Yusufaddie Posted June 1, 2003 How much of us knows about islamic Economics. how much of us knows how to pay zakaah and how much of us pay zakaah? Sh. Abdul Qadir as-Sufi is perhaps one of the most formidable fore-runners who is trying to re-establish the islamic economic system. Many times Allah mentions zakaah with salaah, iqaamatus salaah wa 'u tuzakah. What do you all know about islamic economics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted June 2, 2003 Salaamz, You know a few yrs. back, I was in London, England and I attend a few gatherings by Sh. Abdul Qadir-as sufi's followers. These brothers always talked about 'ESTABLISHING THE ISLAMIC COIN SYSTEM' of currency for trade and that it was through this way, that inshallah that a sort of 'struggle' against the nonmuslim capitalist system and society can be 'overtaken'. Well, alhamdulillah, it is the Vision of a certain Alim but a vision that I think is a Waste of Time and very unrealistic. Why would you say such a thing brother, subhanallah brother??? Well, inshallah in any tariqa/jammat/halqaa/muslim community, the aim is to cultivate Iman. To nurture Souls. Now how can you nurture souls and make Islam a REALITY for muslims when there are is no MASJID, no Madrassah and the members of that muslim group don't live within proximity of one another. How can you suddenly skip all the necessary steps that the Rasul (salallahu calihye wasalim) established to be emuluated and experience by every muslim community. These patterns are very essential. The necessary steps in an muslim community are these: ISLAMIC HIERARCHY WESTERN HIERARCHY FOR A MUSLIM FOR A STABLE SOCIETY COMMUNITY 1. TAQWA 2. IMAN 3. LISTENING & RECEIVING ALIM AD-DEEN 4. TA'A/OBEDIENCE 5. IMAMAT 6. JAMMAT/TARIQA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted June 2, 2003 Salaamz, ISLAMIC HIERARCHY FOR BUILDING A COMMUNITY 1. TAQWA (FEAR AND CONSCIOUSNESS OF ALLAH) 2. IMAN=FAITH 3. LISTENING AND RECEIVING ALIM AD DEEN 4. OBEDIENCE 5. IMAMAT 6. JAMAT MODERN SOCIETY'S HIERARCHY 1. SPIRITUAL 2. PSYCHOLOGY 3. MORALITY AND ETHICS 4. CULTURE 5. POLITICAL STABILITY 6. ECONOMIC POWER 7. MILITARY POWER You can't jump the gun and concentrate on establishing Economic power without doing things in the proper order. You can't concentrate on Economics, when your children and other members of the community and their children are going to a public school or some other madrassah that is being taught by people that don't share the same Vision with you. I have been to a few gatherings and read some of the works of AbdulQadir as-sufi and his followers. There was a substantial effort to 'establish the Islamic Dinar System'. But if this is the case, where is the muslim community. I didn't see them living close to one another and interacting with each other in the daily work lives, praying salat together on a daily basis etc. Inshallah, Allah is concerned with our LEVEL OF IMAN, and what nurtures this best is a consistant interaction btwn the Shiekh and his followers with emphasis on QURAN,SUNNAH, SHARIAH AND TARIQA. All other things being Secondary and of no use if the members of a muslim group can not connect everything to the ISLAMIC SYLLABUS. The aim is always to cultivate TAQWA AND IMAN. So Islamic Economics can come into play when all other criterias are fullfilled. In anycase, to add a spin on this issue, what are your thoughts on 'FUNDRAISING' activities such as dinners etc. Is that a modern concept or inline with the traditional ideas of Zakat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yusufaddie Posted June 3, 2003 well in lieu of the islamic dinar and dirham how do you pay zakaah. and also are you saying that there are no muslim communities in the world? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
