Dr_Osman Posted February 25, 2012 Gen.Maxamed Cali Samatar oo dacwadiisa la joojiyey February 24, 2012 // Warar Somaali Ra’iisul wasaarihii hore ee Somalia Gen: Maxamed Cali Samatar ayaa sheegay in la xiray dacwad loo heystay oo ka socotay maxkamada gobalka Virginia ee wadanka mareykanka mudo 8 sano ah. Isagoo lahadlaay wakaalada wararka ee AP waxaa uu sheegay Cali Samatar in kiiska dacwadan la joojiyay madaama aaney jirin wax cad oo lagu hayo . Maxamed Cali Samatar ayaa waxaa sanadki 2004-tii dacwad ku soo oogayay qoysas Somali ah oo ku heystay in uu kalayay dadkoodii xiigii taliskii madaxweyne Siyaad Barre. Ninkaan oo hada 76 jir ah ayaa Khamiistii tagay maxkamada Gobalka Virginia ee wadanka mareykanka waxaana loo sheegay in la joojiyay dacwadiisa iyadoo dacwad oogayashu ay maxakamadu usheegtay in ay layimadan cadeymo sax ah . Maxamed Cali Samatar ayaa usheegay AP in uu ahaa muwaadin waligiisna uu daacad ugu shaqeynayay wadankiisa ayna been yihiin eedeymahan loo heysto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted February 25, 2012 I love these blows after blows on Somaliland. Totally devastating they are losing in everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qaranki Posted February 25, 2012 A great victory for the Israeli lobbies who actively backed Mr Samantar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 25, 2012 2012 is a bad year for them. However, this is good. They went after the weakest man, it just goes to show which kind of people they are. Forgive and forget or go after everyone. Qaranki;794694 wrote: A great victory for the Israeli lobbies who actively backed Mr Samantar. Say what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qaranki Posted February 25, 2012 http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/38382-Communal-Groups-Back-Somali-in-Bid-To-Block-Israel-Lawsuits-General-Samatar-Case Had Samatar been charged then it would have opened the floodgates for similar trials against Israeli leaders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom Posted February 25, 2012 If you cheering for this killer only shows the state of your Somaliland snydroum wow. Get grib people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted February 25, 2012 That is very true but why weren't you able to secure a conviction, the supreme court already made the decision you know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hermet Posted February 25, 2012 Freedom;794700 wrote: If you cheering for this killer only shows the state of your Somaliland snydroum wow. Get grib people tell me about they happy that a mass murder who was responsible for the killing of over 70,000 innocent people walks away free it shows you why we could never share a country with these people. but i love the Neo-siadist lot...they make it so easy for us to argue for Seperation. :cool: if he walks free or not...its between him and God...what he did is between him and God all that is important is that Somaliland marches on pirates and the march continues...:cool: enjoy your temporary masterbatio**n Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted February 25, 2012 God is fair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiil Cusub Posted February 26, 2012 Dr_Osman;794686 wrote: Gen.Maxamed Cali Samatar oo dacwadiisa la joojiyey February 24, 2012 // Warar Somaali Ra’iisul wasaarihii hore ee Somalia Gen: Maxamed Cali Samatar ayaa sheegay in la xiray dacwad loo heystay oo ka socotay maxkamada gobalka Virginia ee wadanka mareykanka mudo 8 sano ah. Just sit and wait charge in view weeks and than we will see how true could this lies be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiil Cusub Posted February 26, 2012 General Mohamed Ali Samantar the former defence and Prime Minister of Somalia won’t contest war crime claims in US Ex-Somali PM won’t contest war crime claims in US By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press – 16 hours ago ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) — The former prime minister of Somalia on Thursday ended an eight-year legal battle by accepting legal liability for alleged war crimes and killings that occurred under the regime of dictator Siad Barre. But he denied wrongdoing and said he never approved any slayings. Mohamed Ali Samantar, 76, was a top official in the Barre regime serving throughout the 1980s as vice president, defense minister and prime minister, up until the months before the regime’s collapse in 1991. But for more than a decade, he has lived quietly in the Washington suburb of Fairfax, Va., surrounded by a large extended family. Samantar was sued in 2004 in U.S. District Court in Alexandria by several members of the ***** clan, who said they suffered brutal repression — including torture and mass killings — under the Barre regime. Samantar fought for years to have the case tossed out of court and was initially successful. In 2007, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema ruled that Samantar enjoyed immunity from the litigation as a former official of a foreign state. But the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the lawsuit. He tried to avoid a trial and filed for bankruptcy protection Sunday in the hope it would be postponed. But a bankruptcy judge allowed the case to go forward. On Thursday, as jury selection was about to begin, Samantar said he would accept a default judgment against him and would not contest the allegations. He made clear, though, that while he accepts legal liability he admits no wrongdoing. “I request to accept default, but that doesn’t mean I’m guilty,” he told the judge. The Center for Justice And Accountability, a California-based nonprofit legal firm that brought the case on behalf of the Somali plaintiffs, said the judgment against Samantar is the first time anywhere in the world that a court has held the Barre regime responsible for its actions. Samantar said he could no longer afford the costly litigation, and his failing health — he is on dialysis — make it harder for him to defend himself. He also told The Associated Press on Thursday that he believes the case is politically motivated and that rehashing allegations from more than 20 years ago would serve to divide Somalia at a time when unification efforts are under way. “I have a legacy in my country,” he said in an interview, speaking in Somali and interpreted for a reporter by family members. “I want to allow the reconciliation process to continue.” Samantar’s lawyer made a similar argument, and the judge said she would have dismissed the case if the State Department determined it could harm international relations. But the Obama administration said the lawsuit could proceed. Samantar told the AP he was fundamentally offended by the idea that an American court could pass judgment on a Somali dispute. “I worked 40 years for my country,” he said. “I was faithful to my country and abided by the law.” The judge began hearing evidence from victims in the case Thursday to help her decide what kind of monetary damages should be awarded, though Samantar was not present to hear that testimony. And collecting any money may be difficult because Samantar has filed for bankruptcy. The default judgment left mixed feelings for the four Somali plaintiffs — two of whom are now U.S. citizens — who brought the lawsuit. Bashe Abdi Yousuf, testified about the torture he suffered, followed by more than seven years of solitary confinement, after he and 20 others were convicted on what he said were trumped-up charges of belonging to a political party that was trying to overthrow the government. He testified that he was bound, suffered an electric shock, and beaten so badly that he could not walk for three days. But he said the torture was nothing compared to the mental suffering from seven years in solitary confinement. He said Samantar should be held accountable, even if he did not directly beat or torture him. “General Samantar was the vice president of the country. He was a commander of the highest rank … in Somalia,” said Yousuf, now a U.S. citizen living in Atlanta. “My ordeal was at the hands of the military people.” After testifying, Yousuf said that the opportunity to tell his story in court was important for him and that he felt vindicated by the default judgment. But he still wished that Samantar had been required to defend himself. “I really hoped for him to defend himself because I can’t see how he could defend himself,” Yousuf said. Another plaintiff, Aziz Deria of Bellevue, Wash., said he felt cheated by the default judgment, as Samantar could walk out of court without hearing the victims’ testimony. “I wanted him to sit there and personally feel the pain” that was suffered by the victims, said Deria, whose brother and father were killed during mass reprisals against the city of Hargeisa, an ***** stronghold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted February 26, 2012 and then we do the same:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faarah22 Posted February 26, 2012 your a big liar sxb. 70 k were never killed. now go take a hike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabrow Posted February 26, 2012 True Hero Ali samatar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofkings Posted February 26, 2012 Somalia;794702 wrote: That is very true but why weren't you able to secure a conviction, the supreme court already made the decision you know? i knew this was going to end in failure when the Israelis lobbyists entered the pic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
