LANDER Posted March 2, 2012 General Duke;797666 wrote: Its like having George Washington denouncing the U.S. and then Historians saying, oh well he was only the first President and not the founder. Its clear many secessionist here don's even know what they are talking about. Tuur and Egaal AUN, even fought a sub clan wars which destroyed whole towns and left thousands dead. Yet we are all told to forget this part of the glorious history of the SNM clan claims.. George Washington never recanted on the continental secession from the British Empire. However, Benedict Arnold one of the best if not the absolute best general and strategist the Americans had during their war of indepedence did try to bring the Americans back into the hands of the British. He was not successful because the American population was determined and History is full of such events. Tur and Egal did not "fight", Tur stepped down at the request of tribal elders who decided an SNM leader (being the tribal organization it was) was not the best way forward for reconciliation and peace but a civilian leader would be most suitable, short lived tribal battles broke out and 'thousands upon thousands' did NOT perish unlike during the Siad barre era. If you are a cheap propagandist you should stick with what you know and not speak so loosely, its sad when I see tribalist who actually wish other people had slaughtered each other in the thousands in the hopes of somehow saying " See! your not so different from the rest!". Sorry to burst your bubble bud we didn't slaughter each other like you wish we had (in Somaliland). Abdirahman Tur (Ilaahey ha u naxaristee) was a hero even if he had different opinions from the majority of the population, he is respected and remembered as such. Not for wanting a "confederacy or union with Somalia" but for all the real deeds he did for his people prior to politics that allow those people to survive and live freely today. He's no Benedict Arnold he did not try to hand over the SNM to Siad Barre, yet even Arnold is remembered fondly at times for what he meant, sacrificed and did for the american war of independence. So it should be no surprise to you that a hero who saved his people from eradication and who's only public sin is to have gotten involved in politics and have an opinion contrary to that of the majority should still be celebrated as a hero and not a traitor. P.S. Rest your tribal mind, I do not hail from Tur's tribe should you feel the need to associate me with a bias towards the man Ilaahey ha u naxaristee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted March 2, 2012 He was big time misinformed about everyone's qabiil ..... I like it that way though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 2, 2012 Why don't you guys address why he was for a Federal Republic of Somalia instead of saying he disagreed with the public, we KNOW he did for God's sake, but WHY? @JB, no one is misinformed, no one divides the secessionist clan's lafo, it isn't that important. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted March 3, 2012 6. The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations. Jacaylbaro;797693 wrote: Yeah, was not relevant ,,, but this is what Shariifka, Faroole and all the warlords signed: Yes The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland . I recognize too. what is deal with the word recognize? it is nothing here you must be smarter than this. they want support the dialog in the past you was not talking about dialog. In other words they make clear, there will not be any recognition from INT community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted March 3, 2012 The best choice for the secessionist lot is to stay with the union. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted March 3, 2012 Taleexi;798008 wrote: The best choice for the secessionist lot is to stay with the union. You don't have a union, there isn't a union, the world doesn't a see a union, its a facade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom Posted March 3, 2012 Duke and the rest have there undes in bunch lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites