AYOUB Posted March 9, 2012 ^ Maybe so, but the Ethio flag-waving is a growing phenomenon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted March 9, 2012 It is!Money can make not only wave flags but wiggle their asses. There is no change of heart as such. Ayoub, horta adiguna welcome back. dee markaan meesha noo cidleeysay ee Dr. Osman oo miidhan nagu soo dayseen baan retirement iska qaadanay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 9, 2012 ONLF can be useless in framing its message. Its leadership need to be revamp or completely replaced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted March 9, 2012 Fully agree Che. Hawshaasi way socotaa sidaad la socotidba. Dadaal nagu mayara, hoos iyo korba. The good thing is the Tigres are really terrible adminstrators that even with all the failures of ONLF, they really can't win hearts and minds. So, time is on our side. But not for long. Ngonge'xii xumaana meel walba wixii lagu qoro ee uu ku arko ayuu it is Abtigiis meelahaa la taagan yahay. Is this his way of avenging my incessant attacks against Somaliland in the last couple of months? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 9, 2012 A&T....Having met and talked boys that are former Liyu police members, the Tigrays are not interested in winning hearts and minds of any Somali. The only Somali they want is dead Somali. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abu-Salman Posted March 9, 2012 Though I'm not an OG, the ONLF & co struggle is the only one I thoroughly admire of all Somali obssesions; the easy argument of "let them accept peace" would be more credible if we had a system that remotely accepted basic representation and rights. You wonder if most of the critics had even seriously read on Ethopian history, are acquainted with the relevant basics or even follow routine reports by rights advocates; what we have is a ruthless marxist minority regime that allow not even basic freedom to trade for the masses, appoint regional governors and interfere in local affairs through their security forces and has been described by groups such as MSF as deliberately creating the world's worst humanitarian crisis. In short, the country function as a giant marxist concentration camp where people are kept destitute on purpose and food aid, fertilizers etc are used as political control weapons, particularly against other ethnic groups (who heavily subsidise Mekele and its hinterland). One can not be against colonialism or appartheid yet accept it's worst form ever because, after all, "the main fighting group is largely from a rival clan"; a chauvinistic and racist criminal group is no less worse for being dark skinned (it's actually much worse than any similar group and makes no secret of holding Somalis in the lowest inferior stratum as Muslim nomads)... PS: the military side of the debate changes nothing fundamentally as rebel groups are still largely able to obstruct large scale migrations or resources exploitations and hold a bargaining as well as medias PR power that prevents total acculturation (many Somalis are already in the process of assimilation, losing their langage and culture). Are people going to change their views anyway if Somalia proper start exporting oil and allow the ONLF a free pass to link with their allies abroad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 9, 2012 Good stuff, I hope they wake up and kiss Iley's feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 Wixii xabashi raaca NACADAL AYAA KORTAY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 Somalia;801048 wrote: Good stuff, I hope they wake up and kiss Iley's feet. ****** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukulaalow Posted March 9, 2012 Abtigiis Haddana waa taas teedii oo Ina Iley baa lacag siiyey .. PROOF Please, a brawn envlope, a fat cheque, or an account intercepted would help. Mise waa iska sheeko Soomaali. I met these boys in 2009 and they were genuenly worried for the welfer of their people, and I still believe that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 The Hermet;800709 wrote: I dont blame them...do you want development or ONLF? simple choice.. :cool: ******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;800748 wrote: I don't think these people represent the people of the region they are just people paid by iley and the tplf . As for the gathering an epic fail look how empty it is Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 9, 2012 Abu-Salman;801045 wrote: Though I'm not an OG, the ONLF & co struggle is the only one I thoroughly admire of all Somali obssesions; the easy argument of "let them accept peace" would be more credible if we had a system that remotely accepted basic representation and rights. You wonder if most of the critics had even seriously read on Ethopian history, are acquainted with the relevant basics or even follow routine reports by rights advocates; what we have is a ruthless marxist minority regime that allow not even basic freedom to trade for the masses, appoint regional governors and interfere in local affairs through their security forces and has been described by groups such as MSF as deliberately creating the world's worst humanitarian crisis. In short, the country function as a giant marxist concentration camp where people are kept destitute on purpose and food aid, fertilizers etc are used as political control weapons, particularly against other ethnic groups (who heavily subsidise Mekele and its hinterland). One can not be against colonialism or appartheid yet accept it's worst form ever because, after all, "the main fighting group is largely from a rival clan" ; a chauvinistic and racist criminal group is no less worse for being dark skinned (it's actually much worse than any similar group and makes no secret of holding Somalis in the lowest inferior stratum as Muslim nomads)... PS: the military side of the debate changes nothing fundamentally as rebel groups are still largely able to obstruct large scale migrations or resources exploitations and hold a bargaining as well as medias PR power that prevents total acculturation (many Somalis are already in the process of assimilation, losing their langage and culture). Are people going to change their views anyway if Somalia proper start exporting oil and allow the ONLF a free pass to link with their allies abroad? Couldn't say any better! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted March 9, 2012 Dhalinyartan u carartay Ina Iley maxay ka badalaysaa reality dhulka ka jira. Oppression-kii iyo dilku soo sidii u soconmayo. Illaa ay political settlement lala galo ONLF xaqiiqda dhabta ah ee ka taagan Og-dia waxba kama badal mayaan. Regardless of how many 1000s of these men defect or sing for Iley, the oppression of the OG people and their struggle will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted March 9, 2012 Well said Abu-Salman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites