo jeedinayo khudbad uu uga hadlayo xaalada dalka Soomaaliya iyo hormarada ay gaadhay.

 

Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud ayaa sheegay in mudada uu ku sugan yahay dalka Qadar uu kulamo la qaadan doono madaxda dalkaasi si loo amba qaado heshiisyo ay horay u gaadheen mas’uuliyiinta dowladaha Soomaaliya iyo Qadar.

 

Dhinaca kale Madaxweynaha soamaliya Xasan ayaa sheegay inuu soo mari doono dalka Imaaraadka Carabta, halkaasi oo uu kulamo kula yeelan doono Madaxweynaha Somaliland Axmad maxamed maxamuud Siilaanyo, iyagoo ka wadahali doonaan labada dhinac kulamdii u socday ee la xidhiidhay Sidii la iskula meel dhigi lahaa Ismariwaaga Koonfurta iyo Waqooyiga waxana lafilayaa in ay dhex dhaxaadiyaan Dawlada Imaaraadka Carabta oo hadab uu joogo M/waynaha Somaliland AXMED MAXAMED SIIRANYO iyo Wafti balaadh oo uu hogaaminayay.

[malistar2012]

What happened xaaji if i recall silaanyo stated no talks

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Malistar i would not oppose talks with Culusow and Co, lets see how it goes.

[malistar2012]

I too welcome it . Silaanyo should get special. Tittle in London conference win win situation

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^ This is not about the London conference this about holding the first ever meeting with the Hassan culusow and his people. The london conference is not about Somaliland and Somalia so it means little. Its about Somalia not about Somaliland it doesnt concern Somaliland

[Carafaat]

There seems to be an window of opportunity here, Siilanyo and Culusoow better seize the moment and reach a deal or else they will see Kenya, Ethiopia and their foot soldiers oo u heshiiyay.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^^ Thats a bit of overexaggeration there is no Ethiopia Kenya threat

[Haatu]

Carafaat;930295 wrote:

There seems to be an window of opportunity here, Siilanyo and Culusoow better seize the moment and reach a deal or else they will see Kenya, Ethiopia and their foot soldiers oo u heshiiyay.

You guys have a golden opportunity to cement your position in the future Somalia due to Koonfurta's desperation to get you guys back. You can even demand presidency to rotate between North and South and they would accept it. Sometimes people need to swallow their pride and grab the prize with both hands.

[Carafaat]

Haatu, I agree. Leadership sometimes requires swallowing pride and showing (political) maturity. I am sure Somalilanders are capable of doing that, they have done so in the past. The question is if they can find a reliable partner in Somalia. The continuing discussion on the constitution and somalia's future structure raises question.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^ Haatu Somalilanders are not fighting to rule Somalia , Somalilanders are fighting for an official exit out in the eyes of the IC. Ruling Koonfurians is not attractive who wants to domesticate an ugly lady nagaadaa niyo dee. But a temporally relation ship with an exit out should be considered. The question is haatu why do koonfurians want Somalilanders back that i dont understand.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somalia: President flies to Qatar, ‘expected to meet’ Somaliland leader in Dubai

25 Mar 25, 2013 - 9:07:13 AM

 

MOGADISHU, Somalia Mar 25, 2013 (Garowe Online)- Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud flew from Mogadishu on Monday en route to Qatar, where he is expected to attend the Arab League summit, Garowe Online reports

 

President Hassan spoke on Radio Mogadishu prior to his departure, saying that he will attend for the first time as Somali President the annual Arab League summit, which takes place in the Qatari capital Doha this year.Under former President Mohamed Siyad Barre, Somalia joined the Arab League in 1974.

“I will attend the Arab League summit and I will present the situation in Somalia, the progress achieved and the country’s needs,” said President Hassan.

 

Addressing media speculation about the sacking of the intelligence chief, President Hassan said: “Yes, Ahmed Moallim Fiqi [former intelligence chief] has resigned along with this deputy and I have appointed an interim chief and the work will continue.”

 

Somaliland dialogue

 

Sources in Mogadishu and Hargeisa tell Garowe Online that President Hassan is expected to travel to Dubai after attending the Arab League summit in Doha. President Hassan is “expected to meet” with the leader of Somalia’s separatist region of Somaliland, Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo, who is currently in Dubai.

 

Earlier this month, President Silanyo rejected attending the London Conference for Somalia, scheduled for May 7 and co-hosted by the Somali and UK governments in London.

 

A dialogue process between the Somali federal government and Somaliland’s separatist administration have stalled since June 2012, in part after Puntland was excluded from the talks as a stakeholder. Puntland and Somaliland have fought sporadic territorial battles since 2002, costing lives and leading to the displacement of over 50,000 civilians from Las Anod, according to a U.N. report.

 

Since September 2012, Somaliland has reversed its policy and has engaged in direct talks with Puntland regarding security matters.

 

Earlier this month, Somaliland arrested and returned to Puntland a suspect involved in the killing of a well-known Islamic scholar in Puntland on Feb. 15, 2013. The suspect had escaped to Somaliland and the move is seen as growing security cooperation between the two authorities that have been political rivals for over a decade.

 

- See more at: http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Somalia_27/Somalia_president_flies_to_Qatar_expected_to_meet_Somaliland_leader_in_Dubai.shtml#sthash.XSNFYQaL.3F2avdFj.dpuf