Mogadishu: Anti peace group steps up campaign to again derail peace process.....

[Recovering-Romantics]

General Duke;814109 wrote:

Exactly, if someone can kindly show me how it disadvantages any Somali group it would be most welcome.

It's not a matter of what's wrong with this so-called constitution but rather what's not wrong with it. Specifically, this idea that Farole & Puntland will unilaterally rule their regions enriching themselves of their ports & airports while asking the people of Mogadishu to share their revenues with Puntland is a lousy selfish attempt that will never see the light of day. Mogadishu will be ruled by its people & its revenue will be spent in Banadir & not Puntland.

 

It seems folks that are asking us to read this pathetic collection of clan ambitions have themselves not fully read it. Under this so-called constitution all one has to do to be classified as Somali is to live in Somalia for 5 years or be born in Somalia. It's a joke & an insult to the Somali people.*

[kingofkings]

Recovering-Romantics;814116 wrote:

It's not a matter of what's wrong with this so-called constitution but rather what's not wrong with it. Specifically, this idea that Farole & Puntland will unilaterally rule their regions enriching themselves of their ports & airports while asking the people of Mogadishu to share their revenues with Puntland is a lousy selfish attempt that will never see the light of day. Mogadishu will be ruled by its people & its revenue will be spent in Banadir & not Puntland.

 

It seems folks that are asking us to read this pathetic collection of clan ambitions have themselves not fully read it. Under this so-called constitution all one has to do to be classified as Somali is to live in Somalia for 5 years or be born in Somalia. It's a joke & an insult to the Somali people.*

fadlan stay on topic. how did we go from constitution to revenue sharing:confused:

[Che -Guevara]

Granting citizenship to non-Somalis ain't bad idea! Only xenophobes will object to that.

 

 

Duke......be warned, share the dam oil:D

[Recovering-Romantics]

Che -Guevara;814120 wrote:

Granting citizenship to non-Somalis ain't bad idea! Only xenophobes will object to that.

 

Yea, granting citizenship to non-Somalis is such a bright idea for a nation of 10 million. But then I forgot, you are the internationalist Jihadi that sees Abu Mansur Al-Amriki as a fellow Somali.

[General Duke]

Recovering-Romantics;814116 wrote:

It's not a matter of what's wrong with this so-called constitution but rather what's not wrong with it. Specifically, this idea that Farole & Puntland will unilaterally rule their regions enriching themselves of their ports & airports while asking the people of Mogadishu to share their revenues with Puntland is a lousy selfish attempt that will never see the light of day. Mogadishu will be ruled by its people & its revenue will be spent in Banadir & not Puntland.

 

It seems folks that are asking us to read this pathetic collection of clan ambitions have themselves not fully read it. Under this so-called constitution all one has to do to be classified as Somali is to live in Somalia for 5 years or be born in Somalia. It's a joke & an insult to the Somali people.*

Again you are all over the place, where in the constitution does it mention Puntland & Faroole not sharing anything with the people of Banadir?

 

Also is it not hypocritical for us Somali's to deny people Citizenship rights when we have over the last 21 years become Citizens of the world?

 

Again you need to do more explaining and less shouting...

[General Duke]

Recovering-Romantics;814123 wrote:

Yea, granting citizenship to non-Somalis is such a bright idea for a nation of 10 million. But then I forgot, you are the internationalist Jihadi that sees Abu Mansur Al-Amriki as a fellow Somali.

Abu Mansuur Al Amriki is a criminal and thus his actions bars him from becoming a Citizen. However this article itself will benefit Somali's born in the Diaspora who's parents were also born in the Diaspora as is becoming the norm now with our generation...

[Che -Guevara]

Recovering-Romantics;814123 wrote:

Yea, granting citizenship to non-Somalis is such a bright idea for a nation of 10 million. But then I forgot, you are the internationalist Jihadi that sees Abu Mansur Al-Amriki as a fellow Somali.

Xenophobia is not healthy. Get over your hatred.

[Recovering-Romantics]

General Duke;814124 wrote:

Again you are all over the place, where in the constitution does it mention Puntland & Faroole not sharing anything with the people of Banadir?

 

Also is it not hypocritical for us Somali's to deny people Citizenship rights when we have over the last 21 years become Citizens of the world?

 

Again you need to do more explaining and less shouting...

Currently, the tax collected from the people of Mogadishu, Mogadishu Port & Adan Abdulle Airport in Mogadishu is what sustains this government. Puntland contributes exactly ZERO Dollars to the current central Government.Farole wants to legalize this theft and present it as Somalia's new constitution. & Even though this so-called new constitution has not been presented publicly, those us of that actually spoke with members of the drafting committee know what is going to be in it, and it's not going to go down well with the Somali people. Ahmed Dirie knows what's coming & hence his outrage that's share by the people of Mogadishu. This thing will get ugly & the sooner it's killed, the better.

 

Only certain Western countries give citizenship; almost no country in the developing world does that & for the obvious reasons. Somalia is one of the poorest countries in the world, if not the poorest, & it's very limited resources should go to the Somali people.*

[Recovering-Romantics]

General Duke;814127 wrote:

Abu Mansuur Al Amriki is a criminal and thus his actions bars him from becoming a Citizen. However this article itself will benefit Somali's born in the Diaspora who's parents were also born in the Diaspora as is becoming the norm now with our generation...

 

Under the current constitution, the simple fact that a person is ethically a Somali qualifies them a Somali citizenship no matter where they are their parents were born. There's no reason why it should be changed.

[kingofkings]

Recovering-Romantics;814133 wrote:

Currently, the tax collected from the people of Mogadishu, Mogadishu Port & Adan Abdulle Airport in Mogadishu is what sustains this government. Puntland contributes exactly ZERO Dollars to the current central Government.Farole wants to legalize this theft and present it as Somalia's new constitution. & Even though this so-called new constitution has not been presented publicly, those us of that actually spoke with members of the drafting committee know what is going to be in it, and it's not going to go down well with the Somali people. Ahmed Dirie knows what's coming & hence his outrage that's share by the people of Mogadishu. This thing will get ugly & the sooner it's killed, the better.

 

Only certain Western countries give citizenship; almost no country in the developing world does that & for the obvious reasons. Somalia is one of the poorest countries in the world, if not the poorest, & it's very limited resources should go to the Somali people.*

fadlan how did we go from constitution to other subjects. either find what you and this clan leader dislike about the constitution in paricular or do all of us a favor and exist the thread. this is not forum to dump your calacal. fadlan respect the forum as it is against to

 

12 - Spamming: no spamming. No commercial posts or flooding the forum with useless content.

[Recovering-Romantics]

Che -Guevara;814128 wrote:

Xenophobia is not healthy. Get over your hatred.

This is the kind of deluded thinking that made kilinki-5aad part of Ethiopia. No thanks, being xenophobic is healthy in this context.

[General Duke]

Recovering-Romantics;814133 wrote:

Currently, the tax collected from the people of Mogadishu, Mogadishu Port & Adan Abdulle Airport in Mogadishu is what sustains this government. Puntland contributes exactly ZERO Dollars to the current central Government.Farole wants to legalize this theft and present it as Somalia's new constitution.

I agree, you also know the flip side of this is that the current government in Mogadishu does not pay anything towards the running of Puntland admin, does not provide public service to the people of Puntland. Yet it claims to be the national government and Puntland recognize it. Thus why are you upset? If Mogadishu does not pay anything to Puntland yet Puntland State recognize Mogadishu as the capital and this benefits Mogadishu in terms of international attention, embassies, schools being built, airport reconstruction as is the Turkish case.

 

Why are you upset?

[Recovering-Romantics]

Kingofkings,

 

You need to stop trolling.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

all those angry posts romantic and not a single thing pointed as what is wrong with the constitution?

 

I have an issue though, lol, the source of the law is to be the Quran and Hadith. What is the need for lawmakers or a parliament if that is so.

[General Duke]

Recovering-Romantics;814133 wrote:

Even though this so-called new constitution has not been presented publicly, those us of that actually spoke with members of the drafting committee know what is going to be in it, and it's not going to go down well with the Somali people. Ahmed Dirie knows what's coming & hence his outrage that's share by the people of Mogadishu. This thing will get ugly & the sooner it's killed, the better.

 

Again, the laughable notion Ahmed Diiriye is a constitutional expert.