Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 I am very happy that berbera which used to be the third largest city in somalia is under going a renaissance unseen since the last effective govt of somalia maxamad siyad barre. Berbera is definitely a city to watch out for in the future, I've seen a number of projects happening for the city for a while now so it looks their has been strong policy change from Silanyo administration to strengthen berbera local council to provide key infrastructure for the city. Once the infrastructure is there(the platform), well then logicaly the platform will be full with business and investment players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 Its a shame wallahi the third largest city in somalia has just been neglected like that especially when it has key infrastructure like a port-airport-roads. It's an absolute disaster!!! I can under erigavo neglect its very hard for that place to boom being isolated with no connection to other cities, but berbera wallahi there is no excuse. The somalilanders say "meeshu wa kuleel thats why we cant develop it" thats nonsense. Why is jabuti and bosaso developed which is the same climate? bosaso has even less infrastructure then berbera. Marka taas wa been cad weeye arin kale ba jirto tribal issue at berbera port, i hope that has been sorted out to allow for the city to develop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted April 6, 2012 The somalilanders say "meeshu wa kuleel thats why we cant develop it" thats nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hustler Posted April 6, 2012 Dr you are right berbera use to be amazing city but the past 20 years everyone has ignored. It was the only city in somlia that had two ports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 Hustler;815280 wrote: Dr you are right berbera use to be amazing city but the past 20 years everyone has ignored. It was the only city in somlia that had two ports ayaan daro ba ku dhacday meeshas. Somalis are killing themselves to have control over such strategic areas that are similar to berbera in infrastructure and somaliland just ignored it for 20 years is truly ariin lala yaabo. I can see why the neglect happened because of tribal issues and one clan not having total control over it to prosper themselves and the administration worries over starting a war if it meddles into it, but the administration should've of sorted that mess out a long time ago. U can't allow for such strategic cities like that to be held hostage by tribal differences because at the end of the day everyone then will lose and so will the govt!!! It's the administration role to bring all conflicting stakeholders together to work out a plan so that everyone can benefit, if they can't do that then sxb war meeshu nidaam kama jiddo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 Hustler the infrastructure at berbera is word-class in somali standards, there is no reason why the city shouldn't have developed into one of the cities of somalia. It doesnt even get a mention now and is viewed as transit point only. Like "war berbera baan soo maray waxan uu socoday airportka bosaso ama hargeisa"...Its just pit-stop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted April 6, 2012 true its just pit stop nowadays & I think it has to do more with business.People r moving to & building their houses in hargeisa/burao cos there r more people here,if you run store or cafe you make more money and I think by the fact lot people driving or transportation lot better these days make it much easier.Both port/airport running good.There nothing really tribal about it. Would you rather build a house of say 50,000+ in where you have to move your family every 8 months(xagaa bax) & on top of that you can't rent when you can commute daily couple hrs to much cooler/entertaining places..Ofc things change in the long run if & when prosperity in sight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 burahadeer;815287 wrote: true its just pit stop nowadays & I think it has to do more with business.People r moving to & building their houses in hargeisa/burao cos there r more people here,if you run store or cafe you make more money and I think by the fact lot people driving or transportation lot better these days make it much easier.Both port/airport running good.There nothing really tribal about it. That doesnt make sense, Somalia one if its biggest factors in wars iis lack of infrastructure and resources and people all moving to wear the infrastructure is which causes conflict with the local populations of those cities that are blessed with infrastructure, That should've of occured in Berbera where everyone in burco and even hargeisa moving there but it didn't and is one of the suprising things in somalia. The usc clan in the central regions pretty much all ran ran to mogadishu for the infrastructure. The gedo boys ran to kismayo. The puntlanders ran to bosaso. You see the pattern??? running towards where the infrastructure is and where-ever the infrastructure is when population build around it and make the city big. This didn't occur in Berbera which is one of the suprises of the somali civil war. Plus businesses should be thinking of their profits, trucking products to burco and hargeisa is going to affect their bottomline, where-as if all of the people moved to berbera their trucking costs would become non-existant since their at the city where everything is brought in and taken out. But somalis do say waqoyi wa dad waalan, which again this is something VERY UNUSUAL from that part of somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted April 6, 2012 It's all about economics...that simple.If you have $100,000 & live a small town of say 50,000 & there is a city of million people nearby,wouldn't you think of moving here to make more bucs.Why people going to metropolitan places is to feed their families.A lady with 8 children, no man in the house can sell khat in Hargeisa & bring in $50+ a day. BTW a lot those commute r comfortable,lot money involve here.The labourers stay put but then won't help local economy much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 burahadeer;815296 wrote: It's all about economics...that simple.If you have $100,000 & live a small town of say 50,000 & there is a city of million people nearby,wouldn't you think of moving here to make more bucs.Why people going to metropolitan places is to feed their families.A lady with 8 children, no man in the house can sell khat in Hargeisa & bring in $50+ a day. BTW a lot those commute r comfortable,lot money involve here.The labourers stay put but then won't help local economy much. Why you think when you as a normal person buys a house its all about location, location, location. U know what that location means? Infrastructure and services for people. Services are provided by businesses, infrastructure by government. You can't have services without infrastructure. You cant move products around a city if their isn't roads you get it sxb? Infrastructure is the most crucial for allowing businesses develop, clientele follow where both of that exist and houses become alot more expensive in those sorts of areas for obvious reason then say in a remote location that lacks infrastructure and services. Its basic economic 101!!! Berbera should've of thrived sxb, and it didn't one of the great mysteries. It had all the ingredients. Third largest city in somalia, it had the population because the infrastructure was there. That infrastructure makes business set up shop. Over time Berbera would've of grown to become a major city of somalia which it didn't due to bad government policies and it's good to see silanyo administration is changing that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted April 6, 2012 Errm. Being over populated doesn't make a city better than another. Berbera may not have as many people and buildings as H-Town but that has always been the case and it is actually the beauty of this great city. It boasts a great history, location making it popular with foreign (qurbo joog) and local tourists. My Aabo is there at the moment and the number of projects under way just makes me giddy with excitement. In all honesty, Berbera has always been the heart of SLs economy, it silly to suggest that businesses stay in Berbera as the port is the central link for northern businesses in SL and beyond. People need to stop waiting around for a govt to build their cities. While, current govt. seems to be investor friendly and there is amazing potential but in the end it's local community initiatives and local business people who can make real and lasting difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 Blessed stop lying to yourself. There is no excuse why an infrastructure rich city such as berbera failed to develop itself. Im not talking about population, I am talking about development and making their people life easier. Berbera is shythole runti. Its pit-stop for everyone to go to other more developed cities of Somalia. That alone should tell you something. There is no excuse for the lack of development of Berbera which was somalia third largest city, but like I said the topic is The forgotten Berbera has been Remembered FINALLY and its about time. Its having a Renaissance right now so I am happy somaliland folks have woken up to this disastrous policy of turning what technically used to be the third or fourth largest city in Somalia into a god damn ghost town that serves merely as pitstop for all somalis to go to other cities in Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relentless Posted April 6, 2012 Dr_Osman;815395 wrote: Blessed stop lying t yourself. There is no excuse why are infrastructure rich city such as berbera failed to develop itself. There is no excuse but like I said the topic is The forgotten Berbera Under Renaissance so they realised their mistake and they fixed it. KUDOS to Somaliland folks. But there is no excuse for berbera lack of development Osman..when we need advise on fishing villages, criminal enterprises and how to talk and constribute to global warming through hot air we will ask you. But this is Berbera Somaliland Son unfortunately for you the white sand beaches are pirate free. Stick your fishing villages saxib...this way --------> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 6, 2012 Relentless, pirates is not insulting. Considering the crimes that happen in Somalia like pedophilia in hargeisa and also pornography and chopping of heads in awdal. Pirates is probably the least crime im insulted about. Hargeisa is finished bro hadu manta dr osman ka dhigay bosaso hargeisa that means im not even competing anymore after that those heavy skyline shots with 2 more glass towers going up to impact the skyline and other dhagax dhigis coming this year 4 u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites