Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 General Criticisms of the Consultation Draft http://ncfsomali.net/index.php/forum-papers/56-consultation-draft-constitution-the-next-somali-liberator 1. The Constitution-Making Process had been associated with the following flaws: a. The process was an externally-driven(read UNDP) one, funded by a certain group of governments which makes it vulnerable to loss of integrity and credibility as these governments have their own agendas to stand by b. The Independent Federal Constitution Commission is not so independent after all, and the process of selecting its members was not transparent to the public c. Although the need of a constitution is unchallenged, the timing of the constitution is seen as unsuitable considering the peace and stability which are prerequisites for drafting a constitution are lacking. It is also said to violate the same guidelines the UN has set for the timing of drafting a constitution, which is only after a long-term peace agreement has been signed d. The consultation draft constitution was prepared without considering the means of its implementation, especially when the country is politically and administratively divided e. The constitution-making process is based on assumptions that federalism is the panacea of the current political crisis facing the country, ignoring the proposal of over 60 Somali scholars that were brought together to discuss the alternatives of Federalization and Decentralization – an effort tarnished by the TFG and the UNDP which sponsored the program in the first place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted April 6, 2012 This is from 2010, there was no Garowe Agreements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 This so called constitution drafted by UNDP consultants which is propagating division and more conflicts by introducing federalism should be burned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 Somalia;815336 wrote: This is from 2010, there was no Garowe Agreements . the establishment of federal states as referenced in the Transitional Federal Charter of 2004, deciding the status of Mogadishu by a federal parliament, and recognizing Puntland as a founding federal state. Somali's dont want federalism. And every document denying Somalia's Unitery State should be burned. waa xaaraan. Somalia constitution of 1960 was adopted through a referendum by the Somali people. and not adopted by 4 men and a UNDP consulant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted April 6, 2012 Based on what do Somalis not want federalism? I have yet to see which part of the agreements one disagrees with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 Somalia is a Unitary State as adopted in the 1961 constitutional referendum by the Somali people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted April 6, 2012 Carafaat;815340 wrote: Somalia is a Unitary State as adopted in the 1961 constitutional referendum by the Somali people. part time snm, part time pro somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted April 6, 2012 ^^^^^^^^ you got to choose one and only one. split personality is not your strength. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 You are saying one can not be a Unionist from a certain clan? arent you Puntlander and a Somali unionist.lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted April 6, 2012 Carafaat;815347 wrote: You are saying one can not be a Unionist from a certain clan? arent you Puntlander and a Somali unionist.lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 6, 2012 back to topic. Why do you oppose the somali constitution adopted by the people of Somalia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted April 6, 2012 Carafaat;815349 wrote: back to topic . Why do you oppose the somali constitution adopted by the people of Somalia? what topic:confused::confused: oh, the road to no where thread. my bad, carry on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relentless Posted April 6, 2012 ^^^ these pirates are funny and sad at the same time..no wonder its an ease defeating them..when you have the likes of ^^^ lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted April 6, 2012 Relentless;815353 wrote: ^^^ these pirates are funny and sad at the same time..no wonder its an ease defeating them..when you have the likes of ^^^ lol :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relentless Posted April 6, 2012 The problem with somali's is they try and re-invent the wheel for the love of God your talking about a consitution and you even havent attained peace. Furthermore Somaliland never ratified the 1960 constitution so i dont think they will ratify the tribal federalism consitution which the majority of Somali's reject. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites