Calling a Spade a Spade

[Saalax]

http://somalilandpress.com/calling-a-spade-a-spade-26746

[burahadeer]

great article..everything he said soooo true.

[Timur]

These khat-addicted animals are sick. An entire 10,000-word essay dedicated to Faroole's sub-clan. Subhanallah.

[kingofkings]

Timur;796958 wrote:

These khat-addicted animals are sick. An entire 10,000-word essay dedicated to Faroole's sub-clan. Subhanallah.

[The Hermet]

^^^^ dum* and dumb*r :cool:

 

haha..

[The Hermet]

The Wailers‟ arguments against Somaliland have all the while been presented along clannish lines. They have acquired and perfected a self-defeating habit of labeling Somaliland with all sorts of tribal tribulations. They are fond of asserting, with unabated zest, that one-tribal chauvinism is the very foundation of Somaliland‟s existence. Somaliland, they would have us believe, is “a one-tribe secessionist entity”. That tribe is the source and perpetrators of all the troubles that are bedeviling Somalis everywhere. That tribe hates all other Somali tribes wherever they live in. That tribe is a Somalisdiid, i.e. rejectionists of Somali nationhood. All other tribes in Somaliland are under the yoke of armed subjugation and oppression at the hands of that damnable tribe. The Wailers‟ litany of tirades is endless. Calling a Spade a Spade Feb. 2012

 

Queenie and dumpty...we can easily say you fall within the caterogy of "Wailers" as described by the author of this paper..as you have nothing substantial to say or no argument or leg to stand on.....

 

"khaaaaaaat"...is the best you can do, even though my uncle Ina Afdinle supplies your villages in bari Khat round the clock...

 

571..REMEMBER THAT...haha:cool:

[kingofkings]

The Hermet;796960 wrote:

^^^^ dum* and dumb*r :cool:

 

haha..

[Che -Guevara]

He turned incoherent rant into art-form.

[Maaddeey]

I stopped when he called Sayid's struggle a catastrophe!. Ciddaas maxaa Sayidka laga siiyaa?.

[Carafaat]

It's a long article. will read it coming weekend.

[LANDER]

Something tells me the majority of people responding haven't actually read the entire article, at least Carafaat admited as much. Take this article in its context, it's in part a response to other writers who (allegedly) routinely demonize this authors tribe as being the root of all somali problems. But it goes much further and talks about many figures in history and inconsistencies in the political realm.

 

Che -Guevara;796982 wrote:

He turned incoherent rant into art-form.

I'm pretty sure he was coherent when he described december 2006 as one of the great catastrophes experienced

by Somali people and Somali nationhood but perhaps you disagree.

 

 

 

http://somalilandpress.com/calling-a-spade-a-spade-26746

 

Che -Guevara;796982 wrote:

The Third Catastrophe: December, 24, 2006—another day of infamy in the history of the Somalis.

It was the day the unthinkable actually took place. It was the day that the great city of Mogadishu unbelievably, in point of fact nonetheless, fell into the hands of an invading foreign army. It was the day that, in the annals of nations, Somalia joined the short list of countries where a nation‟s sovereignty was effectively transferred to—and exercised from—the capital of another country as a result of a conquest.

The incongruity, the shock, the disbelief and the lingering dismay that this event inflicted on every Somali worth his/her salt were rendered all the more agonizing by the fact that the invader had not initiated and declared war on Somalia. Instead, the invader‟s takeover of the nation‟s capital and most its territory had come about at the express behest and pleasure of the “president of Somalia” at the time.

The name of that “president of Somalia” was Abdillahi Yusuf Ahmed.

 

He ended up to be a Traitor without equal anywhere and at any time. Without a doubt, his character and antics were decidedly un-Somali as well as un-Islamic. Unlike Mohamed the Mullah and Mohamed the Fascist, Abdillahi the Traitor had not even felt the need to employ initial discretion, stealth or lofty proclamations to ascend to the station that eventually allowed him to commit the crimes his “Traitor” tag so aptly denotes.

 

Abdillahi the Traitor was a man terminally crazed by love for power and crazily still, he never made any secret of that affliction. From the time in the late 1979s when he staged a failed coup d‟état against Mohamed the Fascist‟s regime to his days as the head of the grossly ineffective SSDF insurgency in 1980s; from his super-warlord tenure in Puntland following the Fascist‟s downfall to the day of his selection as „president‟, Abdillahi the Traitor left no stone unturned in his tireless quest to become the ruler of Somalia. Moreover, his obsession was mostly characterized by violence. Eventually, two years prior to the invasion, his dreams had come true when he was installed as “president of Somalia” in Nairobi, Kenya, by—oh! No need to say by whom again. Everyone knows where Somali „presidents‟ are installed these days and more importantly by whom. It is a sad saga by itself, but let us proceed with the tale of the tale.

In the inaugural address at his coronation ceremony—in Nairobi, where else?—Abdillahi the Traitor made no secret of his desire and determination to see foreign troops to be the bedrock of his “presidential” authority. Without mincing words, he begged his foreign sponsors to put their Armed Forces at his disposal!

The Traitor was so bold—some might say so foolhardy—as to appoint the number and the time. He wanted twenty thousand soldiers and he wanted them now!

 

No legitimate, semi-legitimate or even illegitimate Somali head of state before him, even those struggling under similar circumstances of powerlessness, even if adorned with grandiose titles, had ever contemplated—much less had called for—such monstrous treason against his own country.

But, of course, Abdillahi the Traitor was only joking. He was just being characteristically bombastic. He was merely exercising his penchant for hyperbole and indulging in the normally harmless fantasies that his super-warlord illusions of grandeur had inflicted to his frame of mind. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, don‟t worry, Abdillahi the Traitor was, of course, only joking.

 

This was because it was unthinkable that a Somali—much less one who, after a long quest, had at last laid claim to the highest office of his country; never mind the murky circumstances and the dubious legitimacy of his ascension to that exalted station—well, I was saying it was unthinkable that a Somali would entice foreign troops to occupy so much a square inch of his own country‟s territory. No personal ambition or no tribal interest or no national exigency, however so overwhelming and pressing, or no circumstance of any definition would justifiably drive a Somali to call for such so extraordinarily heinous and traitorous action.

 

And was there anyone who doubted that Abdillahi the Traitor, in spite of all his obviously frightening shortcomings, was a Somali indeed? Nonetheless, for the third time in less than a century, a Somali „leader‟, senseless with boundless avarice for self-aggrandizement and brimming with tribal vendetta, has managed to visit on fellow Somalis yet another catastrophe of monumental proportions.

It turned out that Abdillahi the Traitor had not been joking about shepherding foreign troops to invade and occupy his country after all. He did not flinch a moment or waste a second when the first feasible opportunity in realizing his wish presented itself.

 

 

 

Thus in mid December 2006, at Abdillahi the Traitor‟s express behest and pleasure, a foreign army matched from several fronts into Somalia. In less than two weeks, much of southern Somalia, including the nation‟s capital, fell firmly into that alien army‟s hands. Yet another gruesome „first‟! Yet another indelibly ugly stain was embossed into the lore of Somali body polity!

Utter incredulity, unbearable dismay, intolerable humiliation, excruciating disgrace and paralyzing agony could naturally only be the sorry lot of every Somali worth his/her salt as this cataclysmal turn of events unfolded before him/her.

 

Worse still and adding insult to injury, the occupying army happened to be none other than that of Somalia‟s neighbor, Ethiopia. The longtime and somewhat irrational enmity between Somalis and Ethiopians had ebbed somewhat, at least in its naked form, in later years. Nonetheless, every Somali worth his/her salt would only consider an Ethiopian army occupying any part of an independent Somali territory—that be Somalia, including the so-called Puntland, or Somaliland or Djibouti—as nothing less than a doomsday.

And indeed nearly a doomsday it was. The invasion and subsequent occupation was a doomsday—a doomsday, a time of cataclysmic destruction and death; a doomsday, which matched the two catastrophes that Mohamed the Mullah and Mohamed the Fascist had visited on Somalis in their times.

 

Nobody knows exactly how many Somalis died in this Abdillahi the Traitor-promoted aggression, but knowledgeable observers say the number was well over hundred fifty thousand. Hundreds of thousands more were wounded or maimed. Over a million yet others were forced to flee their homes or were generally displaced or dislocated by the fighting. The loss in properties and of livelihoods was incalculable.

For the second time in Somali history, cities and their civilian residents were bombarded with artillery barrages, tank and other heavy weaponry shells which had been fired from positions within these cities‟ environs. For the second time in Somali history, cities and their civilian residents were bombed and strafed by warplanes, which had taken off from these cities‟ airports.

 

The ill-effects of this invasion and occupation went well beyond the immediate physical human sufferings it had caused, abhorrent as they were. The invaders also succeeded in uprooting the only indigenously inspired and owned semblance of effective governance that had emerged in Somalia in over a decade and half.

read on he continues...

Maaddeey;797028 wrote:

I stopped when he called Sayid's struggle a catastrophe!. Ciddaas maxaa Sayidka laga siiyaa?.

Its perfectly normal to disagree with the author, few somali figures are as polarizing as Mohamed Abdullah Hassan.

However, perhaps you did yourself a disservice by not reading the rest of what he had to say on ina Abdullah Hassan. His main point was that beyond what the self-proclaimed Sayid and his movement did or didn’t do, what was more important was what legacy it had left and was learnt from them by Somalis. He references a Somali adage “Waxuu na baday, waxuu na baray baa nagaga daran

Rather than what [the suffering] he caused to us, what [the misbehavior] he taught us is more harmful”. I hope your not in the category of those who know of the ‘Sayid’ by a statue in Xamar that was propogated to entire generations as that of a Somali hero spread on many social networking sites nowadays and that is the beginning and the end of most of this generations real knowledge on the historical figure that is Mohamed Abdullah Hassan. Regardless, whether you see the man as a saint or as a villain there are a few undeniable facts in history about his movement.

 

1st-The stated goal of the movement was to remove the British, that was not achieved nor did they come close to it.

 

2nd-The majority of those who died at the hand of the ‘darwiish’ and were most oft targeted, were not the British, the Somaliland Camel Corps or any subsequent armed mercenaries recruited by the British. Rather they were unsuspecting somali nomads who were uninvolved and unarmed and who’s only crime was to go on about their daily lives as they had long before the growth of the ‘Darwiish’ movements or the arrival of the British.

[ElPunto]

He reminds me of Oody in his long windedness.

 

But You gotta search out the good with everything.

 

 

The next step is for all of us to promote and strive establishing all the elements of good governance i.e. peace, security, respect for human rights, democracy, inclusiveness, justice, rule of law and transparency in all of our countries. This should be done while we are still staying in our separate, though fraternal, statuses.

 

Then should come open borders between our countries. For the three of us that are self-governing, that should prove to be straightforward. Including the other two might turn out to be a bit trickier. At any rate, the three sovereign states should not hesitate opening up their borders to each other as soon as good governance in our respective countries has gained solid roots.

 

The benefits of open borders are endless. Open borders policy is a practical stopgap that could culminate into a full merger between states. While some form of political sovereignty would be retained, an open borders policy will mean nearly full economic and social integration in the countries that embrace it. It will facilitate free and unfettered movement of people and goods, unhindered commercial and investment opportunities, easier access to inter-state educational and health facilities and other advantages that are beneficial to all. Just about the only thing that citizens of one country cannot do in another is the right to vote in elections.

 

If this stage of political, social and economic development is reached—and with time proven to be viable—in all the Somali entities or at least in the three presently self-governing ones, then forming a political union of them as a single State is a feat that would be clearly visible on the horizon.

[Che -Guevara]

Lander...He's just another Somali praising his village and b!tching about other Somalis while passing kitchen table chatter as history-no different than people he mentioned.

[Carafaat]

Finally I had some time to read the article.

 

I have to say it does it's lenght justice for its the most comprehensive

Answer to what has been written by those who claim Somaliland is a

One-clan State and their motives. The author goes in to great lenght

To give his vieuw and intepretation of history.

 

Eventhough one can disagree with those interpretation. But bare in

Mind that history refers to the study and interpretation of past humans,

families and societies as preserved primarily through written sources.

And thus it is per definition subjective and those written intepretation together

Form historic study material, we Somali so direly need.

 

So I hope that those who disagree also take the time and make the effort to

Write an article as lenghty as possible in reply. Or face that this articles becomes one

One of the most comprehensive study material for future generations.

 

And I hope the author continues writing and maybe even bundles it in to a book.

For it would be a waste of our talents if we continue reading history would written through the eyes

Of Foreign scholars, rather then from a Somali vieuw and perspective.