FreshPrince Posted February 28, 2012 We all know Puntland calls it's soldiers "Ciidamada Darwiishta ee Puntland", however we also know that SSDF-clan were NEVER part of the Darwiish movement, not to mention, Darwiish and Seyid Muhammad Abdalle Hassan fought against Clan Chief Cusman of Bari in the Darwiish era and almost eradicated his small empire in Boosaaso. Did Darwiish also fought against Boqor Kenadiid of Mugud? If so, why? Was he supporting the Italians too? Are Reer SSDF praising the good ol' Karbash of the Darwiish? There is a name for that? Oh yeah, Stochholm Syndrome LMFAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 28, 2012 Not really, to satisfy a you must give him something, a title and that was how it was named because a portion of the soldiers are from Puntland controlled areas, such as Xudun and Badhan.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted February 28, 2012 Somalia;796340 wrote: Not really, to satisfy a you must give him something, a title and that was how it was named because a portion of the soldiers are from Puntland controlled areas, such as Xudun and Badhan.. SSC/KS is no one's !! :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted February 28, 2012 Somalia;796340 wrote: Not really, to satisfy you must give him something, a title and that was how it was named because a portion of the soldiers are from Puntland controlled areas, such as Xudun and Badhan.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince Posted February 28, 2012 Somalia;796360 wrote: Because he's from the same clan that lives there. Did you just used a video of Xudun (Before the Formation of Khaatumo State) ????? LOOOOOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 29, 2012 It makes no difference, pseudo states pop up everywhere. The reason why Kastuumo won't exist is because Puntland won't allow it, nothing more nothing less. You even went to Mudug to try and convince them but you saw what happened at the airport, one of the 3 "presidents" was send packing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince Posted February 29, 2012 Somalia;796368 wrote: It makes no difference, pseudo states pop up everywhere. The reason why Kastuumo won't exist is because Puntland won't allow it, nothing more nothing less. You even went to Mudug to try and convince them but you saw what happened at the airport, one of the 3 "presidents" was send packing. LOOOOOOOOOOOL, this kid is a COMEDIAN! Kulaha "Puntland won't allow it". Oh boy! Oh boy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted February 29, 2012 The origins of Dervish is not even a Somali word. It's origins are from Persia and Turkey it means a Sufi. The whirling Dervish. A Dervish or Darvesh[1] (from Persian درویش, Darvīsh via Turkish, ) is someone treading a Sufi Muslim ascetic path or "Tariqah", known for their extreme poverty and austerity, similar to mendicant friars in Christianity or Hindu/Buddhist/Jain sadhus. The Persian word darvīsh (درویش) is of ancient origin and descends from a Proto-Iranian word that appears in Avestan as drigu-, "needy, mendicant".The Iranian word is probably further cognate with the Vedic Sanskrit word adhrigu-, an epithet of uncertain meaning applied to several deities. The Vedic word is probably to be analysed as a-dhrigu-, that is "not dhrigu-," perhaps "not poor", i.e. "rich." The existence of this Vedic cognate suggests that the institution of the holy mendicant was as prominent among the ancient Indo-Iranian people as it has been historically in later Iran in the form of dervish brotherhoods and also in India in the form of the various schools of sannyasis. However, because the etymology of the word is not apparent from the point of view of the modern Persian language, there have been attempts to make the parts of the word interpretable in terms of contemporary words and with reference to Sufic mystical concepts. Dar in Persian means "a door", so Dervish is said to literally mean "one who opens the doors". The Persian word also gives terms for "ascetic" in some languages, as in the Urdu phrase darveshaneh tabi'at, "an unflappable or ascetic temperament". The Mawlaw'īyya / Mevlevi Order, or the Mevlevilik / Mevleviye (Persian: مولويه - Molavīyeh) is a Sufi order founded in Konya (in present-day Turkey) by the followers of Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Balkhi-Rumi, a 13th century Persian poet, Islamic jurist, and theologian. They are also known as the Whirling Dervishes due to their famous practice of whirling as a form of dhikr (remembrance of God). Dervish