OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 Che -Guevara;800938 wrote: the Tigrays are not interested in winning hearts and minds of any Somali. The only Somali they want is dead Somali. Yep, that about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukulaalow Posted March 9, 2012 .....their struggle will continue. And what kind of Burger did you have for lunch today saaxiib. Masaakiintan doonaysa inay ka baxaan cudurka, jahliga iyo horumar la'aanta yaan la lugoynin. This region is the most backward because of instability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 9, 2012 OdaySomali;801074 wrote: ****** Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted March 9, 2012 Mukulaalow;801100 wrote: And what kind of Burger did you have for lunch today saaxiib. Masaakiintan doonaysa inay ka baxaan cudurka, jahliga iyo horumar la'aanta yaan la lugoynin. This region is the most backward because of instability. I am not a burger eating kinda guy, I eat healthy food! Stability iyo horumarka region-kaas wuxuu ku iman gor gortan run ku dhisan inuu dhaco. Udhaxeeya ONLF iyo dowladda dhexe. Ileyl in loo heeso iyo waxa xaqqa runta u leedahay laguugu sasabo jid meel laga dhisay iyo school ku iman mayso. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukulaalow Posted March 9, 2012 Stability iyo horumarka region-kaas wuxuu ku iman gor gortan run ku dhisan inuu dhaco. Udhaxeeya ONLF iyo dowladda dhexe. Ileyl in loo heeso iyo waxa xaqqa runta u leedahay laguugu sasabo jid meel laga dhisay iyo school ku iman mayso. Dadku waxay wax iska dhicin karaan markay heystaan nolosha asaasiga ah, dad cudur iyo gaajo dilootay goormay halgamaan, qofku wuxuu ka fakarayaa wuxuu ilmihiisa siin lahaa iyo siduu ku badbaadin lahaa reerkiisa, mida kale ee aanan ilaa iyo hadda fahmin waa Somalida Kenya wax badan ma dhaamaan somalida kunool Somaligalbeed hadana waxaan u ogol nahay inay systemka Kenya kamid noqdaan oo ay xuquuqdooda ku raadsadaan si sharci ah, laakiin markay noqoto kililka haddii aad soo hadal qaado war nabad aynu xuquudeena ku raadsano waa lagu caayayaa oo waxaa lagu leeyahay iley baa laaluush siiyay iyo waxaan loo joogin. Let these people start living. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince Posted March 9, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;800748 wrote: I don't think these people represent the people of the region they are just people paid by iley and the tplf . As for the gathering an epic fail look how empty it is The irony! Loool If these people don't represent the people of the region, then why do you think Abdi Xabsaade, Maxamed Baashe and the 5 other guys in Hergeisa that hail from Khaatumo State represent the people of Khaatumo State? Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted March 9, 2012 Waa yaab.....tani waxay ku tusaysaa in marka horeba taageerada qabiilka iyo caadifadda ku dhisanba aysan meel jirin.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faafan Posted March 9, 2012 I see a depressed atmosphere of Ethiopian Embassy staff and "selected invitational delegates" in that room lacking the grass-roots youth inspired campaign of Silent Cry. These two or three petty kids who have broken ranks with the rest of the Silent Cry youth are accused of squandering much of the money the campaign raised to help the fleeing victims of the conflict, upon been asked questions as to where this money has gone by there colleagues and community members there scheme quickly crumbled.Having lost the trust and goodwill of the communities that campaigned heavily across many cities, an invitation from Ilay arrived and they quickly jumped on the so-called "peace-caravan" which is notorious for enlisting many other figures with promises of cash and jobs as TPLF/Kilil propagandist. I have spoken to people in Jigjiga, they were heavily guarded by the Ethiopian Military and associated Militia as they toured the region in-order to create a counter to the original Silent Cry production as requested by there TPLF puppet masters(desperate regime).Its quite ironic they want people to believe this selective, one-sided depiction of the region when the Government continues to restrict Independent observers from accessing the region to give there assessments. The conflict in this region has become a sophisticated business network from the Military who receive kickbacks for backing and endorsing Kilil leaders, to the singers and individuals who honey-moon in Jigjiga benefiting from this revenue stream which is why many in this category feel threatened by the concept of peace-talks between the TPLF and ONLF.The TPLF elite will soon realize that the Bank is broke yet the ONLF is still as potent. The "youth" are not represented by these callous individuals which is why they have continued there Silent Cry Campaign, now under the OYSU banner and the auspices of the community in an attempt to tame the independent nature of the campaign which gave access to these rogue elements in the first place to squander the much needed proceeds. They recently held Part 2 of Silent Cry in Sweden and Minnesota. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 10, 2012 I have spoken to people in Jigjiga, they were heavily guarded by the Ethiopian Military and associated Militia as they toured the region in-order to create a counter to the original Silent Cry production as requested by there TPLF puppet masters(desperate regime).Its quite ironic they want people to believe this selective, one-sided depiction of the region when the Government continues to restrict Independent observers from accessing the region to give there assessments. Well said Faafan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalina Posted March 10, 2012 Mukulaalow;801169 wrote: Dadku waxay wax iska dhicin karaan markay heystaan nolosha asaasiga ah, dad cudur iyo gaajo dilootay goormay halgamaan, qofku wuxuu ka fakarayaa wuxuu ilmihiisa siin lahaa iyo siduu ku badbaadin lahaa reerkiisa, mida kale ee aanan ilaa iyo hadda fahmin waa Somalida Kenya wax badan ma dhaamaan somalida kunool Somaligalbeed hadana waxaan u ogol nahay inay systemka Kenya kamid noqdaan oo ay xuquuqdooda ku raadsadaan si sharci ah, laakiin markay noqoto kililka haddii aad soo hadal qaado war nabad aynu xuquudeena ku raadsano waa lagu caayayaa oo waxaa lagu leeyahay iley baa laaluush siiyay iyo waxaan loo joogin. Let these people start living. Waxa meesha ku baaba'ayo waa caruurteeni, taasna maba la arkayo. Haddaadan is abaabulin oo aadan ka shaqeyn horumarka deeganadaada, yaa kuu maqan oo aad sugeysaa? Somalida degan dhulka K5 ayagaa cadaw isu ah, ayaga is dila. Wixii ka dhacey Raas waa la wada arkey, marka maxaa Ethiopia la iskaga celiyaa? dad isku duuban meesha maba joogaan? ayagaaba isku maqan. Caqli xumada Soomaalida haysato meel walba ay joogaan, waa arrin aad looga naxo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukulaalow Posted March 10, 2012 Waxa meesha ku baaba'ayo waa caruurteeni, taasna maba la arkayo. Haddaadan is abaabulin oo aadan ka shaqeyn horumarka deeganadaada, yaa kuu maqan oo aad sugeysaa? Somalida degan dhulka K5 ayagaa cadaw isu ah, ayaga is dila. Wixii ka dhacey Raas waa la wada arkey, marka maxaa Ethiopia la iskaga celiyaa? dad isku duuban meesha maba joogaan? ayagaaba isku maqan. Caqli xumada Soomaalida haysato meel walba ay joogaan, waa arrin aad looga naxo. Well said Somalina, Ethiopia has blinded us to see our bad deeds to each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted March 10, 2012 Faafan, I couldn't have said it better! The struggle will not stop just because of Abdi Shukri and his friend fell off the the boat. Hangaraarac lug uma dhutiyo. I see some clueless fellas claiming that surrendering is a must. These people probably don't understand the importance of freedom. The people of O'gaden will die with dignity instead of living with humility. They have made that decision long time ago and aint no one gonna stop them from reaching that goal. Some think that Xabashis are too strong to be fought against? Oh please! Ethiopia is non but the poorest country on earth. Believe it or not, they can and will be defeated! O'gadenia shall be free! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted March 10, 2012 Abu-Salman;801045 wrote: In short, the country function as a giant marxist concentration camp where people are kept destitute on purpose and food aid, fertilizers etc are used as political control weapons, particularly against other ethnic groups (who heavily subsidise Mekele and its hinterland).* One can not be against colonialism or appartheid yet accept it's worst form ever because, after all, "the main fighting group is largely from a rival clan" ; a chauvinistic and racist criminal group is no less worse for being dark skinned (it's actually much worse than any similar group and makes no secret of holding Somalis in the lowest inferior stratum as Muslim nomads)... Well, unless your comments are general observations, these chaps are not from a "rival clan". Maybe you know better. If you are correct about the rivalry then Meles' theory "only a minor *sub-clan is resisting" is true after-all. Otherwise I'm still waiting for satisfactory answer as to why they would do an 180 degrees u-turn on highlighting abuses they used to highlight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted March 10, 2012 ^^ Ayoub, I don't think they are different than Waayaha Cusub group, these folks also wey is dhiibeen, yes, meesha lacag baa shaqeysa, aawey waayaha cusub heestii caanka aheyd oo itoobiyoo dhan laga mamnuucey, Guumeysiga Itoobiya ay qaadeysey Shiina Akhyaar naagtiisa Fallis(waa dhaw bey isku qabteen labadan), xataa Kenya waa laga nacey the Waayaha Cusub, ma imaadaan inta badan and if they are in hiding .... Now recently, Waayaha Cusub TVga itoobiyaa si xun looga dhargey news ahaan intii loo soo qaatey aa la dhahey dhallinyaradii aflagaadeyn jirtey jirtey waddanka itoobiya oo isa soo dhiibey, kadibna heesa iyo xaflado ayey qabteen, ceeb baa ka raacdey. Silent Cry, I never watched or had any interest with those groups, cuz I didn't know their true intentions, now that is a surprise iney ayukana is dhiibeen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu-Salman Posted March 10, 2012 Actually, half of countries such as France or Vietnam actively cooperated with their ennemies or colonisers; thus, whether some youth switch over or not is pure irrelevance. Now, the supreme irony when it comes to Ethiopia is that you have more and more international medias, groups or experts interested by the massive scale of rights violation up there while some Somalis dismiss it because of a "rival clan" or a "State" project. I was just meeting perchance Phil Rees who came across as quite familiar with the Oga-den issue and we had even the BBC recently joins Aljazeera and other courageous professionals (eg, the arrested Swedishs) in covering atrocities and deliberate starvation in prime time (not to mention the New York time prominent reportage). Of course, we are a long way from the unity displayed by Eritreans even across religious lines as well as their diligent patriotism, with professionals offering free lessons, masses building roads etc; however, this colonial anachronism too needs to build awareness (firstly among Somalis who must know the region and its history in detail). That will hopefully dilute the mistrust which is the prime obstacle as highlighted to me by this experienced French army officer, a Somali acquaintance well versed into regional affairs and well connected (a divisiveness which even limits peaceful lobbying)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites