Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 20, 2012 Somaliland Keen On Independence At London Conference 20 JUNE 2012 London — Officials from Somaliland and the southern Somali government met in London to discuss the future of Somalia and Somaliland, Garowe Online reports. Officials from the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) of Somalia and the breakaway region of Somaliland began talks in an undisclosed location in London. The Somaliland Somalia meeting was an issue agreed on at the London conference earlier this year. According to the final communiqué from the London conference held in February, this conference was organized to open up talks between the two governments to clarify their future relations. For twenty odd years, Somaliland's stance has been to gain independence from Somalia. Despite talks between the two governments Somaliland officials maintain that they are seeking independence. Speaking to the Somaliland media in Hargeisa Foreign Minister Dr. Mohamed Abdullahi Omar assured that Somaliland would not renounce its bid for independence. "We should maintain our dignity as an independent nation, deserving of international respect. Our sovereignty is non-negotiable," Dr Omar said. The issue of independence will likely cause an interesting debate over whether or not the TFG is willing to recognize Somaliland as sovereign nation. The TFG have kept an open mind approach to the conference but political analysts say the lack of a solid position on Somaliland's independence, could result in a failed conference. Somaliland pulled out of the talks last month when TFG President, Sharif Sheikh Ahmed appointed two ministers from Puntland state to attend the conference. After protest from the Somaliland government the Puntland ministers did not attend the conference in London. Somaliland and Puntland have hotly contested regions in northern Somalia which both lay claim to. http://allafrica.com/stories/201206201205.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Little progress in Somaliland and Somalia talks LONDON — A tense first day formal discussions between feuding neighbours Somaliland and Somalia in a secret location near London has run into rough weather on Wednesday. According to sources in London issues such as Somaliland’s independence, bilateral ties and cooperation in key areas remain as the biggest hurdles. “The first day deliberation lasted five hours and the two sides remain deadlocked on number of issues,” the source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Somalilandpress. Somaliland, which enjoyed relative peace for the last two decades, primarily seeks Somalia to accept and acknowledge its statehood. Mogadishu believes the northern region is part of its integral territory. Somaliland and Somalia’s transitional government have struggled to put their relationship on an even keel since joining into a temporary union in July 1960. Somaliland withdrew from the union in 1991 after a war that left hundreds of thousands of people killed says it has no plans to reunify. The source said talks will resume later today (Thursday) and are expected to last the whole day. It further added the mediators — Britain, Norway and the EU might force the negotiations into an overtime– as they sought to find a compromise. The sponsors said they want the two sides to clarify their future relations and where the two stood on issues such as foreign aid, security, development and cooperation. Regional exports have said a breakthrough was unlikely any time soon considering this was the first face-to-face dialogue in 21 years. The private meeting between the rival sides has prompted speculation as to the timing– the transitional government’s term expires in August and is due to hand power over to a new permanent government. Wednesday’s five-hour long meeting was a preparatory talk which could represent the start of the next stage of negotiations if common ground was established. Both sides have sent a team of five member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Shirkii Somaliland Iyo Somalia Oo maalintii labaad ka Socda Aqalka Chevering House June 21st, 2012 Shirkii wada hadalka Somaliland iyo Somalia ee ay marti-gelisay dawladda Ingiriisku ayaa maanta galinka danbe lagu soo gabo gabeenayaa aqalka Chevering House oo ku yaala Sevenoaks, oo ah duleedka Magaaladda London. Shirkan oo soconaya labo maalmood, waxa la sheegay inay ka qeyb galeen Wasiirka Arrimaha dibadda ee Africa Henry Bellingham iyo dublamaasiyiin ka socda dalalka reer galbeedka iyo daneeyeyaasha mandaqadda Geeska Afrika. Shirkan ayaa ilaa iminka si habsami leh u socda, waxaana maanta oo Khamiis ah taariikhduna tahay 21 Jun 2012 saacada Labada Duhurnimo, labada dhinac ka soo saari doonaan war murtiyeed ay labada geesood si wada jir ah ugu saxeexan yihiin. Hasayeeshee Lama oga nuxurka war murtiyeedkani xambaarsan yahay, waxaase la filayaa in muhuumadiisu ku kooban tahay gogol dhiga qaabka labada dhinac u wada hadlayaan, marka wada hadalada Somaliland iyo Somalia furmo. Ergadda Somaliland ee shirkan ka qayb gashay waxa hoggaaminayay Wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, waxaana xubno ka ah Guddoomiye Ku xigeenka koowaad ee Wakiiladda Md. Baashe Maxamed Faarax, Guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaridka ah ee UCID Eng. Faysal Cali Waraabe, Wasiirka Madaxtooyadda Md. Xirsi Cali Xaaji Xasan iyo Wasiirka shaqadda iyo arrimaha bulshadda Md. Maxamuud Axmed Garaad. Dhinaca Somalia waxa uga matelaya Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha iyo amniga Cabdisalam Macalin Maxamed Mohamed, waxaana xunbo ka ah Wasiirka waxbarashadda Axmed Caydiid Ibraahim, Safiirka Somalia u fadhiya Jabuuti Cabdi Xuseen Guul-wade iyo laba xildhibaan oo ka tirsan baarlamaanka dalkaasi oo kala ah Xuseen Xasan iyo Maxamed Xasan Aadan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aadan Jugle Posted June 21, 2012 loool gogol xaadh, this is the 22nd century we are meeting in five star hotels we don't need "gogol xaadh" the old custom of cleaning the rubbish from underthe tree before the sit down of tribal cheifs. 2 days meeting and it was all about "gogol xaadh" that must be one huge..gogol. I hope they have used a good vacume cleaning and extera luxurious carpet shampoo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Somaliland future discussed in UK Somaliland hopes for international recognition Leaders from Somalia and Somaliland are holding their first formal discussions on the future of the self-proclaimed Somaliland republic. It broke away in 1991 and wants to be a separate country - but it has not been internationally recognised. Mogadishu wants the northern territory to be part of a single Somali state. Since declaring independence, Somaliland has enjoyed relative peace in contrast to the rest of Somalia, which has been plagued by conflict. Timing of talks The talks are being held on Wednesday and Thursday in a secret location near London. Britain, Norway and the European Union have said they want the two sides to negotiate a settlement. Somaliland agreed to enter into the talks during a February meeting in London, when 40 global leaders met to tackle piracy, terrorism and political instability in Somalia. But its administration says its priority is to remain separate from the rest of Somalia - and wants Mogadishu to recognise its independence. Analysts have questioned the timing of the talks - the mandate of Somalia's transitional government expires in August when it is due to hand over to an elected president. Somaliland unilaterally declared independence 21 years ago after the overthrow of Somali military dictator Siad Barre. It is relatively stable and holds regular elections, which have seen peaceful transfers of power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Somaliland iyo Somalia oo Soo Dhaweeyay 8 Qodob oo ka soo baxay Shirkii London June 21st, 2012 LONDON (Somaliland.Org)-Shirkii labadii maalmood ee la soo dhaafay ka socday Chevering House oo ku yaala duleedka London ee ay ku wada hadlayeen ergooyin ka kala socday Somaliland iyo Somalia, ayaa galabta si rasmi ah loo soo gabo-gabeeyay, waxaana shirkaasi laga soo saaray bayaan ka kooban sideed qodob oo la xidhiidha iskaashiga ay labadda dal wada yeelan doonaan mustaqbalka. Shirkan waxa qodobadda ka soo baxay si wada jir ah u soo dhaweeyay wufuudii ka socotay labadda dal, waxaana ka mid ahaa qodobadii laga soo saaray inay Somaliland iyo Somalia iskaashadaan dhinacyadda Nabad-gelyadda, la dagaalanka Budhcad badeeda, argagixisadda, kalluumaysiga sharci darradda ah iyo in la hagaajiyo isku socodka xuduudaha labada dal ay yeelan doonaan mustaqabalka. Qodobadda kale ee baaqa shirkan laga soo saaray ka mid ahaa in Beesha caalamku ay ka shaqeyso gargaarka Somaliland iyo Somalia Waxa kale oo warku intaasi ku darayaa in qodobadda Baaqaasi ku jiray la isku waafaqay ay ka mid tahay in labada Madaxweyne ee Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya ay dhawaan ku kulmaan sadexda dal ee Imaaraadka carabta, Qatar iyo Swizerland midkood, isla markaana ay wada xaajoodka labadda dhinac intooda badan ay sii axadhaan marka ay isku yimaadaan. Waxa iyana ka mid ahaa in wada hadaladdu ay sii socdaan oo la sameeyo Guddi farsamo. Waxa kale oo lagu heshiiyay in Dawladda Soomaaliya ay ka gudubto marxaladda ku meel-gaadhka ah. Wasiirka Wasaaradda Arrimaha dibadda Somaliland Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, ayaa sheegay inay soo dhaweynayaan shirkan iyo go’aamaddan ka soo baxay , waxaanu tilmaamay in kulankani uu ahaa mid hordhac ah oo sii socon doona. Wasiirka Arrimaha gudaha Soomaaliya C/Samad Macalin Maxamuud, ayaa isna sheegay inay soo dhaweynayaan wada hadaladan oo uu ku sifeeyay kuwo hordhac ah oo la sii ambo-qaadi doono. Guddoomiye Ku xigeenka koowaad ee Golaha Wakiiladda Md. Baashe Maxamed Faarax, ayaa isaguna shirkan ku macneeyay mid ku dhammaaday jawi wanaagsan. “Waxaan u arkayay shirkan fursad fiican, waana markii u horeysay ee Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya is horfadhiistaan muddo 21 sanadood ah. Waxa shirka ka soo baxay baaq sideed qodob ka kooban oo aanu dhammaantood ku heshiinay,”ayuu yidhi Md. Baashe Maxamed Faarax. Guddoomiye Ku xigeenka koowaad ee Wakiiladda oo hadalkiisa sii watay waxa uu intaasi ku daray “Waxaanu ku faraxsan nahay inaanu anagoo siman oo labada dawladood ah Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya is hor-fadhiisano oo wax is weydiino.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aadan Jugle Posted June 21, 2012 xaaji mashaxarad, walee waxad tahay durbaan madhan. non sense Mr copy and paste. haye hada maxaad la mashxaradaysaa? i don't see a single point thats advanced our case and this is the 3rd useless meeting we attended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Well its good they talked and agreed on 8 points its good i welcome it now we should wait and see how both countries can agree to restore relations and they want the international community to facilitate further talks between the two Presidents that's great. Maanta wa guul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted June 21, 2012 This is a progress indeed. Considering the fact this was a preparatory meeting, the outcome exceeded my expectation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano_Geel Posted June 21, 2012 Waa macno darro, waxa kasoo baxay shirkan iyo ajan-dihiisa...Maxaa loo soo haadl qaadi waayay, madax-banaanida qaranka Somaliland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted June 21, 2012 Caano_Geel;843873 wrote: Waa macno darro, waxa kasoo baxay shirkan iyo ajan-dihiisa...Maxaa loo soo haadl qaadi waayay, madax-banaanida qaranka Somaliland. (it doesn't work that way, saaxib). Early days, very early days. But the clear hints are all over the scanned document Xaaji X put there (if it's genuine of course). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 21, 2012 Caano Inta wa intay ku heshiyeen 8da qodob wali shirkanu wuxu aha hordhac hadaad ama gogol xaadh shirarku wa si soconayaan boqolaal qodob ba hadhay keep in mind maalin kaliyaa uun ba la shiray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