is a common term for an initiate of the Sufi path; the whirling is part of the formal Sama ceremony and the participants are properly known as semazen-s. ] Muhammad Ahmad (August 12, 1844 – June 22, 1885) was a religious leader of the Samaniyya order in Sudan who, on June 29, 1881, proclaimed himself as the Mahdi. In order to frame the Mahdiyya as a return to the early days of Islam, when the Muslim community, or Ummah, was unified under the guidance of the Prophet Muhammad and his immediate successors, Muhammad Ahmad drew many parallels between his manifestation as the Mahdi and the career of the Prophet. For example, he referred to himself as the Successor of the Messenger of God (Arabic: Khalifat Rasul Allah, خليفة رسول الله), and named his four closest deputies after the four successors to the Prophet Muhammad. Later, in order to distinguish his followers from adherents of other Sufi sects, he forbid the use of the word darwish (commonly known as "dervish" in English) to describe his followers, replacing it with the title Ansar, the term the Prophet Muhammad used for the people of Medina who welcomed him and his followers after their flight from Mecca. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 29, 2012 FreshPrince;796372 wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL, this kid is a COMEDIAN! Kulaha "Puntland won't allow it". Oh boy! Oh boy! Why are you using laughter as a defense mechanism, anyone reading this can see that you are angry, don't be. You are confused by nature. When you joined you were pro-Puntland, then 2 months ago you were pro-Somalidiid and now you are pro Kastuumo. :eek: lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sensei Posted February 29, 2012 FreshPrince;796332 wrote: We all know Puntland calls it's soldiers "Ciidamada Darwiishta ee Puntland", however we also know that SSDF-clan were NEVER part of the Darwiish movement, not to mention, Darwiish and Seyid Muhammad Abdalle Hassan fought against Clan Chief Cusman of Bari in the Darwiish era and almost eradicated his small empire in Boosaaso. Did Darwiish also fought against Boqor Kenadiid of Mugud? If so, why? Was he supporting the Italians too? Are Reer SSDF praising the good ol' Karbash of the Darwiish? There is a name for that? Oh yeah, Stochholm Syndrome LMFAO Sayyidka would find this not than ridiculous. Regardless of their composition, well known fact, Daraawiishta were nationalist army that intended to rid Somalia of the colonies. Any force that emulates them should be commended, not scorned. You sound bitter and beef-stricken. If you are beefing with PL, it is welcomed, nothing new; must know though, you will only harvest the troubles you sow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince Posted February 29, 2012 Somalia;796378 wrote: When you joined you were pro-Puntland, then 2 months ago you were pro-Somalidiid and now you are pro Kastuumo. :eek: lol Yes, I use to be a Puntlander. I was Pro-Puntland, until my Clan came together from ALL corners of the World, intellectuals, Elders, Women, Teachers, Scholars, Imaams, Professors, Politicians, Doctors, Youth, Soldiers, etc and decided to create their own state which won't be part of Puntland or Somaliland. That's when I respectfully laid my "Punlandernimo" down and took my "Khaatumonimo" up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted February 29, 2012 Somalia;796368 wrote: It makes no difference, pseudo states pop up everywhere. The reason why Kastuumo won't exist is because Puntland won't allow it, nothing more nothing less. You even went to Mudug to try and convince them but you saw what happened at the airport, one of the 3 "presidents" was send packing. Puntland and it's Gov, should rule no more than Nugaal and Bari regions, Galkayo will soon have AMISON troops cos of failure of Law and Order in your lawless enclave. Also because of your hideous state [PL] SOMALIA is about to lose it's 200 NM Territorial waters. Your double dealing has ruined the good name of Somalia.:mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 29, 2012 See, you just admitted it yourself, confused by profession. Clueless about where your next allegiance will lie. @Mario B, we are friends why are you mad at me :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince Posted February 29, 2012 Somalia;796394 wrote: See, you just admitted it yourself, confused by profession. Clueless about where your next allegiance will lie. Don't worry, Garoowe will be liberated from Faroole's Tyranny! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
