The Somalia-Somaliland talks Thread

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

“Annagu shir Soomaaliya loo qabanayo tagi mayno waayo Somaliland ayaa nala yidhaahdaa”

March 18th, 2013

 

“Shirkii hore ee London umuurta dadka Soomaalida ah baa lagu xalilayay oo may ahayn midnimada Soomaaliya loogu yeedhay”

 

Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)-Xukuumadda Somaliland ayaa si rasmi ah u shaacisay inaanay ka qeyb galayn shirka Ingiriisku u qabanayo dawladda Soomaaliya ee lagu wado inuu London ka qabsoomo Bisha April ee fooda inagu soo haysa.

 

Wasiirka Madaxtooyadda Somaliland Mudane Xirsi Cali Xaaji Xasan ayaa sidaasi ka sheegay waraysi uu maanta siiyay laanta Afsoomaaliga ee BBC-da, waxaanu yidhi “Mawqifka Somaliland, wuu cad yahay waxa weeye Annagu shir Soomaaliya loo qabanayo tagi mayno annagu tagi mayno waayo annaga Somaliland ayaa nala yidhaahdaa. Haddii Somaliland Iyo Soomaaliya la wada hadal siinayo oo si siman loo wada hadal siinayo.

 

Waanu ka wada hadalaynaa oo darafkayaga ayaan u hadlaynaa Somaliland, madax-banaanidayada iyo dadkayaga iyo dalkayaga.”

 

Wasiirka Madaxtooyaddu waxa uu tilmaamay in aanu shirkaasi Somaliland wax shaqo ah ku lahayn, kana qeyb geli doonin, waxaanu yidhi “Haddii ay tahay shir Soomaaliya loo qabanayo, sabab aanu u tagnaa ma jirto, dee Soomaaliya iyagaa Soomaaliya la yidhaahdaa oo marti qaadka loo sameeyay ee ha tagaan. Hadii sida la sheegayo uu Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya guddoominayana dee sabab aanu u tagnaaba ma jirto.”

Wasiirka oo la weydiiyay waxa shirkani kaga duwan yahay kuwii hore ee ay ka qeyb galeen waxa uu yidhi “Haa, wuu ka duwanaa shirkii Dubai Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya ayaa ku wada hadlayay. Kii London umuurta dadka Soomaalida ah baa lagu xalilayay oo may ahayn wax gaar ah oo midnimada Soomaaliya loogu yeedhay oo dhaqaale loogu ururinayo oo hawshooda gaarka ah lagaga hadlayee, waxay ahayd.”

 

“Maadaama oo aanu ahayn Dawlad madax banaan oo u diyaar ah inay mawqifkeeda beesha caalamka u cadayso waanu tagnay waxaana naloo casuumay annaga iyo dawladda Soomaaliya si siman xiligaasi,”ayuu yidhi Md. Xirsi Cali Xaaji Xasan.

 

Wasiirka Madaxtooyadu waxa uu intaasi ku ladhay “Haddii iyaga (Soomaaliya) loo qabtay shirkan ma xaasidayno, ma caayayno, mana maagayno. Laakiin Annaga (Somaliland) wax na khuseeya ma aha.”

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Dawladda Imaaraadka Oo Diyaarad Khaas Ah U Soo Diraysa Madaxwayne Siilaanyo Oo Dubai Kula Kulmaya Madaxwaynaha Somaliya

 

Madaxwaynaha Somaliland Md Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo iyo weftigiisa, ayaa la sheegaya in dawladda Imaaraadku ay ....

 

Hargeysa (GNS)- Madaxwayanaha Somaliland Md Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) iyo wefti uu hogaaminayo ayaa la filyaa inay maalinta barri ah u ambo baxaan dalka isku tagga Imaaraadka Carabta.

 

Madaxwaynaha Somaliland Md Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo iyo weftigiisa, ayaa la sheegaya in dawladda Imaaraadku ay diyaarad gaar ah u soo direyso, taasi oo geyn doonto dalkasi.

 

Madaxwaynaha Somaliland, ayaa la sheegay in marka uu gaadho dalka Imaaraadka uu La kulmi doono Madaxwaynaha Somaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud, waxaana lagu waramayaa in dawladda Imaaraadku ay martigalisay kulanka koowaad ee Madaxwaynaha Somaliland iyo ka Somaliya.

 

Ilo-wareedyo xog-ogaal ah ayaa Gabiley News u sheegay in labada Madaxwayne ay ku kulmi doonaan guri ku yaala duleedka Magaalada Dubai oo dawladda Imaaraadku ugu tallo-gashay inuu ka dhaco kulanka u horeeya ee ay isku baranayaan Labada Madaxwayne, iyadda oo markaa ka dib ay isla eegi doonaan halka laga sii ambo-qaadayo wada-hadalada labada dhinac u dhexeeya, kuwaasi oo kii ugu dambeeyay uu ka dhacay Dubai.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somaliland president set to fly to UAE in order to meet his Somali Counterpart.

 

Hargeisa-Somaliland president Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo accompanied by delegation set to embark trip to United Arab Emirates on Friday.

 

The president along with the delegation is supposed to be on board on special plane that the EAE is sending in order to carry Somaliland delegation to the UAE.

 

Once the president and the delegation he is heading set foot on the UAE soil, Somaliland president is expected to confer with his Somali counterpart, Hassan Sh. Mohamud.

 

Reports indicate that the United Arab Emirates is hosting the first meeting of its kind that will bring together Somaliland and Somali president to hold face to face meeting.

 

News reports further say that the two heads of states set to meet at venue that lies in the outskirts of Dubai which the UAE arranged.

 

Then it is said that the two presidents will see where they can further proceed with the ongoing talks between Somaliland and Somalia.

 

The talks between the two presidents will come at time that the Somali Provisional government demanded the US government to grant immunity to the Mohamed Ali Samatar in which a court in the US found guilty of crimes against humanity.

 

The Somaliland government came under fire for the way it spoke about the appeal made by Somali provisional government and not to taking diplomatic stance.

[Mintid Farayar]

Oodka,

 

What can I say? In the words of Ronald Reagan, "Here we go again..."

[N.O.R.F]

^So what is the alternative Oody?

[NGONGE]

^^ The Guru has turned into the worst kind of mucaarid these days. For the past year or so he has been attacking the government on rumours nad heresay only to be proven wrong at every turn. But, somehow, he keeps building his attacks and basing them on the previous discredited points of the past when it is plainly obvious that his previous attacks all proved to be unfounded. Now he's back to that same place again and talking about the government's botched policy even though he himself always ends up agreeing with it when the rumours prove wrong.

 

But it's not only the guru that holds this crazy position, it's almost the whole of the opposition. An opposition that did not oppose the attendence of the previous London conference but are now hinting at it being a bad idea. An opposition that did not oppose the talks between SL & Somalia but are now in moral panic about nothing in particular and an opposition that keeps criticising the FM but have no solid points to pin on him.

 

As for "transparent political conceit", the only conceit I see in Siilaanyo's style of government (and have mocked in the past) is his love of "guddi" and other nonsense. This is where his opposition have to grow some balls and start refusing to take part in his guddi style government instead of joining it and agreeing to it then going back to hint at some dark happenings behind closed doors and other nonsense. Wax fahama.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

NGONGE did you and oodweyne meet in the Shisha bar yet or not?

[N.O.R.F]

and in other words no alternative

[Mintid Farayar]

Gentlemen,

 

Before bullets ricochet needlessly in a crowded room filled with like-minded people, let's take a deep breath.

 

Do not take criticism for lack of loyalty. The pressure/agitation must be kept up on any SL administration to keep them on the agreed collective path. This is necessary to prevent the usual African/Arab personal rent-seeking activities from eclipsing the larger agenda.

[N.O.R.F]

waxad haysid so bandhig saxib

[N.O.R.F]

:D

 

Ok let's start with the current policy. Thats a good starting point. What is the current SL foreign policy?

 

I'm not a blind follower of the current govnt dee. But you haveto convince me that what you're saying is right. PM me if you have to. If you think the PM will be taken hostage then email me

[NGONGE]

^^ Igu dar warya.

 

Mintid Farayar;929664 wrote:

Gentlemen,

 

Before bullets ricochet needlessly in a crowded room filled with like-minded people, let's take a deep breath.

 

Do not take criticism for lack of loyalty. The pressure/agitation must be kept up on any SL administration to keep them on the agreed collective path. This is necessary to prevent the usual African/Arab personal rent-seeking activities from eclipsing the larger agenda.

That goes without saying, saaxib. But it all depends on how the pressure is applied and what arguments are put forth. The sweeping generalisations that we see from the SL opposition serve no purpose but division and mistrust. Of course, that is not to say there are genuine concerns and questions to be asked of the Kulmiye admin and their approach to Somali politics.

[Mintid Farayar]

What SL opposition are you referring to, sxb? The organized, recognized opposition back home? Or are you intimating a more nefarious agenda on the part of the Guru and I, right here on these Boards? Hmmm... Please elaborate.

[NGONGE]

^^ You and the Guru did not invent any of the half truths aimed at the government, saaxib. I am talking about the recognised opposition back home. I am attacking a political position, not you or the guru personally.

[Mintid Farayar]

Ngonge,

 

I'm, really, genuinely asking 'what these half-truths' are? Because I'm not aware of them currently. From the little I've read from local news sources back home, the whole top layer of leadership(gov't and opposition) is in reactive mode 24/7 to the changing landscape in the region. Actually, the whole Somali peninsula is in the same condition, but we're the only democratic/vote-based system so our laundry gets publicly aired.

 

But from your earlier comments(a couple of posts before), some opposition action has really set you on edge. That's the explanation/telling I'm asking for.