Ayaan became refugee again, she fled from Netherland

[Haashim]

This is ayaan she is hiding in somwhere in the globe, nobody knows where is she, bal maxaa ku watay , caanaheeda may iska cabto ismariskeedana is marsato.

 

AMSTERDAM - Ayaan Hirsi Ali had done well in the 10 years since she arrived in the Netherlands as a young refugee from Somalia and, until a few months ago, she lived a quiet life in her adopted land. Never did she intend to create a national commotion.

 

She studied Dutch, took on cleaning jobs, went to

university and worked as a political scientist. She

made a name for herself pressing for the emancipation of Muslim women and documenting how thousands, living even here, were subjected to beatings, incest and emotional and sexual

abuse.

 

To the surprise of many, she became a leading voice condemning the government's support for

multiculturalism, programs costing millions of dollars a year that she considers misplaced because they help keep Muslim women isolated from Dutch society.

 

Then Ms. Hirsi Ali, 32, began receiving hate mail, anonymous messages calling her a traitor to Islam and a slut. On several Web sites, other Muslims said she deserved

to be knifed and shot. Explicit death threats by

telephone soon followed. The police told her to change homes and the mayor of Amsterdam sent bodyguards. She tried living in hiding. Finally, last month, she became a refugee again, fleeing the Netherlands.

 

"I had to speak up," she said, in a telephone

interview from her hiding place, "because most spokesmen for Muslims are men and they deny or belittle the enormous problems of Muslim women locked up in their Dutch homes."

 

Her ordeal has caused an outcry in the

Netherlands, a country already uneasy with its recent waves of immigrants and asylum seekers, now representing almost 10 percent of the population. Many Dutch see the threats as an

intolerable assault on the country's democratic

principles.

The threats have also intensified a fierce debate - one that can be heard these days across Europe - about what moral values and rules of behavior immigrants should be expected to share.

 

Though absent, Ms. Hirsi Ali seems very present

here. Her portrait has appeared on magazine covers and television and there have been

indignant newspaper editorials and questions in Parliament. Some have called her the Dutch

Salman Rushdie. In paid advertisements, more than 100 Dutch writers have offered her support.

 

"I've made people so angry because I'm talking from the inside, from direct knowledge," she said. "It's seen as treason. I'm considered an apostate and that's worse than an atheist."

 

The theme of injustice toward women in Islamic

countries has become common in the West, but it has gained fresh currency through Ms. Hirsi Ali's European perspective, her study of Dutch immigrants and her own life. Born in

Mogadishu, she grew up a typical Muslim girl in

Somalia.

When she was 5, she underwent the "cruel ritual," as she called it, of genital cutting. When her father, a Somali opposition politician, had to flee the country's political troubles, the family went to Saudi Arabia, where, she said, she was kept veiled and, much of the time, indoors.

 

At 22, her father forced her to marry a distant

cousin, a man she had never seen. But a friend helped her to escape and she finally obtained political asylum in the Netherlands.

 

She was shocked when, as a university student, she held a job as an interpreter for Dutch immigration and social workers and discovered

hidden "suffering on a terrible scale" among Muslim women even in the Netherlands. She

entered safe houses for women and girls, most of them Turkish and Moroccan immigrants, who had run away from domestic violence or forced marriages. Many had secret abortions.

 

"Sexual abuse in the family causes the most pain

because the trust is violated on all levels," she said. "The father or the uncle say nothing, nor do the mother and the sisters. It happens regularly - the incest, the beatings, the abortions. Girls commit suicide. But no one says

anything. And social workers are sworn to professional secrecy."

 

More than 100 women a year have surgery

to "restore" their virginity, she estimates in her published work. While only 10 percent of the population is non-Dutch, this group accounts for more than 60 percent of abortions, "because

the Muslim girls are kept ignorant," she said. Three out of five Moroccan-Dutch girls -Moroccans are among the largest immigrant groups - are forced to marry young men from villages back home, to keep them under control, she said.

 

A year or so ago, Ms. Hirsi Ali's case might not have attracted so much attention. But the mood in the Netherlands, as in much of Europe, changed after Sept. 11, 2001. In the month that followed, there was an unheard of backlash against the nearly one million Muslims living in the Netherlands, with more than 70 attacks against

mosques.

Sept. 11 also gave politicians licence to vent brewing animosities.

Among them was Pim Fortuyn, a maverick gay politician who was killed in May, apparently by an animal rights

activist.

He said out loud what had long been considered racist

and politically incorrect - for example, that conservative

Muslim clerics were undermining certain Dutch values

like

acceptance of homosexuality and the equality of men and women.

 

What Mr. Fortuyn did on the right, Ms. Hirsi Ali has done on the left. Many in the Labor Party, where she worked on

immigration issues, were shocked when she told

reporters

that Mr. Fortuyn was right in calling Islam

"backward."

 

"At the very least Islam is facing backward and it has

failed to provide a moral framework for our time," she said in one conversation. "If the West wants to help modernize Islam, it should invest in women because they educate the

children." To do this, she argues for drastic changes in Dutch immigration policy. The government, she says, should impose Dutch law on men who beat their wives and daughters, even

if the Muslim clergy say it is permissible. It should also end teaching the immigrants in their own language and stop paying for the more than 700 Islamic clubs, most of which,

she said, "are run by deeply conservative men and they perpetuate the segregation of women."

 

Her views, and the death threats, have divided

Muslims, who account for most immigrants here. Almost 20 Muslim associations have condemned the threats, but at the same time faulted her for criticizing Islam. Hafid Bouazza, a Dutch-Moroccan author who in the past has received letters saying he will burn in hell for his writing, said the threats were shocking. "No criticism of Islam is accepted

from women," he said. "Muslim women are particularly vulnerable."

 

Others were bitter. Ali Eddaudi, a Moroccan writer and cleric living here, dismissed "all the fuss" over a Muslim woman who "panders to the Dutch."

 

Ms. Hirsi Ali agrees that the criticism is so intense in part because she is a woman. "I am a Muslim woman saying

these things, and it has provoked a lot of hatred," she said.

 

One thing is certain: the death threats against Ms. Hirsi Ali have given more prominence to her ideas, which have now become the subject of intense debate among Dutch policy makers.

The Dutch Liberal Party has invited her to

become a candidate in the parliamentary elections next January.

 

She says she has accepted and hopes to return to the Netherlands, though she fears for her safety. "Either I stop my work, or I learn to live with the feeling that I'm not safe," she said. "I'm not stopping."

 

 

Xaa ku watay, maheeda kaaskeeda ma iska cuntoo, bariga dhuumasho kuma jirtoo.

 

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RAMADAAN KARIIM

[SomaliaOnline-President]

Walaahi waa runtaa. Bal maxaa ku watey. Its funny.

[Armstrong]

Salaamz,

 

On a recent visit to Netherlands, I kept seing this somali woman on TV. She was on almost every night. Because I do not speak dutch, I could not understand and my cousins told me she speaks ill of our diin. I was horrified to hear this. Utterly shocked and bamboozeled to see an apostate on Tv especially one from my country

 

Laa Ilaaha Ila Allah Muxamadun Rasuulu Allah

 

Netherlands has large Muslim community of Morrocans, Somalis and Turkish. I was hoping for one of them inee dilaan tan and put her out of her misery. Instead of her repenting she is continuing her attack on our diin. Where ever she goes she will not escape due punishment whether in this life or the next. It is her loss.

 

Mujahid over and out!

[Medley of extemporanea]

Xaa ku watay, you can say that again.

[Buubto]

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb

That is what u get when u critizise Islam. the whole world would be so tinny that u can't find where to hide. cadaabi dunya, subxaana laah. Ninkii soo joog laga waayo soo jiifo ayaa laga helaa

[nuune]

waligeed wareeg bay ku jiri,mar baa laakiin dhuunta lagu dhagi doonaa bilaayada!!

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

She is being invited back to the Netherlads to run for office in the next election. She is very popular in the Netherlands now. The non-Muslim majority loves her.

[Hibo]

I think wat she did waz good.

She spoke out 4 da women who were being oppressed by their abusive husbands.

[Alisomali]

First off,

to Flower

 

**** off you stupid *** *****. I guess my censored sentence to Flower speaks for its self.

 

Secondly, to all the people who keep insisting that messing with Muslims will get you in trouble, i would like to say "Wake the Hell Up" we Muslims are weak and everywhere in the world people mess with us and we don't do **** . so stop padding yourself in the back.

[RaMpAgE]

she should be caught n murder....tortured i tell ya.... :mad: ...insulting islam like....wat a sin she commited....n she deserved to be killed... :mad:

[Haboon]

Salaamzzzzzzz

 

I've been to one of her infamous lectures on her distorted version of our society

Well lets say i was about to throw my chair at her when she had finished her presentation

The Dutch(a country full of anarchists) were outraged when they heard her version

That women caused so much damage....i wish i had thrown my chair at her

[mahadi]

I have not heard nor read any of her comments, but I hope you would all stop talking about killing, beating, and whatever other terrible thing you have in your heads or hearts.

 

How about telling your own story, in opposition to hers. Explain why she is wrong or has misrepresented Islam.

 

Threatening her, much like Rushidie was threatened does nothing but add further credibility to her comments.

 

Peace be unto you

[Tony_Montana]

Kill that ***** Ayan wHoresi

:mad: :mad:

[Haboon]

Salaamzzzz

 

My dear brother no1 can undo the damage that Ayan has caused, believe me as soon as those narrow minded Dutch get an idea in their head it is difficult to get rid of

[brown-sugar]

Originally posted by mahadi:

Threatening her, much like Rushidie was threatened does nothing but add further credibility to her comments.

absolutely, ayaan can talk all she wants, her words will never change the qoer'aan, the qoer'aan will still be the same after 1400 years, instead of focussing on the things she has said, focus on your own day (dead), 'cause in the end we'll all have to answer to Allah (even ayaan)