Riyaale Named the Chair of Somaliland Negotiation Committee w/TFG

[xiinfaniin]

Mukulaalow;811205 wrote:

Siilaanyo is clever man, he knows these talks will result on the re-unification, and he will always have someone to blame for it. Riyaale.

Also, with the sure loss of H block as a result of the Khatumo formation and Buuhoodle wars, and with Siilaanyo's wish to present a unified SL as it was known in colonial times, this is the closest he can get to that deep wish of his. The reality however is much different...but in any case he is smart politician indeed.

[Mario B]

Carafaat;811114 wrote:

Abtigiis, I dont agree with you. It shows the issue is above party politics and whatever the outcome is, it needs the support of opposition. And what better way then to let the opposition leader to lead!

He is passing the buck, the man is spineless.

[burahadeer]

we know who talks about somali union all the time & why? no one take these people serious...your pseudo nationalist agenda is known to all.Let otha somalis discuss whateva may be instead of clutching to every little straw.

 

 

Plane from mogadishu landed hargeisa= see somali union.

Riyaale & sharif took same plane from nairobi= see somali union

Mogadishu TV is watched in hargeisa= see somali union.

Abdi warabe says he loves somalis= see somali union.

we speak same language= see somali union.

Warfa from Burao is marrying Isanbul from Mogadishu= see somali union.

Khumo defeated the hated SNM thugs & leading the way=see somali union :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Blessed]

Iska daa Xiin, waa unionist dhab ah. He sees every thing through his blue tinted glasses.

[xiinfaniin]

Blessed, I am pretty sure you are not one those whom the value of unity unfortunately alludes.

 

Here's some analysis as to why Siilaanyo did what he did, tying his politicking to not only the expected negotiations but also to the upcoming Istanbul conference where a lot of developmental $$ are stake provided certain political milestones and deliverables are met by Somali actors Siilaanyo included.

 

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Madaxweyne Siilaanyo oo markii uu Al-baabka ka Saaray Maxamed Xaashi iyo Gaboose, Gondaha soo gashaday Rayaale iyo Cawil

 

Madaxweyne Siilaanyo oo Daahir Rayaale ku qancinaya inuu noqdo Ergayga u qaabilsan wadahadalada iyo Cawil oo ku Lamaan. Kulankii Siilaanyo la yeeshay Rayaale iyo Cawil wuxuu madax jabin u yahay dareenka Gaboose iyo Maxamed Xaashi ka qabaan wadahadalada Somaliya

 

Hargeysa(Waaheen) Madaxweyne Axmed Maxamed Maxamud Siilaanyo ayaa shalay kulan gaar ah Qasriga Madaxtooyadda kula yeeshay Madaxweynihii hore ee Somaliland Daahir Rayaale Kaahin iyo Wasiirkiisii Maaliyadda Xuseen Cali Ducaale Cawil.

Kulankan oo aan xog badan laga hayn ayaa tibaaxaha ka soo duulayaa if-tiiminayaan inay ujeedadiisu ku qotontay sidii wadahadalaada ay xukuumaddu ku feegan tahay ee ay la yeelanayso Somaliya loogu qancin lahaa inay Hormood ka noqdaan, si ay uga leexdaan mawqifka ay ku adag yihiin ee ah inaan wadahadalo Somaliya lala galin sidii uu Rayaale ka dhawaajiyay markii ay shirkii Ingiriiska tageen ee ay u kaxaysteen Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin.

Wali ma cada in uu Madaxwayne Rayaalaha Xisbiga Mucaaradka ah ee UDUB ku qancay iyo inkale hase yeeshee sida ay wararku sheegayaan maadaama ay isku kaliyaysteen waxa loo bandhigay inay ahayd sidii uu u hogaamin lahaa ama uu u noqon lahaa Ergayga Somaliya u matalaya wadahadala Istanbuul.

Talaabada Madaxweyne Siilaanyo kun kaliftay wakhtigan inuu Ciyaaro Siyaasadda ah in uu Rayaale iyo Cawil u yeedho ayaa lagu macnaynayaa inay ugu wacan tahay dhawr arrimood oo ay ka mid tahay ta koowaade inuu Rayaale noqdo Siyaasiga Kaliya ee wadahadaladaasi u matali doona Gobolada Awdal iyo Salal si aanay ugaga Iman Xukuumadda Siilaanyo mucaaradad adag oo diida shirkaasi.

Sidoo kale Cawil waxa xiligan ku kalifay ayaa la hadal hayaa inay tahay in uu Madaxweyne Siilaanyo Beesha Galbeedka Burco ka waayay siyaasi ka soo bixi kara hawshaas oo uu xukuumaddiisa ka waayay nin leh ama buuxin kara Dublamaasiyada intaa leeg oo gaashaanka u daruuri kara beeshiisa.

Dhinaca kale marka laga eegana maadaama ay xubnahani yihiin Mucaarad waxa uu u tusayaa Madaxweyne Siilaanyo raýul caamka in uu fursad u siiyo oo ay saaxadda lagu hagayo Siyaasadda Qaran ka qayb qaataan si aan looga dabahadal. Sidii dhacday oo kale safarkiisii hore ee Ingiriiska oo uu fursad tan oo kale ah ku Aamusiiyay Faysal Cali Waraabe iyo Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin taasoo u sahashay in ay dadweynuhu waayaan cid hagta oo tusta fikir ka duwan ka ay Xukuumaddau wadatay ee ah ka qayb galka Shirarka Somaliya oo ay labaatankii sano ee hore dab-cas ka bixin jireen marka la soo hadal qaado.

Dhinaca kalena talaabada uu Siilaanyo ku soo xero galiyay ayay dad badani shalayba u tirjunteen inay tahay Fariin cad oo loo dirayay Eng: Maxamed Xaashi Cilmi wasiirkii Maaliyadda ee bedelay Cawil iyo Dr: Gaboose oo ah laba nin oo saaxiibo ah fikirka ay Xukuumadda Madaxweyne Siilaanyo wadatana si cad uga hor yimi.

Dadka fikirkaa qaba ee shalayba sidaas u arkay waxa ay markiiba ku xidhiidhiyeen hoos ka tuurkii Siyaasadeed ee Xukuumaddii Rayaale iyo Urur Siyaasadeedkii Qaran kuwaasoo maryo dhiig leh kala furtay iyo hadaladii ugu danbeeyay ee Maxamed Xaashi iyo gaboose oo mucaaradad toos ah ku ahaa Madaxweyne Siilaanyo Qorshihiisa iyo Lunsigii Hantida dadweynaha ee ku aadanaa Rayaale iyo Cawil wakhtigii ay xilka hayeen ee uu ka jeediyay xafladii uu Maxamed Xaashi xilka ku wareejinayay.

Is daba waydaarashada ay Maxamed Xaashi, Gaboose iyo Rayaale iyo Cawil isku weydaarteen afaafka Qasriga Madaxtooyadda ayaa muujinaya sida aanay siyaasadu saaxiibtinmo u lahayn ee ay dan joogto ah u tahay. Taasna waxa ka turjumaya sida Madaxweyne Siilaanyo iskugu bedelay Odayaasha muddo laba sano gudahood ah.

Si kasta ha ahaatee waxa laga war-sugayaa warka la isku siiyay Qasriga Madaxtooyadu sida uu u midho dhalo iyo sida uu Madaxweyne Siilaanyo mar kale Siyaasadiisa wadahadalada Somaliya ugu Isticmaalo Rayaale iyo Cawil, iyo sida ay Maxamed Xaashi iyo Gaboose iyo inta soo raacdaa u naqdin karaan.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Abtigiis;811104 wrote:

A very negative move. Nin inan layaal ah garta loo dirsado waa gar go'aan in aan laga gadhin la rabo. Silaanyo is playing party politics with this too.

