b-boy Posted March 11, 2012 'Liibaan';802302 wrote: LAAS CAANOOD . Where are the men?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted March 11, 2012 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Madaxweyne Shariif "Soo Dhoweynta Iyo Aqoonsiga Khaatumo State Of Somalia Waxaan u Arkeynay Howl Gacanta Soomaaliyeed Ku Jirta" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uchi Posted March 11, 2012 ^ I was enjoying the conversation, why did you have to ruin it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted March 11, 2012 RADIO Khaatumo State of Somalia Madaxweyne KuXigeenka Colonel Maxamed Yuusuf Jaamac {Indhasheel}, oo Ka Jawaabay Aflagaadadii Iyo Caydii Warlord Faroole Kana Hadlay Arimo Badan,{Dhagayso}. Madaxweyne KuXigeenka Maamulka Khaatumo State Col. Maxamed Yuusuf Jaamac{ Indhasheel }, ayaa ka hadlay qodobo badan, sida waraaqda Bugta ah iyo weliba Hadalkii Faroole. Halkan Ka Dhageyso: http://radiokhaatumo.com/radio-khaatumo-state-of-somalia-wararka-fiidnimo/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted March 12, 2012 Eng Cadde kuso dhowoow, half of the girls in laascaanod are my immediate cousins. I came from one large a*ss family and they are all gorgeous ee isa soo diyaari haye dheh lol engineerna waa tahay ban filaya khalaas waxba ma wayasid . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 12, 2012 uchi;802443 wrote: ^ I was enjoying the conversation, why did you have to ruin it? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 12, 2012 This is how Prof. Weinstein put it back in 2007. The social interests at the root of the conflict are rendered more acute by the fact that both Somaliland and Puntland have evolved institutionally beyond the rest of post-independence Somalia and have been able to provide a degree of security to their populations absent in post-independence Somalia's central and southern regions. They both have much to lose from serious armed conflict, but they also have contradictory vital interests --Somaliland is determined to "close the borders" and Puntland's political class fears that it will be discredited if it gives up the disputed regions. Although it is far from certain that Hargeisa will be able to hold on to Sool, it has not faced international opposition to its takeover of the region, and Puntland has yet to mount a counter-offensive. For the moment, Hargeisa has placed Garowe at a disadvantage, but the former ( "SL" ) has been plunged into the maelstrom of clan fragmentation that is familiar in south and central Somalia If Hargeisa succeeds in holding on to its gains, it still faces the problem of dealing with the Makhir state in Sanaag, which has pledged to join a united Somalia; PINR has found no evidence of unrest in Sanaag that would provide Hargeisa with an opening there. Indeed, Sanaag offers a possible model for Sool, where an autonomy movement might form. . More importantly, Hargeisa faces the chronic problem of isolation. International and regional actors continue to back the T.F.G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 12, 2012 Given the rise of armed conflicts and President Shariif's endorsement of Khaatumo, the two clan-based entities are now left with no option but to welcome the new state and to refrain from current policies that fuel more armed conflict and insecurity. Accusing the TFG of destabilization or taking sides is a desperate attempt to reverse the gains made by Khatumo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 NASSIR;802617 wrote: Given the rise of armed conflicts and President Shariif's endorsement of Khaatumo, the two clan-based entities are now left with no option but to welcome the new state and to refrain from current policies that fuel more armed conflict and insecurity. Accusing the TFG of destabilization or taking sides is a desperate attempt to reverse the gains made by Khatumo. read back what you wrote? you cant even visit Erigavo the city you claiming to be from...yet you talk about Mahkir and khatumo saxib you feeling alright...?? Seriously...?? I think Something might be in the water...I say we report this to the minister of water and sanitation..!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted March 12, 2012 I dont know how long you been in exile for but, no one in sanag has ever heard about Mahkir..?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 12, 2012 Ciyaalka xaafada maad iska hooyataan. Meeshaan sumcadeeda waad baa'ibiseen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted March 13, 2012 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> VIDEO:Madaxweyne Karaash: "Warlord Faroole Waa uu Iska Butaacaa, Aflagaadadiisa Wax Kasoo QaadMalaha" Lasanod Online. Monday, March 12, 2012 Taleex,(lasanod Online)- Waxaa maanta magalada Taleex shir jaraaid ku qabtay maamulka khaatumo state Of somalia, waxaana ka hadlay.. madaxwaynaha khaatumo Axmed Karaash oo sheegay hadalada kasoo yeedhay faroole ay tahay aqoondaro kahaysa Beesha Khaatumo/SSC waxaaana filayaa in Khaatumo/SSC aanu wax ka aqoon Faroole, Ayuu yiri Karaash. Waxa kale uu ka hadlay madaxwaynuhu dadka laga qaaday magaalada laascaanood ee ay ku jiraan haweenka umusha ah ee caanuhu ka daayaan iyo macalimiinta, ardayada, ciyaalka kubada cagta ee mandheera lageeyay. waxaanu leenahay soo daaya shacabaka aan idin doonayn ayuu yiri Karaash.. Waxaa isna goobtaas ka hadlay oo soo dhoweeyey Madaxweynaha Afhayeenka maamulka Khaatumo Cumar Jaamac Salebaan oo ka warbxiyey ujeedada loo qabtay shirka Jaraa'id. shirkan ayaa waxa uu ku soo beegmayaa hadal dhawaan ka sooyeedhay faroole oo aan miisaanayn, hadalkaas oo aad loola yaabay, waxa uu ku hadlay iyo aqoondara haysata faroole oo isagu ismooday madaxweyanha Dawlada Soomaaliya. tasoo aan weli wax jawaab ha laga hayn dalwladda Shiikh Shariif. _________________________________________ Here is what Warlord Faroole said; Hadaladii Aflagaadada ahaa ee Faroole." Dhawr Gabdhood, Haween Iyo Caruur Ka Yimid Dabada Dalka Wadamada Europe/America. Taleex Isugu Tegay Maamul Goboleed Ma Dhisi Karaan" Halkan Ka Dhageyso: http://www.midnimossc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dhawr-gabdhood-iyo-haween-iyo-caruuro21.m4a Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liibaan Posted March 13, 2012 Somalia: Khaatumo State and TFG-Somaliland Talks By Liban Ahmad ( The writer is from Bari/ Puntland ) libahm@gmail.com The VOA Somali Service reported that the office of the Somali prime minster has reversed the Transitional Federal Governmen’s (TFG) decision to recognise Khaatumo State. Upon returning to Mogadishu yesterday the prime minister, Dr Abdiweli Ali, declined to comment on the recognition or non-recognition of Khaatumo State of Somalia formed nearly two months ago after politicians and traditional leaders and convened in the Taalex district. The silence of the prime minister is as damaging to his political and academic reputation as the role he allegedly has in reversing the decision after being pressured byPuntland president to challenge the Somali president’s decision to recognise Khaatumo State. Are people who support Khaatumo right to lose faith in Puntland? The answer to this question lies in the political developments since the formation of Puntland in August 1998. In 2004 Somaliland and Puntlandforces clashed near Adhicaddeeye. After a year, the two administrationsexchanged prisoners of war. Shortly after the prisoner exchangePuntland forces at Adhicaddeeye were evacuated to southern Somalia to beef up the security detail of former Transitional Federal Government president Abdullahi YusufAhmed without making an agreement with Somaliland not to instruct its forces and allied militias to advance to Las Anod. As a Wikileaks cable dated 24/1/2004, nearly two months after Adhicaddeeye clash, shows the TFG president said he “ used to be President of Puntland, now I am Presidentof Federal Republic of Somalia and my duties are to observe the laws.” President Ahmed said“the conflict will only be solved by dialogue.” That attitude toconflict resolution has shaped Puntland policies although the dispute with Somaliland has been unresolved. To many people who supportedPuntland, such a policy meant betrayal, a failure to honour kinship ties and the right to be protected against organised clan aggression. Contrast that with Somaliland president whose forces attacked unionist towns such as Buuhodle or authorising his militias in Las Anod to open fire on unionists. Enter the talks the Somalia’s TFG president proposed to have with Somaliland administration. Who is entitled to talk on behalf of the unionists who support Khaatumo state of Somalia? Is it Puntland or Somaliland? In speech on the finalisation of Puntland Constitution , president Abdirahman Farole of Puntland welcomed the TFG’s call for talks with Somaliland but insisted on the role of Puntland in the talks as “ Somaliland has attacked Puntland territories .” President Farole alluded to the Garowe Principles to argue that the TFG cannot recognise a new administration as ” there are rules governing recognition of new regional administrations.” President Farole has no legal or moral right to render the outcome of Taleh conference null and void. Unlike the regional administrations formed outside Somalia by the Diaspora the Taleh conference was held in Somalia and was attended by traditional leaders, politicians and civil society members to bring to an end the status of the regions as “ disputed lands”.President Farole inherited the territorial dispute with Somaliland but he opted for a policy of pinning the blame for the fall of Las Anod in 2007 on some politicians ( from Las Anod ) associated with his predecessor. How can a president who does not understand his duty to protect people who had a role in forming Puntland now claim to be the sole representative of *********** clan in Somalia’s political meetings? Somaliland claims it is the legitimate authority in what was known as British Somaliland Protectorate . Its argument is based the border between the ex-Protectorate and Ex- Italian Somaliland. After July 2010 when Ahmed Mohamed Silaanyo was elected Somaliland president conflicts between Somaliland forces and unionist forces increased . Another attack on Buhhodle town this year by Somalilad forces was denounced by Somalilad Minister for Foreign Affairs Mohamed Abdullahi Omar in remarks for the Voice of America Somali Service stringer in Hargeisa. In an interview with Somalia Report website, Mr Omar Omar said that his government would negotiate with Khaatumo state leaders and supporters. “In fact,people in that area are part of our government, but there has been a misunderstandingwhich we will resolve as soon as possible. We will negotiate with people in that area , whether they are youth or elders, or officials who want to work towards peace in this region,” Omar told Somalia Report. It is not only Khaatumo State leaders and supporters who should work towards peace. Somaliland administration leaders and supporters have an obligation to work towards peace and restore trust and refrain from unethical use of concepts such as sovereignty which is not applicable to Somaliland administration. Somaliland administration has turned what was a minor clash between sub-clans into major clans and deployed in shared commons forces from different ***** sub-clans although Buuhoodle traditional elders, out of deference to Somali notions of impartiality, allowed the third party mediators to belong to president Siilaanyo’s clan family. The influential traditional leader Boqor Cismaan Buurmadow who happens to hail from Burco has criticised Somaliland government for war campaigns and welcomed the formation of Khaatumo State. “ Now that the political decision of the Dhulbhnate clan lies with elected leaders, talks should be held with Khaatumo leaders, “ he told Daahir Alasow of Waaga Cusub. What Boqor Cismaan wants to see is one political platform for northern people in the ex-British Somaliland, an idea that leaders of the two major, pre-independence political parties of northern Somalia ( Somali National League and United Somali Party ) failed to articulate to face one major party in the South ( Somali Youth League ) after the union of the two provinces created the Republic of Somalia on July 1 1960 . Of all challenges Khaatumo State and its supporters face Puntland administration ‘s relentless efforts to belittle and make Khaatumo still-born are hard to understand. Granted that Puntland has given the some ***** sub-clans a political platform to influence Somali politics since 2004 when the founding president of Puntland was elected a president. Two of TFG’s prime ministers hail from Puntland as well but Puntland political project has not delivered the goods for people in Sool, Cayn and parts of Sanaag ( i.e. *********** sub-clan). If the report about the the Somali prime minister’s intervention to try to reverse the Transitional Federal Government’s decision to recognise Khaatumo as a state is true, the prime minister will come across as someone looking after the interests of his sub-sub clan even if that amounts to trampling the democratic rights other sub-clans underfoot. His silence on this matter is equally damaging. Khaatumo State was ratified by all traditional leaders of *********** . In his memoir the former TFG president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed recounts a story about a meeting between Ahmed Suleiman Abdalla, former Somali National Security chief and son-in law of president Siyad Barre, and the Sacad sub-clan in Galka’ayo. “ You have a right to kill and rob the Cumar Maxamuud [sub-clan ] against the revolution ” Ahmed Suleiman Abdalla allegedly told the Sacad traditional leaders, to which a a prominent Sacad traditional leader responded. “ We have no a right to kill and rob them of their wealth”). Ahmed Suleiman Abdalla is not on the record for ever speaking out against the excesses or human rights violations of the military regime. And that is what makes the story plausible . Prime Minister Abdiweli Ali will be committing a grave political misjudgement if he keeps silent on Khaatumo State, a popular expression seen by many as undercutting both Puntland’s polical influence and Somaliland’s search for secession. Liban Ahmad ( The writer is from Bari/ Puntland ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites