b-boy Posted March 12, 2012 Carafaat;802484 wrote: It's by far the largest city of Puntland, sop the question is only valid. you clearly don't know what you're talking about! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 These guys they talking about qaado and constitution as well and they havent passed Galkacyo i think you on the same leauge...:cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 Tribal Federalism....absolute Fu***** joke... tribalism seems to be destroying the very cheerleaders of tribal federalism. chickens coming home to roost..what do you think about the rest of Somalia? acudubilah... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted March 12, 2012 The Hermet;802520 wrote: Tribal Federalism....absolute Fu***** joke... tribalism seems to be destroying the very cheerleaders of tribal federalism. chickens coming home to roost..what do you think about the rest of Somalia? acudubilah... Beesha Dhexe is a tribal entity too, also named as the "triangle towns republic" or the "the sovereign Republic of Slander" or the "Phantom Republic"....everytime you call "PL" a clan enclave, the expression the kettle calling the pot black comes to my mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 Mario B;802525 wrote: Beesha Dhexe is a tribal entity too, also named as the "triangle towns republic" or the "the sovereign Republic of Slander" or the "Phantom Republic"....everytime you call "PL" a clan enclave, the expression the kettle calling the pot black comes to my mind. ok.... congratulations...thank you for sharing. :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted March 12, 2012 The Hermet;802529 wrote: ok.... congratulations...thank you for sharing. :cool: You're wlc,...I was just pointing to your hypocrisy. I hope no offence was taken. :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 Mario B;802530 wrote: You're wlc,...I was just pointing to your hypocrisy. I hope no offence was taken. :cool: none taken bro...inshallah you join us soon, your people are our people..why dont you set the stage of anti tribalism join Somaliland as it is in your view tribalist join us make it less tribalist, we live in Sool and Sanag together seems logical based on what you said you seem to oppose tribalism whats the point of khatumo, join Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 12, 2012 Carafat hate towards the clan should not cloud his judgement. Galkacyu and I like your concern is in good hands. It's newly appointed governor is doing great work and has visited many parts of the region, including Goldogob, Bacarweyne, Bursalah, Jariban Gaacad and Godad. President Faroole has not only been to Galkacyu but signed a landmark agreement with then PM Abdirahsid Ali Known as the Galkacyu agreement which actually has led to the closer relations with the TFG. Again Galkacyu is part and parcel of the State of Puntland and the people of Galkacyu are deep supporters of the State. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted March 12, 2012 The Hermet;802560 wrote: none taken bro...inshallah you join us soon, your people are our people..why dont you set the stage of anti tribalism join Somaliland as it is in your view tribalist join us make it less tribalist IshaaAllah, Somalia Republic Hanoolato!! :cool: P.s Only a fool would save a couple towns and live the rest [ 80 percent of Somalis and 80 percent territory] to death and destruction.:mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 Mario B;802564 wrote: IshaaAllah, Somalia Republic Hanoolato!! :cool: P.s Only a fool would save a couple towns and live the rest [ 80 percent of Somalis and 80 percent territory] to death and destruction.:mad: ill take that as a tribalist no hiding behind the mascarade of false nationalism then...ok suit yourself.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted March 12, 2012 The Hermet;802566 wrote: ill take that as a tribalist no hiding behind the mascarade of false nationalism then...ok suit yourself.. We all know who has been peddling false nationalism here [sL], so when are going to call yourself a "clannist", it seem you're happy to call everyone else but yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted March 12, 2012 I am wondering why Faroole hasnt been to Galkacyo all those years. Garowe aint that big. I think its for same reason Riyaale didnt go to Lascanood betqeen 2003 and 2007, cause It wasnt safe nor part of his admin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted March 12, 2012 Carafaat;802642 wrote: I am wondering why Faroole jasnt been to Galkacyo all those years. Garowe aint that big. I think its for same reason Riyaale didnt go to Lascanood betqeen 2003 and 2007, cause It wasnt safe nor part of his admin. multiple personality boy leave politics to the big boys. don't play dumb Galkacyo is part of Puntland just like how Garowe is part of Puntland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted March 12, 2012 Dear Mr President of Puntland your announcement of AMISOM troops in Galkayo To Puntland President Cc Puntland Parliament Chairman Cc TFG President Cc TFG Prime Minister Sub: AMISOM Galkayo/Puntland November, 1st. 2011, Galkayo. “In the name of God most merciful, most gracious” Dear Mr President of Puntland your announcement of AMISOM troops in Galkayo has raised eyebrows as well as, serious questions within the Puntlanders both Diaspora and local. One viable testimony is the havoc it has created during your address of the Puntland Diaspora in London. It has also deeply touched the Rer Mudug Communities as the need for answers has reached a point whereby demonstrations were organized by the Galkayans To put matters in the right track a meeting was organized by Puntland Intellectuals Forum, Galkayo branch to ‘legitimize’ the public opinion in a an open discussion. On the 1st, November, 2011 the meeting was held in the Centre for Peace And Development (CPD ) environs having invited a good seventy members of the various social circles to give room to an intelligent debate that can represent Galkayo Community stand-point. It is usually and preferably these forums that produce a representative view. Mr. President, as you might know from your Presidential Information Desk the meeting was successful in producing a unanimous decision and a Platform for ‘No Unilateral AMISOM presence in Galkayo’. The meeting has also produced a document with solid reasons for taking such a position. 1.There are no any logical reasons for this unilateral undertaking. There were no clarifications on your part or the Cabinet for that matter. 2. The AMOISOM force presence in Somalia/ Mogadishou has a job to finish in South-Central Somalia before the required conditions (God forbid) are born in other areas of Puntland or Somalia. 3.Their presence can (and will attract) full Al Shabab commitment in Galkayo as they vowed to fight any foreign presence in the Somali soil. This is not the case now as far as we can agree. 4.Finally, but not the least or the last, this move can give rise to inter-IGAD conflict, and a deterioration of the current Somalia scene. We should not forget that Galkayo is the gateway for the security cooperation between Puntland and Ethiopia. The Meeting has put emphasis on the proper use of Puntland Forces which can tackle with the Security issue if properly funded, trained and taken advantage of. It is this view that explained the foundations for security and counter terrorism. As this document represents the view of the Galkayo Community, we would like to see your good offices, revise its position and give due consideration to the opinion of its people. This does not mean that we are confronting our Governments legal status or its deliberations, but we are rather skeptical of the grave consequences that can result from this step both in the short and long terms. The decision was also criticized as lacking legal maturity. Mr President, We cannot call your position uncalculated, but have the right to have our opinion in search of ways to have a contribution in our affairs. The lack of a gradually formed government position that considers its public opinion and has also sought the backing of the Parliament in these sensitive matters has triggered this popular uprising. It is the underlying concept of this paper that the President is expected to highlight the weight of this document and have the courage to listen to his people. His Excellency, Mr. President as the meeting has proposed we would like to see a different approach that can soothe the wounds of this community as well as the Puntlanders in general. We also urge the TFG Presidium and Prime Minister not to transfer conflict to Mudug/Puntland in its bid or mission to create ‘normal relations’ with Puntland President. In the wider context the Transitional Federal Government should be very cautious not to destabilize stable areas by creating ‘Monsters’ to fight, when in fact AMISOM cannot extend its Military presence in the Southern Regions. The Kenyan Army intervention is a live testimony of the limited resources of AMISOM? We would like to see that Puntland Parliament, in its October Session, will not miss the importance of this affair by not putting it in its agenda. We would also like to see the opinion and contributions of the wider Puntland Community in this matter as it will not be an isolated case for Galkayo, but a launch pad for an affair that might bring new disasters. Welcome to your destiny. It would be more opportune to create a website for a mature discussion. Do not hate someone for his view, worse do not insult your people; try to correct if you are a concerned Puntlander. Zakaria A Nur Zakaria.nur@diplomats.com PIF, Galkayo (Organizers) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites