Somalia Posted March 2, 2012 Under a federal system. How do you guys feel about that? Mr. Abdirahman Tuur renounced the secessionist agenda in 1994 and instead publicly supported the return to Somalia under a system of federation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 2, 2012 The founder of Somaliland ended up working for General Aydeed. Egaal worked for Barre, so did Siilanyu and the most remarkable man was Riiyaale, who's last job was that of an NSS Spy... So much for the secessionist wet dreams..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted March 2, 2012 ^^ It's a "wet dream" indeed. Funny how we get to enjoy the dream and you're only left with the "wettness". Somalia, it's ancient history, adeer. How do you feel about Xaaji X singing the Somali national anthem? I have it on good authority (as in: waxa la yedhi) that tears used to well up in his eyes as he puffed up his chest and sang it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 2, 2012 It's possible, he is from one of the more advanced habro. However, I believe it is proper to bring this up due to the opposition by some to a federal system when we had the founder, the President of the Republic of Somaliland, the first one to take the oath supporting the idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 2, 2012 Tuur AUN believed in a (Somaliland and Somalia) confederation but it didn't matter in 1994 he was no longer the president of SL Abdiraxmaan tuur was SL first leader not the founder the was the SNM chairman from 1989 till 1991 and the Guurti selected him as the leader The foundation of SL in 1991 when it regained its independence once again was the creation of the people of Somaliland and also the guurti elders of the SNM played a huge role sending delegations as far as eastern sool and western awdal to get all the Communities of Somaliland under one political grouping as it happened in burco 1991.Remember Somaliland had its very own constitution in 1960 political parties history political leaders and freedom fighters and structure of governance in 1991 they merely continued where they stopped in 1960. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 2, 2012 NGOONGE, adeer, Somalia is the only reality, we all have our "lands" within it. Just like the old Planning Minister for Siyad Barre Siilanyu found out last week in London. There is only one Somalia. Your whole project has been rattled and Mogadishu is not even fully functioning yet.. As for XX, he can sing a Maryan Mursal track for all I care, the reality is Mr.Abdirahman Tuur the founder of Somaliland did not believe in it, how can I take the rest of you seriously? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 2, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;797662 wrote: Tuur AUN believed in a (Somaliland and Somalia) confederation but it didn't matter in 1994 he was no longer the president of SL Abdiraxmaan tuur was SL first leader not the founder t. Its like having George Washington denouncing the U.S. and then Historians saying, oh well he was only the first President and not the founder. Its clear many secessionist here don's even know what they are talking about. Tuur and Egaal AUN, even fought a sub clan wars which destroyed whole towns and left thousands dead. Yet we are all told to forget this part of the glorious history of the SNM clan claims.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted March 2, 2012 ^^ Duke, be a pioneer adeer and don't limit yourself like your compatriots. There is a new reality in town. The London conference confirmed it and told your lot that you will have to sit with Somaliland to clarify our future relationship. The stories of the past and stubborn arguments have no place here any more. You want one Somalia? Beg, adeer, beg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted March 2, 2012 Are we digging the graves now ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 2, 2012 lool. NGOONGE, adeer the title of the London conference on SOMALIA was a success indeed... The only person who spoke was President Sharif Ahmed of Somalia. Even the press conference after was held between the PM of Britain and of Somalia. Like Caliin and Faroole, Siilanyu was kept quite and over all was a good boy. Now every other day he repeats that he will hold talks with the TFG. Adeer there is a new game its called Somalia, the London conference was on Somalia, the Istanbul one will also be on Somalia. You are on the sidelines as usual... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 2, 2012 Jacaylbaro;797678 wrote: Are we digging the graves now ?? No we are digging the recent archives. Again, NGOONGE did we witness two different London conferences, cause the one in the real world Somaliland was not relevant.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted March 2, 2012 ^^ Agree. Somaliland was not relevent that they only mentioned it in one line of the final communique. but, OH, what a line it was! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted March 2, 2012 cause the one in the real world Somaliland was not relevant.. Yeah, was not relevant ,,, but this is what Shariifka, Faroole and all the warlords signed: 6. The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted March 2, 2012 Xaaji Xunjuf;797662 wrote: Tuur AUN believed in a (Somaliland and Somalia) confederation but it didn't matter in 1994 he was no longer the president of SL Abdiraxmaan tuur was SL first leader not the founder the was the SNM chairman from 1989 till 1991 and the Guurti selected him as the leader The foundation of SL in 1991 when it regained its independence once again was the creation of the people of Somaliland and also the guurti elders of the SNM played a huge role sending delegations as far as eastern sool and western awdal to get all the Communities of Somaliland under one political grouping as it happened in burco 1991.Remember Somaliland had its very own constitution in 1960 political parties history political leaders and freedom fighters and structure of governance in 1991 they merely continued where they stopped in 1960. But his idea echoes that of the great Faroole, that we must unite under a federal system, that is what a person takes from this. I am just sad I never brought this up earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted March 2, 2012 NGONGE;797659 wrote: ^^ It's a "wet dream" indeed. Funny how we get to enjoy the dream and you're only left with the "wettness". Somalia, it's ancient history, adeer. How do you feel about Xaaji X singing the Somali national anthem? I have it on good authority (as in: waxa la yedhi) that tears used to well up in his eyes as he puffed up his chest and sang it. I was witness walee. But how do you know? Are you Mi5 of Mi6? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