I agree. Sheekada Siilaayo wado waa "nin la tuhunsanyahay, is-adkee kama dhamaado". Riyaale intuu is leeyahay "prove yourself" ayuu waqtigu dhamaanayaa. Duriyada in loo daayo ayay sheekadani ku haboonayd.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Except, this time a serious engagement with TFG is required from the admin by the very powers that compelled them to attend the 'Somalia' Conference in London.

[Jacaylbaro]

"waxa la yidhi" bay waxaasoo dhami ka dhacayaan miyaa imika ?? ,,,,

 

Waar bal suga horta ha la yidhaahdee ,,,,, sowtan la idin sii xaadhayba ,,,,

[Carafaat]

Abtigiis and LST think Somaliland politics isbased on 4.5.

[AYOUB]

Masterstroke of *political move by Somaliland's president, if true that is.

 

 

Libaax-Sankataabte;811316 wrote:

Duriyada in loo daayo ayay sheekadani ku haboonayd.

Enemies of the good republic would say that, wouldn't they?

[The Sage]

The people on this forum are sensationalists at their finest. Everyone clearly knows that unity with the failed state is out of the question. The real purpose of the negotiations is for the TFG to assist Somaliland to access formal international institutions (i.e. loans and insurance) and to create a clear/open channel between the governments should any future conflicts between them arise.

[burahadeer]

The Sage;811354 wrote:

The real purpose of the negotiations is for the TFG to assist Somaliland to access formal international institutions (i.e. loans and insurance) and to create a clear/open channel between the governments should any future conflicts between them arise.

 

 

now that statement gives thm loophole to argue about...for thm every little bit is home run:D

[LANDER]

AYOUB;811349 wrote:

Masterstroke of *political move by Somaliland's president, if true that is.

 

 

 

Enemies of the good republic would say that, wouldn't they?

lol... how does that saying go? Don't bother explaining yourself to your enemies they won't believe you. well if a two term president who happens to hail from Awdal leads the negotiations he is STILL trying to 'proove' something by refusing to relinquish Somaliland's sovereignty to a failed state mind you! But if the leader of the negotiations is of 'duriyada' than you can pull out a tribal card and claim a single tribe is holding Somaliland hostage. The anti-Somaliland crowds has been rather predictable for quite a while now haven't they? Everyday life has moved beyond the tribal microscope and yet they're constantly trying to pull us back, why is that?

[Che -Guevara]

Negotiating with Somaliland shouldn't be priority now. Finding an entity that can permanently secure Xamar should be priority.

[AYOUB]

LANDER;811443 wrote:

lol... how does that saying go? Don't bother explaining yourself to your enemies they won't believe you. well if a two term president who happens to hail from Awdal leads the negotiations he is STILL trying to 'proove' something by refusing to relinquish Somaliland's sovereignty to a failed state mind you! But if the leader of the negotiations is of 'duriyada' than you can pull out a tribal card and claim a single tribe is holding Somaliland hostage. *The anti-Somaliland crowds has been rather predictable for quite a while now haven't they?

Everyday life has moved beyond the tribal microscope and yet they're constantly trying to pull us back, why is that?

You read them like a pamphlet.

 

This "cross party" gesture by the SL president as already made an impact when you see someone like LST make a comment like that. He is one of the cool head of the enemy camp, IMO. But even the likes of him are stubborn and blind to fact when it comes to Somaliland's politics. I remember him refusing to accept when it was pointed out to him that the folks in Erigabo voted against the first Somali constitution referendum in the early 1960s. How could anyone reason with that? When Cadami was made Somaliland Defence minister he said he (Cadami) was not from Puntland related clan, but from another one. *If someone from the east of Sanaag like *Cadami's people are not Puntlanders, how does Puntland justify its claim on Sanaag according to LST?

 

Well let's hope the Museveni and Mahiga send more reasonable than these anti-SL folks to negotiate with Somaliland